Anyone heard of this guy?

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So i've been scouring the forums for a good place to place my first post, and i have come to the conclusion that this is a great spot!
I went and checked his website and sadly, it is still up, over a year later, only now he offers a miniscule discount for military personnel for shipping, or like $5 off the sheath or something insanely worthless, so worthless, in fact, that i forgot what it was. It seems as though he's been getting lazy, as there are only 2 testimonials, i guess he ran out of ideas for bogus stories.
Anyways... what brought me here is, i actually know someone that purchased one of these, he, however bought it from a flea market for $15 and the coating was scratched off. We thought it was a pretty good deal considering we could resharpen all absurd cutting edges ourselves, and he needed a knife for a camping trip.
Well, long story shorter... we went camping and he hacked at a tree limb in the way, trying to be all cool (as a 19 yr old would) and the blade snapped in half! just busted right in half, and flew back towards us.
We picked up the blade and he tried to bend it to see how flexy it was... well it didnt flex, it broke AGAIN!!! in his hand! he actually had to get a shard of metal removed from his forearm.
The blade reminded me of native american arrow heads, you wouldnt know it was so breakable until you applied pressure, even though it WAS sharp, it was brittle as... peanut... brittle :s
P.S. after reading this thread in its entirety i've come to realize that i may have actually passed by his shop multiple times, i head through that area when i visit family, though i dont recall ever seeing a sign for the place... and after checking google maps, i realized its open farm land where theres a bunch of citrus farms : (
 
Mark Twain quote " There's a sucker born every minute. "
And you certainly have to be one to spend that kind of money on this junk.
 
MellowMike said:
Well, long story shorter... we went camping and he hacked at a tree limb in the way, trying to be all cool (as a 19 yr old would) and the blade snapped in half! just busted right in half, and flew back towards us.
We picked up the blade and he tried to bend it to see how flexy it was... well it didnt flex, it broke AGAIN!!! in his hand!
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You guys must have found one of the ones that were heat treated 3 extra times.;)

Regards,
3G

P.S. Welcome to BladeForums!:)
 
Just found and read this thread! Too funny. Too bad that J. Lightning is probably some cubicle dude in Pakistan.....

Well, anyway, since the site listed an address...Google is your friend. The street view shows an nice dirt road running through an orange grove.

Phone number is a cell phone for two addresses, Lake Wales and Babson Park. So, at least we know that the number goes somewhere.

Apparently, though, the knives are made in a super secret underground tactical operator's bunker camouflaged to look like a orange tree.

Heat treated, of course.
 
reminds me of the paratrax :)

actually, i seem to recall this knife being widely advertised a few years ago now... plastic handle though, and much cheaper, more like $30-40 and made of something like 440

mmm

Bladite
 
not sure why the bump - but what the hell : just read the whole thread and it was a good read :-)

gotta say the most interesting part of the thread for me was the debate over free market theory... and the two main posters in that regard (Trent Rock and chardin) seemed to almost agree with each other, but yet, not quite.

My view is: the free market may well sort out this vendor's pricing and/or customer engagement model (antagonism coupled with fairly obvious truth stretching), but I also think it is a legitimate aspect of the free market for vigorous debate and discussion about a given vendor's wares. An internet forum is not much different (other than scale and geographic reach) from an old-time small town diner coffee klatch. Not all opinions will be based on direct experience with the product, but we can all agree that most or all of the posters can state direct experience with this vendor's store front (website) and sales pitch.... and thus are fully entitled to pass judgment on that. Some posting were beyond that and stepped over the line into ad hominem attacks (man boobs for eg) but were admitted to be as much (kudos Brian Jones).

As I said - a fun thread! :-)
 
I want to bring this thread back from the dead because it is hella funny. This guy is kinda retarded for a few reasons 1. he calls the coating he puts on the blade a "traction coating". Wouldn't you want your blade coating to have less tracting so there is less drag when swinging and battoning. 2. If sharpening this wears out a few diamond sharpeners which i doubt, how would a soildier sharpen this thing in the field. 3. that sheath. I could go to joanns fabrics and buy all of the stuff to make that sheath becides that frost cutlery push dagger and make it for like 5 bucks so why is he charging that much for a sheath thats made out of nylon? Its not like its made out of unicorn leather or dragon hide. Also pro-tect looks alot like pro-tec so he stole his name and last of all he is charging well over 500 dollars for a knife MADE IN PAKASTAN!!!!!! Do your self a favor folks and by a busse and with the money left over a hooker.
 
People have been saying that it is just a tops knife that he effed but if it even used to be a tops the why would he say it was made in pakastan. Either that doesn't add up or he is just retarded, which could definantly be a posibility.
 
keepitsimple said:
Actually I think that quote is usually attributed to P. T. Barnum.
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Actually PT said "There's a customer born every minute" but Larry smatchly, a lowly brush salesman just kicked out of the circus for touching the privates on a male circus elephant and his demand for a 25 cent refund fell on deaf ears changed what PT said.

I know, I was there, with one of those knives hooked to my belt!!:D:p
 
shooter_250 said:
these look familiar...

http://www.smkw.com/webapp/eCommerc...ife+with+Cord+Wrapped+Handle/FRHK6784150.html

http://www.smkw.com/webapp/eCommerce/products/fixed/Elk+Ridge™+Camo+Skinner/DBTA28.html

http://www.smkw.com/webapp/eCommerce/products/fixed/Marine+Corps+Knife+with+Sheath/SX0207A.html
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I like how the first one is designed for 'extreme' desert combat. Not just regular ol' "guys are trying to kill me" combat, mind you. This knife is only for 'extreme' desert combat.

I wonder if it's only for desert combat because if it gets wet the Elmer's glue holding the sheath together will dissolve?
 
bump? lol I couldn't help it after reading 400 + replies... btw, website is still up and the prices are the same... go figure!
 
...Wow, that was epic.

I've looked at the two pics of the Screaming Eagle and the "Razr" next to each other several times now and they're pretty unmistakable.

How is this guys site still up? I pray for anyone who has paid those outlandish prices for a reground Tops knife.
 
I just went on his youtube page (ProTectIntlOps) and watched the longer Training video. You get a glimpse of his Magnificent shop as well as see and hear him talk. My favorite part is when you see him throw one of his creations into a paper target.

I'd post it here but I'm not sure it it's aloud.
 
I know this is old news but I feel like this thread needs to be kept alive until J. Lightning changes his "design", if you will.

I sent an email asking some questions about his "products", trying to sound as naive as possible, but he didn't reply. Darn, I was hoping he'd send me a big long list of things he'd want to charge me up the a$$ for (extra heat-treats and an extra large "fence hook") because I was gonna post it here for some laughs at his expense, not that that hasn't already occurred.
 
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