An honest question.

Boats said:
Not to presume to speak for PR, but the first thing the RC-3's handle needs is more of it.:D
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that's it. And it's not really even the length of the handle, it's the rounding of the boat tail that makes it feel like it's going to pop out of my hand like a bar of soap every time I try to hold it securely. Minor adjustments would go a long way.
 
j williams said:
Glocks are great. My goto is a 19. :thumbup:


:thumbup: Well said Jeff.

You build survivors. Youve been doin it many years. Im curious on what your thoughts are about skillset vs. tool? Also, if you had to choose one skill that trumps all in a survival situation, besides mental ability to keep a cool head, what would that be? Signaling? Nav? Blade ability?
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I think skillset trumps the tool everytime. At least from my experience. I realize you didn't want to bring mindset into the equation but I do think it's important to note that mindset probably covers 80 percent of being a survivor while tools and skills make up the other 20.
 
R.A.T. said:
I think skillset trumps the tool everytime. At least from my experience. I realize you didn't want to bring mindset into the equation but I do think it's important to note that mindset probably covers 80 percent of being a survivor while tools and skills make up the other 20.
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:thumbup::thumbup:
 
I personally looked at ESEE knives and read about them on this forum and the great products that they make and that including the price made me look into them but the warranty is what made me pull the trigger because I like knowing they believe in their product enough to stand behind it no matter what, any one who will offer a no questions asked warranty on something that gets abused as much as a knife must make a great product. So to answer the question I may have still purchased because of the reasonable prices compared to similar knives but I would have looked into alot of other knives first, so I am glad that they have the warranty that they do because it saved me from making a mistake and passing on a great company.
 
rockspyder said:
Notice it's mod'd. Nice work, too.

I'll still stick with my ESEE's, after trying both brands. I think I've honestly got more BRK's. But I use ESEE more.
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Missed your post. :o

Thanks man. This was literally the first time Ive put steel to a grinder. I was gonna have my buddy Bindlestitch(Turley Knives) grind it off for me, but I finally just nutted up and did it myself with my grinder. It took a bit of courage as I spent so much on the knife, and im by no means a rich, or even well off guy. I wade through puke, bood, and whining people on the ambulance for a meager salary so when I spend some coin on something, it really means something to me. :D

I just took my time, and kept the blade cool as I worked. then I finished it up by hand with files and hand sanding.
 
Thanks for the work that you do, your service. And I hope I never came across as denigrating the Bravo. It is a good knife. I have personal issues with the thickness of the blade compared to length and width. But it is a beautiful knife, one of the best looking that BRK makes, and probably the best overall design for general work, IMO. I just like thinner.

Similar to how so many have said they would like a longer handle on the ESEE-3 and ESEE-4. I'm on the opposite side of that one, too. I like to have a handle that I can bring my hand toward the butt and reinforce it with my palm. The -3 and -4 lend themselves well to this, whereas a longer grip doesn't. Probably comes from working a lot with Nordic-style knives, and other guardless knives. And when I need more handle, the choil fits my index finger well. The ESEE-3MIL makes the palm reinforcement a little... tricky, but not undoable. You don't want to be doing full power stabs into wood or anything, but for the typical penetration tasks I do, it works.

As I've said before, the ESEE knives work extremely well for me for general duty, presenting a tremendous return on investment. That is what has me buying them. Not warranty.
 
No thanks nessisary bro. Its my job, and what im good at. I would suck at most other jobs....Not your 9-5 cubicle type. Id go crazy. lol...

Yeah, I can see what your sayin about the thickness. Not for everyone. You make a good point about the handle length of the ESEEs.

I agree. Warranty is just icing on the cake. I worry more about losing a knife then breaking it!!
 
i dont think it would matter if there was any warranty at all , as i cant imagine any of my esee knives ever failing on me. And if i ever did break one it would have to be such abuse id feel like an ass returning it!! great products with the best warranty you will never have to use!!! :D
 
Actually, Im new to ESEE....as an Izula owner, but not so as a viewer of RAT cutlery. I did check out the Rat Izula a good while back (and wanted it bad) but it was a bit too expensive at that point. Now, when I have the bones the HEST will be on the way. Back to topic, warranty is great, but doesnt influence my purchase. Still doing an InHESTigation to see if the gal will or wont be Junglas.
 
