Ammo sales and future survival (another potential political thread)

Agreed. There needs to be a greater understanding of firearms and their usefulness and necessity to society when used responsibly. Any time you can show someone this you are doing them and everyone else a great service!
 
Trace Rinaldi said:
Take your old gun magazines and leave them in waiting rooms like at Tire stores, and repair shops, even doctors offices
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My brain went the wrong direction at first--I thought, what will they do with a Glock magazine? If they don't have the gun, they don't need the magazine. :)

then I thought, "Oh, paper ones."
 
Trace Rinaldi said:
One thing we CAN do is create new gun owners.. Take a non shooting friend shooting. Educate them about our rights, and how fragile they are at this point. Take your old gun magazines and leave them in waiting rooms like at Tire stores, and repair shops, even doctors offices, especially the NRA magazines.. This may seem trivial but I guarantee the men will look at them instead of the standard stuff you find.. It may spark an interest, and maybe even educate them a bit on the truth about gun control.
Just think if every gun owner went out and made even ONE more gun owner that will help fight anti-gun BS.. I've done this since I was 18, and I've helped make several new gun owners since that before could care less about guns. Just my .02
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Great Idea man, I’ve got a load of magazines in my shop anything to further the cause…
 
Watch out for gun registration.

I was living in Virginia when Washington, DC passed the gun ban - what 30 years ago? They required registration first, then 6 months later they banned private ownership of firearms. As Walter Fontleroy (sp?) said, "we never said we wouldn't ban them."

--Bladester
 
okbohn said:
My brain went the wrong direction at first--I thought, what will they do with a Glock magazine? If they don't have the gun, they don't need the magazine. :)

then I thought, "Oh, paper ones."
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LOL... Man I would really be disheartened if I went into a Tire Pro's and saw a bunch of old 1911 magazines laying by the coffee machine and PRINTED magazines..HAHA!!;)


Guys there are things we CAN do.. You can get "virul" about it to borrow from the new school of activist's.. Wear your NRA, and gun related hats and shirts, show people NRA members arent just a bunch of hicks and rednecks.
Strategically placed bumper stickers and signs (NOT necesarilly on your vehicle if your afraid of calling attention to you being armed) place old magazines like I mentioned, hell they would do alot more for us than being piled up on the back of the toilet.. Educate your kids, make sure they can argue the facts with thier friends or parents of friends, or teachers. Offer to teach thier friends gun safety (with parents permission) etc..

Also GET educated yourself.. know the facts and statistics, be able to offer a sober SOLID argument if the need arises. A great book that helped me out years ago with this is "Guns Crime and Freedom" by Wayne LaPierre. He also has great idea's about how to fight back against the liberal media..
CALL the damn radio stations when they have some idiot spouting off about gun control.. I've been on KFI in Los Angeles which has THOUSANDS of listeners no less than 10 times arguing the facts on gun control anytime it comes up.. If you have a good grasp of the subject and dont sound like a yahoo its fairly easy to get onto talk radio shows.. Get out there on the net and do what you can, its a great way to get your thoughts out there, and even if it seems futile you are always planting seeds of doubt in the anti's and seeds of knowledge to those that are just oblivious..

These are a few things I have done over the years, just think if we had force multiplication and we ALL started doing things like this? It could change the outlook for years to come possibly..

FAILING that, Im with Jeff and others... Keep your head down, your eyes open, and your weapons clean.. That Liberty tree may be needing some irrigation in the not too distant future.:mad:
 
gottahaveit27 said:
...post 176. And the point is he didn't "cover it". He made valid points but never responded to my point that what you posted from the NRA is almost entirely made up. Guyon said nothing to prove otherwise.
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The information on that card is hardly made up but it's not totally truth either.

Those are all things that Obama has voted yes to in his tenure. They are picked and chosen from numerous different bills.

He hasn't ever porposed All of those things at the same time, and we don't know what other measures were on those bills.

We can't assume that they were all burried on the back end of a loaded bill with something important at the top, but I bet some were.

He is not your friend if you are a gun owner, this is for sure, but the NRA is trying to paint him as the anti-christ.
 
Man, thats a great post Trace. Well said!

