And, Cold Steel wins....... as usual

DocJD said:
And those that say they don't care but still bother to post a response , are not very believable .
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I don't care, and I'm still bothering to post a response. Color me "unbelievable". :p

If I'm ever attacked by a motorcycle boot full of pork chops, however, I hope I'm packing a Cold Steel Grosse Messer.
 
A Benchmade Adamas is all I need. I've abused and batoned the hell out of mine. Next to Zero Tolerance frame locks, the axis lock is one of the strongest I've ever used.
Scott
 
Also I hate the statement "cold steel wins", that's like saying "Peterbilt wins" yeah sure, at towing if you compare it to a 911 GT3 , but on a track, the 911 is gonna win.
 
b00n said:
Also I hate the statement "cold steel wins", that's like saying "Peterbilt wins" yeah sure, at towing if you compare it to a 911 GT3 , but on a track, the 911 is gonna win.
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Sorry!!! The thread title is referring to the outcome of their YouTube videos not me being a diehard Cold Steel fan.
 
Pointy81 said:
Sorry!!! The thread title is referring to the outcome of their YouTube videos not me being a diehard Cold Steel fan.
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Don't take it personally it was more directed at the CS statements in general that "we have the strongest lock ergo the best knife mentality"
 
All goofy gimmicks aside, I do like that they put videos of their knives out there...even if the tests seem mall ninja-ish. I don’t own any cold steel blades currently but I’m not opposed to them either. Looks like some of their offerings are pretty tough from the videos.
 
It's a lot like the Ford VS Chevy truck commercials. "We've got more horsepower and payload than them, so we are automatically better!" Of course they would never mention what the other does better, i.e. fuel economy or crash test ratings. They play to their strengths and hope that's enough for the consumer to pick them. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.
As for me, I don't want or need the strongest lock. Especially when I think the knives they come on are ugly.
 
The videos don't mean anything to me. The are interesting though.

I appreciate the engineering involved, and acknowledge the triad lock as being the strongest lock I'm aware of.

I don't hang weights from my knives or do spine wacks, so the testing isn't relevant for me.

I'm content with a simple liner lock, and don't really *need* the strength of the triad lock.

That said, I own numerous knives with the triad lock.
 
Package up and send me them garbage weak-locked Sebenzas for proper disposal. Hell, send me one to test and I promise to be just as unbiased in testing as Demko and CS in my testing.

I have said it before and I will say it again.. I cannot imagine a time where I am dumb enuff to use the spine of a Sebenza to try and cut anything or to hold weight.
That was never the intended use of the knife nor was it designed for that. Cutting forces are perpendicular to the cutting edge while you have your meat hooks wrapped around the handle..You worry about the knife collapsing in this scenario?
Here is how difficult it is to use a Sebenza- You pull it out of your pocket/sheath or wherever you like to carry your knife..you open the blade,..use it for whatever you want to cut..depress the lockbar to fold it back up to put back in your pocket- I have dumbassed on this and lost one before...try to get it back in your pocket.
Remember the part where you fold the knife? There's your clue that it's a broken knife..don't be the dumb on how you use your tools and you will be fine.
If you treat it as anything other than a tool that is broken in the center, then Darwin will want to have some words with you.
Of course, my opinion. Whatever you carry, be safe.
 
bhyde bhyde , coming in and ruining a perfectly good arguing with his logic. ;)
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I've still yet to hear any factual rebuttal of Cold Steel's tests . Lots of crying and "we don't care " and " it doesn't matter" , but zero proof or evidence that the tests are not real and true . All this bashing is very weak . :) Cold Steel wins again ! :cool::thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
Pointy81 said:
A while back I was watching videos of Cold Steel comparing the strength of their triad lock vs lock designs from other manufacturers.
I’ll admit, these videos have really bummed me out in a way. I like Cold Steel, I currently own a couple of their machetes, but I have seen locks buckle under pressure much earlier than I expected. I’ll mention a couple that really stand out, Chris Reeve Sebenza and the Hogue compression lock.
These tests disappoint me more with other manufacturers than it encourages me to buy Cold Steel. What are your thoughts on these videos?
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I don't buy a knife based upon the lock. I own and use slipjoints that do not lock, so why would I put so much stock in a lock to get a knife that I do not want or support a maker/owner/designer that I do not respect?

I buy CRK because they stand behind their product, and they want to support the knife making industry, so they put their lock out there for anyone to use.

I also buy Spyderco due to their extensive list of alloys used and their owners integrity.

Aside from them, I mostly support custom makers, GEC and old traditional makers (pre 1970 preferred).

I do not support Cold Steel primarily due to Lynn Thompson.
 
mongomondo said:
I believe they have the strongest locks you can buy on a folding knife. Also, I believe I can get by with a slipjoint for the rest of my life.
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This. Completely. I’ll go a step further and say 90% of ya could get by with a slip joint for the rest of our lives. I just like other stuff, so I keep buying it. I really don’t “need” most of what I keep buying.
 
DocJD said:
I've still yet to hear any factual rebuttal of Cold Steel's tests . Lots of crying and "we don't care " and " it doesn't matter" , but zero proof or evidence that the tests are not real and true . All this bashing is very weak . :) Cold Steel wins again ! :cool::thumbsup::thumbsup:
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I believe the tests are real and true, but I also believe the tests are irrellavent to real world use. They are forcing the knife to CLOSE. If you use a knife properly you will not encounter that scenario easily, if at all. What is your purpose for the knife? Tip ripping? Well, then get the Triad lock and feel good about it!
 
DocJD said:
I've still yet to hear any factual rebuttal of Cold Steel's tests . Lots of crying and "we don't care " and " it doesn't matter" , but zero proof or evidence that the tests are not real and true . All this bashing is very weak . :) Cold Steel wins again ! :cool::thumbsup::thumbsup:
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Whether the tests and results are "real" is of no bearing to me. Due to this, they do not factor in to my decision. I guess since I don't spend my money on cold steel they don't "win again", eh?
 
danbot said:
Why not? You don't buy a $400 CRK because you think it must have the strongest lock, and you don't buy a $50 CS knife because you think it's a high precision masterpiece.
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Absolutely, because when I buy a 400.00 CKR, I’m getting just that, a 400.00 knife. If I bought a 50.00 CS, I’d get a 50.00 lock, if I need a lock that strong, I really need to stop using a knife altogether.
 
DocJD said:
I've still yet to hear any factual rebuttal of Cold Steel's tests . Lots of crying and "we don't care " and " it doesn't matter" , but zero proof or evidence that the tests are not real and true . All this bashing is very weak . :) Cold Steel wins again ! :cool::thumbsup::thumbsup:
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No, Andrew Demko wins again. Cold Steel would be nothing without him.
 
Ajack60 said:
Absolutely, because when I buy a 400.00 CKR, I’m getting just that, a 400.00 knife. If I bought a 50.00 CS, I’d get a 50.00 lock, if I need a lock that strong, I really need to stop using a knife altogether.
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Fixed blade if you need strength. Prybar if you need to pry,..Hammer if you need to..Oh, this is all common sense stuff.
I'm sure the CS Triad is a fine piece of knife..just not for me.
I'm more than happy languishing with dangerous tools and realizing that I grew up in a time where common sense dictated that you have to be responsible for your decisions on how you ultimately use anything inherently dangerous. It has a sharp edge..treat it with respect.

Kindof curious about what CS won? Manufacturing quality awards at Blade?
 
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