Are Spyder Holes Liabilities?

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GronK said:
The hole (along with deep jimping or other material reduction in the blade) will be the weakest point but will only break when used improperly. For normal knife usage it will certainly hold up just fine.

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Yes of course.
 
^^^^^^^That's an oval shape . There is more metal taken out in the middle of the blade . Spyderco use a circle so there is no straight line there for spyderco blade shape will be stronger than a strider .
 
It would be a liability for them to not make thumb holes, ........because then I wouldn't buy them! :)

I look specifically only at folders with a thumb hole.
 
If a knives, as used as designed, fails around the hole it a steel and production failure. If you're prying a car door open, that's a failure of the brain.

A man bought shoes at the store I work at. Mid boots that are waterproof. The cam back saying the liner was defective and his foot got wet. He described stepping into a puddle that went to about mid shin.
 
What Ken said made sense. I just wanted to know to what extent, if any, people had experienced it in the real world. My unedited OP states I know the difference between a knife, a hammer, and a prybar, but I get a bunch of prybar comments. Thank you to those who offered helpful opinions instead of just fanboy spluge.
 
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RockCowles said:
What Ken said made sense. I just wanted to know to what extent, if any, people had experienced it in the real world. My unedited OP states I know the difference between a knife, a hammer, and a prybar, but I get a bunch of prybar comments. Thank you to those who offered helpful opinions instead of just fanboy spluge.
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Fan boy spluge? How about common sense. Don't like the responses you get on the internet? Then don't ask the obviously flawed question.
 
RockCowles said:
What Ken said made sense. I just wanted to know to what extent, if any, people had experienced it in the real world. My unedited OP states I know the difference between a knife, a hammer, and a prybar, but I get a bunch of prybar comments. Thank you to those who offered helpful opinions instead of just fanboy spluge.
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Ken onion designs knives with holes in them. Lots of knives. One knife in particular he designed for spyderco has three holes in the blade. Perhaps you took his comments too literal. He obviously puts his name on blades with holes in them. Why fight a fight that he won't even fight?
 
If a knife lacks a hole then there is still a ricasso, lock, or pivot to provide a weak spot. Any mechanical device has a weakest point.

I've had more problems with locks failing on other brands; I've never had a Spyderco fail at the hole.
 
Danke42 said:
So what is your solution for this problem you've found?
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As I stated earlier, both folders and fixed blades have thier purposes. EDCing a five to seven inch fixed blade is not always practical or legal as well as drawing unwanted attention in a lot of situations. A thicker quality blade with a titanium handle, pivot pin and screw would make a considerable difference.

This is my best answer so far. Combative Edge PX-41.

 
craytab said:
Ken onion designs knives with holes in them. Lots of knives. One knife in particular he designed for spyderco has three holes in the blade. Perhaps you took his comments too literal. He obviously puts his name on blades with holes in them. Why fight a fight that he won't even fight?
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I thought I was asking for informed opinions, not picking a fight. I own several Spydercos and picked up another last week and got to wondering about it again. Silly effing me.
 
RockCowles said:
As I stated earlier, both folders and fixed blades have thier purposes. EDCing a five to seven inch fixed blade is not always practical or legal as well as drawing unwanted attention in a lot of situations. A thicker quality blade with a titanium handle, pivot pin and screw would make a considerable difference.
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Perhaps you can provide some factual evidence where the spyderhole failed that caused increased distress in an emergency situation?
 
craytab said:
How about common sense. Don't like the responses you get on the internet? Then don't ask the obviously flawed question.
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I don't see it as obviously flawed or as a common sense issue. Please be so kind as to share your credentials along with your expertise.
 
RockCowles said:
This is my best answer so far. Combative Edge PX-41.

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I was wondering when you were going to get around to hawking the knife you designed. I read your post on the other forum where you brought up the Spydie hole "issue"

As to thick blades, the Military in my prior post in this thread is thicker at the spine than your PX-41. [emoji6]

Ohhh..... Not a Spyderco Fanboy either. I have an Emerson in my right front pocket every single day.

(Military is IWB [emoji2])
 
RockCowles said:
I thought I was asking for informed opinions, not picking a fight. I own several Spydercos and picked up another last week and got to wondering about it again. Silly effing me.
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Don't joke around. The man who told you the hole is a liability puts holes in his blades. Who's opinion is not informed? Who is picking a fight? Did you ask Ken why if he thinks holes in blades are a liability, he in fact designs knives with holes in the blade? Seems like you didn't do the basic leg work here and are blaming that on "fanboy sludge" and/or "picking fights". Sorry, but that is what it looks like to me. Some others have agreed that your original assertion is bunk for many reasons. Haven't seen a bunch of evidence on your side to say otherwise. If it was a real world problem spyderco would be in trouble or gone. Have you considered that you are overthinking this?
 
Todd21969 said:
I was wondering when you were going to get around to hawking the knife you designed. I read your post on the other forum where you brought up the Spydie hole "issue"

As to thick blades, the Military in my prior post in this thread is thicker at the spine than your PX-41. [emoji6]

Ohhh..... Not a Spyderco Fanboy either. I have an Emerson in my right front pocket every single day.

(Military is IWB [emoji2])
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That's what this was all about?!?

For Scagel's sakes.
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RockCowles said:
As I stated earlier, both folders and fixed blades have thier purposes. EDCing a five to seven inch fixed blade is not always practical or legal as well as drawing unwanted attention in a lot of situations. A thicker quality blade with a titanium handle, pivot pin and screw would make a considerable difference.

This is my best answer so far.
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OK sounds like it's time for some free advice.

Sell on your own merits, and be up front that you are selling.

The whole sell against thing that some folks swear by doesn't do well with a typical hoe your own garden knife knut.
 
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