Anyone tried a different lube?

[rabbivj]

So i think im a fan of Daiwa Reel Oil now...i got some in today and cleaned my knife and used a combination of CRK grease and a drop of 2 on the pivot hole and hoooboy its smooth...

 

[Amoo]

I'm currently testing this while I wait on my steel blanks for my lubrication test I'm going to be doing.

 

[SpyderPhreak]

I believe it's the same stuff, but I'm not 100%. Another good alternative is Finish Line Extreme Fluoro, very similar to CRK's lube.

Yep! :thumbup: I use the stuff when working at NASA, where I first learned about it, and then found out it's readily available online fairly inexpensively.

Only thing better is DuPont Krytox (pure PFPE/PTFE, comes in various viscosities), but it's expensive!!! I've used both, and honestly don't notice any difference between the two.

 

[Emre]

I've been using Tuff-Glide for years.

 

[rabbivj]

Yep! :thumbup: I use the stuff when working at NASA, where I first learned about it, and then found out it's readily available online fairly inexpensively.

Only thing better is DuPont Krytox (pure PFPE/PTFE, comes in various viscosities), but it's expensive!!! I've used both, and honestly don't notice any difference between the two.

im gonna give the finish line grease a whack...the krytox is def more expensive than crk lube, you can buy 3 crk tubes and still have more than krytox...also the christo-lube is also cheaper so thats a good alternative.

 

[SpyderPhreak]

Just a hunch, but I suspect that all Fluorinated Teflon grease is manufactured by DuPont, so there isn't likely much difference between them all except viscosity and other additives.

 

[Mo2]

Just a hunch, but I suspect that all Fluorinated Teflon grease is manufactured by DuPont, so there isn't likely much difference between them all except viscosity and other additives.

This is not true. There are some that are not made by Dupont and it makes a huge difference in reality, if its not. but thats just what ive read.

 

[SpyderPhreak]

This is not true. There are some that are not made by Dupont and it makes a huge difference in reality, if its not. but thats just what ive read.

Was only guessing, because I've never seen any that didn't claim to be manufactured by DuPont. I know Finish Line's is made by DuPont (or at least they claim it is).

 

[ChazzyP]

I just picked up a new large Inkosi, and in reading the accompanying literature learned that CRK not only suggests using their grease but alternatively a Teflon-based lube for their knives. In the last few CRKs I've had apart and re-lubed, I've gone back to the use of the W10 NanoOil that I mentioned back at the beginning of this thread.

I've been using Tri-Flow, which is PTFE, in my Teflon-washered knives--WC Les George Eagle, Hinderers, Benchmade AFCKs & Darkstars--but had to work around applying from an aerosol can. Keeping it from getting all over the knife--particularly on the lock-face--required disassembly and spraying the washers on a paper towel before reassembly. I recently was able to find and purchase Tri-Flow in liquid form in a needle oiler which makes the process way simpler for re-application.

Of course, to re-do a knife that has grease or oil in the pivot will require disassembly and cleaning before the application of an alternative lube anyway. Right now, my latest two CRKs are operating great with the factory lube in the Inkosi and whatever is in the large 21 Micarta-inlayed Insingo user I got last December. I may just pick one of my others to try out using Tri-Flow, time permitting.

 

[rabbivj]

I just picked up a new large Inkosi, and in reading the accompanying literature learned that CRK not only suggests using their grease but alternatively a Teflon-based lube for their knives. In the last few CRKs I've had apart and re-lubed, I've gone back to the use of the W10 NanoOil that I mentioned back at the beginning of this thread.

I've been using Tri-Flow, which is PTFE, in my Teflon-washered knives--WC Les George Eagle, Hinderers, Benchmade AFCKs & Darkstars--but had to work around applying from an aerosol can. Keeping it from getting all over the knife--particularly on the lock-face--required disassembly and spraying the washers on a paper towel before reassembly. I recently was able to find and purchase Tri-Flow in liquid form in a needle oiler which makes the process way simpler for re-application.

Of course, to re-do a knife that has grease or oil in the pivot will require disassembly and cleaning before the application of an alternative lube anyway. Right now, my latest two CRKs are operating great with the factory lube in the Inkosi and whatever is in the large 21 Micarta-inlayed Insingo user I got last December. I may just pick one of my others to try out using Tri-Flow, time permitting.

now question do you use the w10 nano by itself or in conjunction with the grease?

 

[ChazzyP]

now question do you use the w10 nano by itself or in conjunction with the grease?

I use it by itself. Nano is said to be effective when used in conjunction with other lubes, but I did not find that to be the case with fluorinated grease.