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I was drawn to esee for the design and function of the knives in the 1st place, the warranty and the support from the company are just the icing on the cake.
 
militant x said:
Who would buy any product because of the warranty?
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Seems like every time I read about ESEE knives, the warranty is the first (or second) thing mentioned. So it seems to be a main criteria for buying the knife for MANY.

I've often thought, if the product is so good, why worry about a warranty?
Myself, I don't worry about it, since I've voided the warranty by modding the handles, edge grinds, etc. on every ESEE I've owned.

So in short, after owning the Izula, and RC 3,4,and 5....I would say I would still buy the knives even if they had no warranty at all.
 
Frankly, the guarantee would mean a lot of trouble and being without a knife for me, if it was necessary.

Being in Europe sending knives back and forth to the US would be a real PITA. So my first question wasn't about the guarantee, but about performance -

do users that have an ESEE, and use theirs in a way I intend to use mine think it performs well and is durable enough?

As they were, the guarantee was the icing.

Sure, I'd also like some knives of other makers, but frankly for me they don't deliver significantly more bang for the amount they cost more. That might be different for other people.

For US citizens of course it is easier to return a knife, and to me that only means that ESEE stand behind their product, they are sure it's not going to fail on you, and the guarantee is one way of communicating that.
 
Gaurdian_A1 said:
His opinion of the bravo 1 compared to an ESEE was that instead of having an outstanding warranty like ESEE why not just make an outstanding knife like the Bravo-1.
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I don't believe that BT meant to that RC-5 isn't an outstanding knife. IMO, he was saying that generally the features of a product are more important to him than terms and condition of the product's warranty. In this case, he prefers the weight of the Bravo 1 to the weight of the RC-5 and doesn't expect either knife to break, so the warranty is not the deciding factor.
 
If ESEE, Busse, Swamp Rat, Scrap Yard or Ferhman knives didn't have there outstanding warranties I wouldn't buy their products.

There are too many great steels out on the market. Too many wonderful knives that will most likely NEVER break.

So even though ESEE makes a great product either way. The Warranty is the selling point.
 
IMO if the warranty is your main reason for buying something, whether you realize it or not, you are saying you expect that product to fail and want to be assured of compensation, either by replacement or refund. Why buy something you can't trust. That doesn't make sense to me.

As far as other knives and others steels go; it's all opinion. There ARE many quality knives on the market and you have to use your own criteria to determine which is best for you. I just don't believe a warranty should be a primary factor.
 
I watched a bunch of the bluntruth4u videos the other night. For the most part all he had to say was good stuff about the ESEE's. He mentioned a few features that were not to his personal liking.... but made it clear that was just his personal preference.

His review of the IZULA was stellar.... if I did not already have one, I would have ordered one on the spot. ;)

As far as the warranty / knife comment mentioned in the OP.... I can' explain that because it was not reflected in anything else I heard him say about any ESEE.
 
ESEE makes an outstanding blade for the buck,you even get a decent sheath,then you get a great warranty on top of that.What's not to love.
 
militant x said:
IMO if the warranty is your main reason for buying something, whether you realize it or not, you are saying you expect that product to fail and want to be assured of compensation, either by replacement or refund. Why buy something you can't trust. That doesn't make sense to me.

As far as other knives and others steels go; it's all opinion. There ARE many quality knives on the market and you have to use your own criteria to determine which is best for you. I just don't believe a warranty should be a primary factor.
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I thought that if a knife was so good it wouldn't fail the maker would warranty it so.
 
I'm new to ESEE so i may have a different perspective.

I only have an Izula that i recently purchased, it is of outstanding quality. Knowing this, i don't think i would hesitate to buy another ESEE regardless of the warranty. Having said that, the warranty did play a big part in getting me to make that initial purchase.

If i am not familiar with a company and they have a warranty like ESEE's, i am much more likely to make that initial purchase. Add to that the amazing customer service i have read so much about, and the forum presence of the company, and it was an easy decision.

So to sum it up: now it wouldn't' matter to me, but it got me in the door, and i've got at least a DPx H•E•S•T and a Junglas on my short list now. Therefore i think the warranty is very important, i may never have been aware of the brand if it wasn't for their outstanding reputation for customer service and their willingness to stand behind their product.

-- Adam
 
I look at it this way.... ESEE warrantying their knives is like someone telling you the sun is going to rise in the morning. The only reports I've ever seen of them breaking, someone was being stupid. It's nice that it's there... but knowing I'm not going to need it...it's not a big selling point. Selling point is a good design, and a solid knife.
 
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