Are Spyder Holes Liabilities?

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Fanglekai said:
If they did it that way it'd be set up for right-hand only and all of us lefties would be out of luck. No thanks. There's nothing wrong with the Spyderhole as it is.
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I don't think there is anything wrong with it as is. Was just a thought. And along those lines, there would be an inset on both sides, of course. If you had say 6mm thick at the spine and bored a 1.5mm hole into each side it would be plenty deep enough for the thumb to find the inset and make use of it. and there would still be 3mm of metal between where the bore depth of both sides stops.

Even so, probably not the best idea. It's easier to make one through hole, then it is to make an inset on one side, and flip it over to make another or make an inset on both sides simultaneously. To do so wouldn't just be making an adjustment to a process likely. It might require an entirely new machine to do that. And it might change the balance slightly so they would then have to subtract metal from somewhere else to correct it.

But it might be worth them taking out a design patent on (if they have not already) just to protect their design from one more angle.
 
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I'd like to weigh in, here.

My name is Larry J. Perry Jr. I am 30 years old. I have been carrying, using and sometimes abusing knives every single day since I turned 18 and could buy one of my own.

I have only broken one knife, ever. It was a very early Swamprat knife, one of the short blades with a huge choil. Rat-3 or something or other. I broke it, at the choil, stabbing it and twisting it out of a log. The knife was replaced in a week, no questions, and performed the same tasks I broke the first one doing with no issue.

The vast majority of my knives have been folders, and most of those have been Spydercos. I have always felt that they were designed for use rather than pocket jewelry, and so I have purchased many of them.

I have bought so many Spyderco Knives that I can't even begin to list them. I mean, I could, but it would be hard and take a lot of thought.

Not a single one ever broke at the hole. In fact, not a single one broke, ever.

Here's some pictures I've taken over the past decade to support my post:
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J85909266 said:
I'd like to weigh in, here.

My name is Larry J. Perry Jr. I am 30 years old. I have been carrying, using and sometimes abusing knives every single day since I turned 18 and could buy one of my own.

I have only broken one knife, ever. It was a very early Swamprat knife, one of the short blades with a huge choil. Rat-3 or something or other. I broke it, at the choil, stabbing it and twisting it out of a log. The knife was replaced in a week, no questions, and performed the same tasks I broke the first one doing with no issue.

The vast majority of my knives have been folders, and most of those have been Spydercos. I have always felt that they were designed for use rather than pocket jewelry, and so I have purchased many of them.

I have bought so many Spyderco Knives that I can't even begin to list them. I mean, I could, but it would be hard and take a lot of thought.

Not a single one ever broke at the hole. In fact, not a single one broke, ever.

Here's some pictures I've taken over the past decade to support my post:
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I hope this illustrates my long-term and experience with the brand. I've known Spyderco longer than my wife.
 
Even knives with thumb studs have a hole in the blade, so that said thumb stud can be installed. I wouldn't worry about the Spyder hole.
 
A cylinder is not a weak shape. Even when it is formed by negative space, it is still a cylinder. I'd think the shape of the hole alone would add back structural integrity where the removal of material may have subtracted it. And less mass means that when accelerated (say dropped for instance) there is less force (since force in this respect is mass times acceleration). And a less forceful impact, involving a material that possesses the same physical properties otherwise, would make it less likely to take damage. It seems to me that it all balances out.
 
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Helleri, take a look at the Roadie, Sal is one step ahead! ;) but in all seriousness, a 6mm blade would be insanely thick, especially for a folder. I see where your thoughts were going though, and its not a bad thought, just doesn't work for this application, that's not to say it wouldn't work at all.

At this point I don't think this thread is going to get any farther, since its obvious some responders have not read the thread, and its gotten a bit silly.
 
Hi Helleri,

The patent (1981) was on the ledge for thumb opening. The trademark is on a through hole.

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gadgetgeek said:
Helleri, take a look at the Roadie, Sal is one step ahead! ;) but in all seriousness, a 6mm blade would be insanely thick, especially for a folder. I see where your thoughts were going though, and its not a bad thought, just doesn't work for this application, that's not to say it wouldn't work at all.

At this point I don't think this thread is going to get any farther, since its obvious some responders have not read the thread, and its gotten a bit silly.
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Oh wow look at that...well they do have a lot of knives. Guess it should be expected that if there is a variation to be had, that they have thought of it by now. And 6mm just works nicely to exemplify the ratio of metal removed on either side vs. metal remaining at the core.

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Hi Helleri,

The patent (1981) was on the ledge for thumb opening. The trademark is on a through hole.

sal
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That surprises me. I would have thought that the obtuse angle rise and the hole that it accommodates, at the base of otherwise long standing blade shapes (modifying those shapes to make them distinct and proprietary), on the spine side of the blade, would be the the part that fell under a design patent. And that the word Spyderco (possibly in conjunction with the most commonly used fonts and colors) and the bug logo would be the trade marked part of it.
 
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ursamajor said:
Even knives with thumb studs have a hole in the blade, so that said thumb stud can be installed. I wouldn't worry about the Spyder hole.
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Not just a hole but a hole under constant tension from the press-fit stud.
 
Helleri said:
Doesn't have to be a hole. I'd imagine an inset could work just as well (something like this):
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Could even put the spider logo in the bottom of the inset. Then it would be less likely to wear off over time. It would also be more of a spydey hole because the spider would be in the hole.
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Check out the Chris Reeve Mnandi. It uses what looks like an enlarged nail nick that works like what you're descibing.
 
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