And, Cold Steel wins....... as usual

DocJD said:
I've still yet to hear any factual rebuttal of Cold Steel's tests . Lots of crying and "we don't care " and " it doesn't matter" , but zero proof or evidence that the tests are not real and true . All this bashing is very weak . :) Cold Steel wins again ! :cool::thumbsup::thumbsup:
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What bashing? There are only a few people that are questioning the test, most on this thread seem to agree that A. The Triad is the strongest lock on the market and B. That's not a major factor in their purchasing. Those are two entirely separate issues. I think the bashing you're talking about is mostly in your head.
 
If ultimate lock strength is your goal or a must have then look not further than Cold Steel, Tri-ad is pretty awesome. If I needed a sub $25 knife to thrash on then a Pro Lite is where I'd turn, the Code 4 is attractive and a $75 is pretty hard to beat, and the Finwolf is a pocket laser. There's a lot in the Cold Steel line up to like even when they were AUS 8 and now that they're CTS-XHP it makes them even better if that means they're winning then I guess they are.
 
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Oh, and just because I'm not sure I've made it clear in this thread, I like Cold Steel knives more often than not. They have plenty of solid, practical work knives with good cutting geometry and ergonomics that offer an excellent value for what you get. It's just that the strength of the Triad Lock is generally more a nice bonus than an integral reason for me to buy one of their knives.
 
The Mini AK and the Lawman are good, non theatrical EDCs with good steels (XHP now S35VN)...aside from that it get's a bit silly quickly.

On a side note, BHQ did a lock strength test recently where a Chinese made Spyderco (Tenacious) won out failing only after 380lbs!
 
John_0917 said:
The Mini AK and the Lawman are good, non theatrical EDCs with good steels (XHP now S35VN)...aside from that it get's a bit silly quickly.

On a side note, BHQ did a lock strength test recently where a Chinese made Spyderco (Tenacious) won out failing only after 380lbs!
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Tuff Lite, Ultimate Hunter, Broken Skull, Voyager series, Recon 1, Master Hunter, SRK, Lucky and Lucky One, Golden Eye, Bird and Trout, Grik, Finn Wolf, Pro Lite, Working Man and there are plenty of others. Cold Steel makes some silly knives, no doubt, but (other than absurd naming conventions) they have a solid catalog of knives that are, at the core, no frills, practical blades with plenty of applications and potential. Their marketing is silly and many of their niche products are very silly, but I doubt any of us are going to argue that the knives I've named are silly. Maybe not the best available, maybe not to our tastes, but I don't think any of those are particularly Mall Ninja or impractical.
 
If your product has a distinct feature or advantage, you advertise it.

Make a sugar-based candy? Advertise that it is fat free.
Does your car have 5/5 crash test ratings? Advertise and compare to your competition.

It’s just marketing. To some, it will convey a relevant and convincing argument. To others, it will be a waste of time to watch.

I don’t really see a harm in it, noting that, as many have mentioned, the hanging weight and batoning capacity of a folding knife is often just not a concern to the user. I wouldn’t expect my various Ti framelocks to support the weight my Recon 1 likely can, but I will almost certainly never be bothered by this notion.
 
DocJD said:
I've still yet to hear any factual rebuttal of Cold Steel's tests . Lots of crying and "we don't care " and " it doesn't matter" , but zero proof or evidence that the tests are not real and true . All this bashing is very weak . :) Cold Steel wins again ! :cool::thumbsup::thumbsup:
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Given your name, I'm going to assume you're either a doctor, or an attorney (or perhaps one of the rare creatures with dual degrees).
Either way, i would expect you to have better critical thinking skills than to rant like a slobbering teenager.

Stop playing Counterstrike for a moment and come take a stroll through the world of logic with me.

Your position is that if nobody rebuts CS, then CS wins. Alternatively, it could be phrased that in order for CS to lose, someone has to rebut them.

Frankly, the basis for your position is a load of horse pucky.

It's like saying that "The town nut job stands at the I95 overpass and waves his penis at traffic, but because people don't pull off the highway to tell him he's wrong, he's totally right to do so."

The fact that passers-by do not take the time to address the idiot, and instead laugh at him and go about their lives, should not be taken to give credence to his actions.

A rebuttal is not part and parcel of debunking/discrediting a position when that position is so preposterous on its face that it fails on its own.


You get what I'm saying?
 
newdebate said:
Shifting production out of Japan could make the older San Mai sought after collector pieces; winning!
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The old voyagers have certainly shot up in value. I don't see why the san mai stuff wouldn't do the same.
 
DocJD said:
I've still yet to hear any factual rebuttal of Cold Steel's tests . Lots of crying and "we don't care " and " it doesn't matter" , but zero proof or evidence that the tests are not real and true . All this bashing is very weak . :) Cold Steel wins again ! :cool::thumbsup::thumbsup:
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The tests don't matter for most users. If I'm doing what they do in those tests I've got the wrong tool or it is the zombie apocalypse.

You can't win if no one else is playing.
 
inkynate said:
My thoughts can be summed up as "Meh."
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Dullknivescut said:
would rather have a full tang fixed blade if I’m looking for something like these tests are going for.
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....pretty much these. I don't at all dislike all CS products and have owned a few since the 80s. That said LT is a whack job (that's personal from his time down here) and the marketing plays to the lowest IQ in the room. If CS were the only knife brand available most would be served well by one of their products, that does not mean anyone needs to fawn over them nor despise anyone who does not.
 
Andy the Aussie said:
....pretty much these. I don't at all dislike all CS products and have owned a few since the 80s. That said LT is a whack job (that's personal from his time down here) and the marketing plays to the lowest IQ in the room. If CS were the only knife brand available most would be served well by one of their products, that does not mean anyone needs to fawn over them nor despise anyone who does not.
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Not to hit a sensitive spot, but does a Busse fan have tons of room to criticize Cold Steel's marketing? ;)
 
Insipid Moniker said:
Not to hit a sensitive spot, but does a Busse fan have tons of room to criticize Cold Steel's marketing? ;)
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... yes and no... Jerry certainly has his way as well. I have yet to see him hacking up boots of meat. He does of course let you know you can chop up a cinder block if you need. It's been a long time since he has needed to run print or other media adds to sell his knives ;)
 
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