 

[rabbivj]

I use it by itself. Nano is said to be effective when used in conjunction with other lubes, but I did not find that to be the case with fluorinated grease.

Yeah I use the grease in conjunction with daiwa reel oil ATM. Works great but I'm gonna try finish line by itself. I may try the nano oil as well.


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[Amoo]

At the moment the grease I posted above has been outperforming the CRK grease, though I have to admit I don't have 2 of the exact same knife to do a fair test and I don't have all my blanks yet to do all the actual legitimate non subjective testing I'm going to do. Just thought I'd throw out there that 2 week in and the True Blue is operating smoother then the CRK, but again everything isn't equal so take that for what it is worth.

 

[GermanyChris]

When I got my knife it was a little gritty not in feel but in noise so I took it apart cleaned it and used the Reeve grease. I've not spend days not at home and work opening and closing it breaking it in. This evening I took it apart again cleaned it up but this time I just used the Reeve grease on the pivot busing and use this oil on bushings spread around with a q-tip and it greatly improved the smoothness at least initially. Now we'll see it it lasts [emoji15]

 

[rabbivj]

So i picked up some nano-oil 10w and relubed my sebenza this morning while at work...it works REAL well to my liking...

 

[Amoo]

I'm currently testing this while I wait on my steel blanks for my lubrication test I'm going to be doing.

I'm starting to get to the point where I am ready to start recommending people try this product. Over the last month I have received 4 different used CRKs. Every single one was running on factory grease. All looked like they had been recently clean and were relatively smooth. After breaking all 4 of them down, soap and water cleaning them, a little magic eraser to the washers then reassembly using this grease I'm 4/4 on smoother knife.

My Inkosi is getting close to a month now running this grease and feels the same way it did immediately after cleaning it. Literally the only reason I haven't taken it apart just to clean all the schmutz out from inside is because I want to see how long this stuff lasts before I begin to notice a difference.

Anybody else interested in giving this stuff a shot on their knives? $14/oz or $30 for 4oz which would last you a lifetime. I have no affiliation to this product or company what so ever, but would love to get some other opinions on this stuff.

 

[Glock Guy]

I'm starting to get to the point where I am ready to start recommending people try this product. Over the last month I have received 4 different used CRKs. Every single one was running on factory grease. All looked like they had been recently clean and were relatively smooth. After breaking all 4 of them down, soap and water cleaning them, a little magic eraser to the washers then reassembly using this grease I'm 4/4 on smoother knife.

What is the purpose of magic eraser-ing the washers? Are you using it to clean the gunk off them, or does it do some polishing as well?

 

[Amoo]

What is the purpose of magic eraser-ing the washers? Are you using it to clean the gunk off them, or does it do some polishing as well?

Yes but a finer amount of material is removed then even some of the finest sand papers.

 

[Glock Guy]

Yes but a finer amount of material is removed then even some of the finest sand papers.

That's what I thought, and that's something that is probably affecting your test as well. Here's what I mean:

When you test something (lube, in this case) you want to try and make sure that is the ONLY thing you are changing in your test. With the super tight tolerences on CRK knives, even removing a slight amount of material from the washers will have an effect. I'm not saying you're getting a complete false positive from the way you are doing it, i'm just saying the way to really see the difference from *just* switching lubes, is to carefully remove the old grease and replace it with the new. That way the mechanical aspect is as close to un-changed as possible.

In otherwords by changing the lube and slightly polishing the washers, you are seeing the results of 2 changes.

By simply cleaning the knife and switching *only* the lube, you are getting a better idea of the difference the lube makes since that is your ONLY change.

 

[Amoo]

That's what I thought, and that's something that is probably affecting your test as well. Here's what I mean:

When you test something (lube, in this case) you want to try and make sure that is the ONLY thing you are changing in your test. With the super tight tolerences on CRK knives, even removing a slight amount of material from the washers will have an effect. I'm not saying you're getting a complete false positive from the way you are doing it, i'm just saying the way to really see the difference from *just* switching lubes, is to carefully remove the old grease and replace it with the new. That way the mechanical aspect is as close to un-changed as possible.

In otherwords by changing the lube and slightly polishing the washers, you are seeing the results of 2 changes.

By simply cleaning the knife and switching *only* the lube, you are getting a better idea of the difference the lube makes since that is your ONLY change.

Definitely agree 100% with what you are saying. I have done the test with a few other knives of different kinds including a CRK without polishing the washer just for testing sake and the results were the same. I went to polishing the washer with the magic eraser because I'm that anal about trying to remove as much gunk as possible, plus it helps remove any old stubborn grease that did not come off in the brush bath.