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Are knife guys like gun guys?
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Let me guess. You and your friend are 35 or less right? I only say that because the most intense Glock fans tend to be younger guys who have only ever fired one or two brands. I think that the older one gets the more they appreciate the variety of brands and types that their hobby offers.
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I think EVERYONE has some sort of brand loyalty. doesn't matter what product.
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Quite an idiotic way to live.
I understand being brand partial or brand loyal but if one is to forsake all others due to a lack of a stamp on the side be it a knife/firearm/vehicle/etc is simply foolish.
Many people do live like this and love the blinders they put on themselves.
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I do see a lot less "x...nuff said" posts here than on gun boards. My guess is that when some people buy something that generally has one function that they feel is the most important function and costs a sizeable amount of money, then they feel the need to have "chosen correctly". IMHO, it's a lot of e-chest thumping. I've never heard of a guy carrying an M&P getting killed by a criminal only to have the officer arrive on scene shaking his head, "If only this poor SOB had been carrying a Glock..."
But yes, there are a FEW brand loyalists in the knife community. I would say we have a bigger problem with steel snobbery which as I get older I find eye-rolling. Then again, I like to sharpen.
My guess is that it may be counterintuitive, but I think that sort of rah-rah tribalism is more common at the outer edges where someone who doesn't have the means to try a lot and get a broad picture of what is available feels the NEED to be right and have invested correctly.
I think guns are more susceptible to this line of thinking due to the fact that most purchased today are viewed as pretty much ONLY weapons and that the entry level in terms of dollars is so much higher than with knives.
To each their own, though
But yes, there are a FEW brand loyalists in the knife community. I would say we have a bigger problem with steel snobbery which as I get older I find eye-rolling. Then again, I like to sharpen.
My guess is that it may be counterintuitive, but I think that sort of rah-rah tribalism is more common at the outer edges where someone who doesn't have the means to try a lot and get a broad picture of what is available feels the NEED to be right and have invested correctly.
I think guns are more susceptible to this line of thinking due to the fact that most purchased today are viewed as pretty much ONLY weapons and that the entry level in terms of dollars is so much higher than with knives.
To each their own, though
I have a lot of Glocks. And S&W revolvers. And Rugers. And lots of other guns. Brand loyalty is dumb.
Glocks work and have supported 10mm for decades when others didn’t so people are loyal to them but that doesn’t mean we denounce other brands.
Either that or a convert. I know a couple of amateur competitive shooters that loved kimber. They got some bad Kimbers a while back and switched to Glock. They are rabid Glock fans now.
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I'm 57 my friend is 52
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The word "most", when used to describe an entire group of people negatively, should give you a red flag about accepting the opinion of who has used the word.
Just like in any hobby, knife enthusiasts are a deserve group with varying opinions, likes/dislikes, and understanding. Sure there are some a-holes like "most" of the gun guys your buddy thinks exist, but most of us, like most groups of people, are reasonable enough. See how I positively used the term "most"?
Yup, pretty much. That's the reason why I'm a Ford guy. I HATE Chevy's, absolutely detest them. Don't ask me why, I have no logical explanation. Same reason why I HATE the Dallas Cowboys, Toronto Maple Leaf's, anything in California, Apple... I told you. no logical explanation.
However, I wouldn't turn down a free '69 396 Chevelle
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Tribalism exists in all cultures and subcultures. It's human nature.
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This seems like a pretty broad brush question.
I personally see the gun community as similar to the knife community in some ways. There are those in both that are collectors, those that chase the latest and greatest releases and those that favor utility and reliability over most other factors.
I am more utilitarian myself, it isn't so much brand loyalty but strategic vetting of a brand. In the case of handguns, Glock has a worthy reputation though there are no shortages of "plastic fantastics" looking to take their market share - Glock however remains the standard by which all polymer guns are measured.
I personally see the gun community as similar to the knife community in some ways. There are those in both that are collectors, those that chase the latest and greatest releases and those that favor utility and reliability over most other factors.
I am more utilitarian myself, it isn't so much brand loyalty but strategic vetting of a brand. In the case of handguns, Glock has a worthy reputation though there are no shortages of "plastic fantastics" looking to take their market share - Glock however remains the standard by which all polymer guns are measured.
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If it doesn't shoot half-MOA, it's just a noise maker!
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I have my favorite brands that I tend to stay with, not that I think they’re superior and other brands are inferior but because they work for me and I trust their warranty and service. And I can readily find them in the stores around here.
Also I think it’s a demographic sales thing where you have more exposure to certain brands than others. In my part of the world I don’t see any of the brands in stores that I see a lot of folks on here have and mention . I think most people in this area being more rural they tend to go with more afordable brands. Only occasionally in a pawn shop do I see ZT , Spiderco, Benchmade and such. There might be some specialty shops that can order them but probably don’t carry much in stock on the shelf.
Also I think it’s a demographic sales thing where you have more exposure to certain brands than others. In my part of the world I don’t see any of the brands in stores that I see a lot of folks on here have and mention . I think most people in this area being more rural they tend to go with more afordable brands. Only occasionally in a pawn shop do I see ZT , Spiderco, Benchmade and such. There might be some specialty shops that can order them but probably don’t carry much in stock on the shelf.
One of the ways to distinguish S30V from S35VN is S30V is a bit harder to sharpen, but practically speaking, in real world use, they are so close that it's really hard to tell apart. Regarding generation, dr Larrin Thomas did a test a while ago comparing M390 and 20CV, M390 is 3rd gen, supposed to be ultra ultra clean, and was marketed as something exceptional, but when dr Larrin did some test to compare them, they are so close that it's almost impossible for a mere mortal human to tell apart.
What i'm trying to say is, some people get over obsessed with steel and hold on to outragous claims of their performance, but in reality that difference is minuscule.
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I'm definitely not like your aforementioned gun guy. I'm rather the opposite. I prefer variety in both, though I do have brands I specifically disdain and/or denounce.
I'm an anti-Glock person. My 3 semi-auto centerfire pistols come from 3 different brands. Sig P365 SAS, Steyr M9-A1, and a Beretta PX4 in .40.
I like the unusual. However, I also value quality and reliability. I have several Spyderco's not because I'm brand loyal, its just I really enjoy those particular designs. I've owned plenty of Spyderco's I disliked or had issues with.
I'm an anti-Glock person. My 3 semi-auto centerfire pistols come from 3 different brands. Sig P365 SAS, Steyr M9-A1, and a Beretta PX4 in .40.
I like the unusual. However, I also value quality and reliability. I have several Spyderco's not because I'm brand loyal, its just I really enjoy those particular designs. I've owned plenty of Spyderco's I disliked or had issues with.
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That's because m390 and 20cv are the same, just made by two different producers. The whole 2nd Gen, 3rd gen processes can't be compared as it's the producer themselves who say whether their process is 2nd or 3rd gen... There is no standard. For all intents and purposes the steels are practically identical. Same with 204p. Which is why I laugh when I see people say they prefer one over the other, or see a chart say that the steels have different qualities....
The only real difference is the heat treatment.
As for guns...i don't know, don't care. I have my 9mm (stoeger str-9) and my ar-15, and they work for me. I kind of laugh at all these people who put together Gucci guns and spend 10s of thousands... But if it's what they like. I've had people scoff at me for carrying a $465 knife (xm-18). No big deal.
What I really find disturbing are those people who make guns their whole identity, and basically fetishize them. Like, you ok bro? You need some social interaction?