Imagine what we could do. It would take numbers, but it could be done.

I think its an educational thing. People just need to be educated on the subject.
 
Right on Trace...i think people need reeducation on the subject. for years the liberal anti gun media has been pumping this into the brains on everyone. a mind is like a computer no matter how intelligent the person, the reasoning and decisions that person comes to can only be as good as the information being put in. Trace is right we all need to be as active as possible about this A.S.A.P.
 
SeanGCO said:
Right on Trace...i think people need reeducation on the subject. for years the liberal anti gun media has been pumping this into the brains on everyone. a mind is like a computer no matter how intelligent the person, the reasoning and decisions that person comes to can only be as good as the information being put in. Trace is right we all need to be as active as possible about this A.S.A.P.
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Absolutely Sean! The time is NOW to get active, not once it starts at which point we are reactive. Gun control has been a non-starter for a few years now, and I fear that many gun owners have become comfortable especially in light of the recent Supreme Court ruling. The more we do now, the better off we are. The more LAW ABIDING gun owners we have the better off we are.
Get out there and invite people to go shooting, offer to help them learn gun safety, and by ALL means educate them on what we face.
WE understand how important the second amendmant is we need EVERYONE to understand this.:thumbup:

BTW thanks guys, I'm not trying to preach I just know we all feel strongly about this and it can be easy to give up hope.. This is NOT the time to give up. We can change opinions, it can happen. One person at a time.
 
It really does work. My wife was a anti-gun person to the max when we met 7 years ago. With regular shooting sessions, and some education and training she has no problems with guns anymore. She was just never proactivly educated on them. She now enjoys them, and doesnt mind seein me carry a cocked and locked 1911, which scared the crap out of her the first time she saw it. She said OMG your gun is cocked!!!!

She is even a NRA member now.:thumbup:
 
I don't really understand why people say they are soo afraid yet all they are buying are only guns and ammo. Honestly how many people on here that are stock piling guns and ammo also have things like emergency food supplies, generators, batteries, flashlights and general natural disaster prep things? If you only have guns and ammo it's no wonder people want gun control. Because then you are acting like a scared crazy person clinging to guns and not preparing for the more likely things you need. Or do you just plain to use your guns to steal others food water and such. I have guns ammo food water a gas generator also some solar panals batteries a BOB packed and loaded if i need to leave in truck or on foot in a hurry.

Also the leaving NRA things is not really the best idea either. Most people who are anti guns see the NRA as a propaganda pushing lobbiest. The NRA is known for giving partial truths misinformation. They really are not a totally accurate source of info. I do not support gun control but i also do not support the NRA. I have a question for everyone that is is against gun control what are your thoughts on the patriot act? What are your thoughts an Cali's ban on gay marriage?

If you are anti gun control do you support taking away someones pursuit of happiness by banning gay marriage? I do not support anything that limits the rights of US citizens. It frustrates me how both Dems and Repubs both want to limit our rights just in different ways yet one is considered ok if your a Dem the other is ok if your a Repub.

I think we do need to educate the general public on guns but not going the NRA route. You have to look at it from someone who thinks guns are bad point of view they will not trust anything written by the NRA. I would personally try to use skeet shooting mags or something like that. it will not scare people off by the thought of killing living things.
 
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No one said all we are buying is guns and ammo. most of us here are very prepared. from what i can discern most of the people are survivalists. now to what degree of survivalism I do not know. I know that for myself i am also preparing for disasters of all types, and I am working on a BOB of my own which i probably will add to the contest soon if I can get finish it on time.

What we are saying is that the chances of Firearms and Ammunition is likely to skyrocket in price or the purchase of some of them will be prohibited.Thus it is behoove those who are gun enthusiasts to purchase the guns and ammo while the prices are affordable and available. I myself have bought the Glock 23 I've wanted for some time and add ammo to my collection for it daily. I do this not as my only preparation but as an addition to it, and to satisfy my needs for personal protection. I will soon purchase an AR-15 (still debating on that one). I am sure many others on here as well as my self have closets full of batteries, a generator, canned food, cloths, flashlights and all the necessary items for survival for me and for my family; weather it be a local meatorite strike or complete societal break down.

