An ambitious folder.

Kaizen1 said:
There is a difference between the a Hinderer lock bar stabilizer and and the average over-travel stop. Yes, both prevent the lock bar from getting over-extended when unlocking the knife, but the Hinderer LBS also fills in the gap in the cut out between the lock bar and the frame. Rick found that when you grip on a frame lock hard, the lock bar will move toward the frame in that cut out space, increasing the chance for failure of the knife. The LBS prevents any movement in that area as well.
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That might be the case but the one on my Kershaw OD-1 does both and there is no mention of Hinderer. It is a Lee Williams design. If there isn't a patent then it shouldn't be stepping on anyone's toes. I don't know if there is one or not but it seems like Kershaw would make some mention of it on the knife.
 
Biginboca said:
Well let's hope no one tells Chris Reeve about your theory. All the Umnumzaan's will have to be recalled...:rolleyes:
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Don't want to argue with the great one (I am fishing for an umnum too) but I'm pretty sure it's not my theory but a common theory. I have been wondering about the ceramic ball and how does it works.

I'm pretty sure I head that the ball is to reduce wear. Reducing wear therefore increasing the life of the folder. I previously thought that the ball rolls.

Molletta, have you mentioned this to other forums as well? Perhaps the can be more people from forums like edcforums for example.

Come on guys, at this rate it gonna be ages before we get the necessary numbers...
 
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AFAIK it should be here in January more or less
I'm asking Mik Molletta if I can be a bridge between MCKF and EDCF for this one, if yes you'll se my post over there too
Maxx
 
FlaMtnBkr said:
That might be the case but the one on my Kershaw OD-1 does both and there is no mention of Hinderer. It is a Lee Williams design. If there isn't a patent then it shouldn't be stepping on anyone's toes. I don't know if there is one or not but it seems like Kershaw would make some mention of it on the knife.
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Actually it is used on the OD-1 with permission from Rick. It is a Hinderer lock bar stabilizer. There is definitely a patent on the Hinderer LBS. If you're right about the function of the Rotoblock, then I agree that it still shouldn't be an issue. I would just want to make sure because the OP hasn't explained what the Rotoblock is.
 
Kaizen1 said:
Actually it is used on the OD-1 with permission from Rick. It is a Hinderer lock bar stabilizer. There is definitely a patent on the Hinderer LBS. If you're right about the function of the Rotoblock, then I agree that it still shouldn't be an issue. I would just want to make sure because the OP hasn't explained what the Rotoblock is.
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That's strange. I looked all over and didn't find any mention of Rick. Heck, the Kershaw webpage doesn't even mention the stabilizer being part of the knife. I guess since he is pursuing a patent is why he hasn't told us too much about it. I would imagine he won't get his patent if it is the same thing as the Hinderer stabilizer. The fact that it looks like it rotates definitely seems to point towards another function.
 
FlaMtnBkr said:
That's strange. I looked all over and didn't find any mention of Rick. Heck, the Kershaw webpage doesn't even mention the stabilizer being part of the knife. I guess since he is pursuing a patent is why he hasn't told us too much about it. I would imagine he won't get his patent if it is the same thing as the Hinderer stabilizer. The fact that it looks like it rotates definitely seems to point towards another function.
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Well, I never verified it. I was told that it was in this thread.

I really have no clue how they know it.

I'm sure they're being ethical about the rotoblock and the speculation about it seems reasonable.
 
once again lion steel prove they can make knives as well as anyone else on the market
 
If you don't get the 150 pre orders you're needing what will happen ?
Will the knife be "binned", side lined untill a later date or will it still go into production, be it with a higher cost ?

I'm probably up for more than one but would like a bit of info on what to expect regarding the "ifs and buts".

:):thumbup:
 
molletta said:
I can not explain how it works. I'm patenting it whit firm that will product knife.

THe blade is the one in picture. The final one have flat grind. The stees is the Sleipner of Bohler, a very good tool steel.

1 - molletta
2 - Cotherion
3 - FlaMtnBkr
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1 - molletta
2 - Cotherion
3 - FlaMtnBkr
4 - Josh K

Looks interesting. Move the clip and I'd be all over it. That's a huge folder to be sinking into your pocket, especially with that low rider setup.
 
Very cool, very unique looking knife. It's amazing that's carved out of a titanium block!

It almost has a steampunk look to it, with the screw-down stop.
 
For those that are interested.
If you can , put yourself in list.

1 - molletta
2 - Cotherion
3 - FlaMtnBkr
4 - Josh K
5 - ArchAngel

The firm that will product this knife will be Lionsteel.
This firm have a very good experience. HAve pruduced knives for famous american brand and make knives for others group buy/group production (MCKF, Nexus).

Other sistem block usualy provide that liner don't go over the scale when opened.
The rotoblock have also another function.

The carry clip can be moved to other size. The one on proto is not final.

The price is calculated for a bigger production than 150.
Preorders are 150. For those the price is 200 euro. Lionsteel consider this group buy as a big store who make a big orger.
The regular price in the store will be around 300 euro.

Sorry for my bad english.
 
Just saw this now. You Italian folk really design very nice things like the Lambourghini, Beretta and pizza! :thumbup: Bellisima Signore Moletta!

If I'm not mistaken you are the same fellow for the Nexus knives? Awesome design there too!
 
Kaizen1 said:
I'm interested in getting in on this but I have a few question before committing to the list:
In what way is this different from a Hinderer lock bar stabilizer? I've read some of the guesses and if they're right, this wouldn't step on Rick's toes and I'd be okay with buying it.
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The two systems are different.
The purpose of Rotoblock is not stabilizer the lock by filling the gap between the lock bar and the frame.
Its purpose is fixing the lock bar. The folding knife will become a fix blade.
 
untamed said:
Just saw this now. You Italian folk really design very nice things like the Lambourghini, Beretta and pizza! :thumbup: Bellisima Signore Moletta!

If I'm not mistaken you are the same fellow for the Nexus knives? Awesome design there too!
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and Ducati :D
 
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