The NRA may be a propaganda lobbiest, but they are the largest organization that is doing something to protect our second amendment rights. That being said can the obverse not be true, is the liberal anti gun media not propaganda lobbiest machine in itself. They also portray half truths and misinformation to meet their own agenda of gun control. The patriot act is an absolute infringement of our rights and was made law on the pretense of our own safety. It is very similar to Germanys own Enabling Act.

The Gay marriage matter is up to the states and California voted against it. Personally I don't think government should be able to legislate morality, and I think it does infringe upon the homosexuals right to persuit of happiness. That is a deeply political issue and has serious ramifications on both sides.

All in all everyone needs to be more educated on all issues not just gun control, myself included, I agree with you Ken we should look at it through their eyes but they should look at it through ours as well. I personally don't trust many unfounded claims the anti gun people say.

P.S. ive got 250 rounds through my glock and I LOVE IT.
 
SeanGCO said:
What we are saying is that the chances of Firearms and Ammunition is likely to skyrocket in price or the purchase of some of them will be prohibited.Thus it is behoove those who are gun enthusiasts to purchase the guns and ammo while the prices are affordable and available. .
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And that was my main reason for adding ammo.

But again, who can have too much ammo?
 
KenM K said:
I don't really understand why people say they are soo afraid yet all they are buying are only guns and ammo. Honestly how many people on here that are stock piling guns and ammo also have things like emergency food supplies, generators, batteries, flashlights and general natural disaster prep things? If you only have guns and ammo it's no wonder people want gun control. Because then you are acting like a scared crazy person clinging to guns and not preparing for the more likely things you need. Or do you just plain to use your guns to steal others food water and such. I have guns ammo food water a gas generator also some solar panals batteries a BOB packed and loaded if i need to leave in truck or on foot in a hurry.

Also the leaving NRA things is not really the best idea either. Most people who are anti guns see the NRA as a propaganda pushing lobbiest. The NRA is known for giving partial truths misinformation. They really are not a totally accurate source of info. I do not support gun control but i also do not support the NRA. I have a question for everyone that is is against gun control what are your thoughts on the patriot act? What are your thoughts an Cali's ban on gay marriage?

If you are anti gun control do you support taking away someones pursuit of happiness by banning gay marriage? I do not support anything that limits the rights of US citizens. It frustrates me how both Dems and Repubs both want to limit our rights just in different ways yet one is considered ok if your a Dem the other is ok if your a Repub.

I think we do need to educate the general public on guns but not going the NRA route. You have to look at it from someone who thinks guns are bad point of view they will not trust anything written by the NRA. I would personally try to use skeet shooting mags or something like that. it will not scare people off by the thought of killing living things.
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I am well stocked in all aspects of gear and supplies, and im sure most others are too.:thumbup:

NRA is not perfect, but its all we got.

As far as the patriot act, and gay marrage etc.... That is bordering politics, and thats not why Jeff started this thread.
 
j williams said:
I am well stocked in all aspects of gear and supplies, and im sure most others are too.:thumbup:

NRA is not perfect, but its all we got.

As far as the patriot act, and gay marrage etc.... That is bordering politics, and thats not why Jeff started this thread.
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The NRA scares a lot of people off and are seen as too extreme by the uneducated anti gun public. You will not be able to educate these people with NRA articles or anything like that. To fix the problem you need to introduce people to guns in the least threatening manner possible. And everyone running and buying guns and ammo scares a good portion of the country. To educate people on firearms you need to take things slowly. More competetive shooting needs to be advertised and promoted. Don't try to use scare tactics as they often backfire.
 
KenM K said:
The NRA scares a lot of people off and are seen as too extreme by the uneducated anti gun public. You will not be able to educate these people with NRA articles or anything like that. To fix the problem you need to introduce people to guns in the least threatening manner possible. And everyone running and buying guns and ammo scares a good portion of the country. To educate people on firearms you need to take things slowly. More competetive shooting needs to be advertised and promoted. Don't try to use scare tactics as they often backfire.
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PS also anyone that is thinking of getting an AR-15 shouldn't look past a Sig 556 yes it's not an AR but it is a similar styled rife that i personally prefer to an AR.
 
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