Are you ready for Snark week?!!!

[Bladite]

brawndo has electrolytes...

i hate that i'm missing E's weekend.

alas.

also the weather up here is frightful, and might extend to weekend.

which means northern gathering might be tuff.

 

[Jerry D.]

So the PO of my house left a mosquito pit.... Err.... Water feature. I went to move the bricks out and saw this little guy hiding out. Look to the left of the top brick.

I named him Gumbo.

We're aa little ways from the nearest pond. My guess is that a bird or raccoon must have dropped him in there.

 

[Bladite]

actually, they walk just fine overland for mile

 

[Jerry D.]

actually, they walk just fine overland for mile

The nearest pond is much closer than a mile, so walking is definitely a possibe explanation.

 

[1066vik]

I'm with Hoss... 3 16's is a little much, better send one up here for safe keeping. Pass along a Hello, and well wishes to everybody up there!

fortunately - one of those is a 17 - so he only has 2 saber 16s there.

Thanks guys, I applied at cavenders(western wear, they sell boots and hats, etc) also going to apply at atwoods(basically tractor supply) and lowes

in Ks, Atwoods has an FFL and a stocked gun counter.

Traveling light this time around?

You also reminded me that I need a 14.

yes, yes you do.

 

[spikebot587]

fortunately - one of those is a 17 - so he only has 2 saber 16s there.



in Ks, Atwoods has an FFL and a stocked gun counter.



yes, yes you do.

Our use to only sell shotgun shells, but they recently started selling firearms as well. They have a nice little selection, glockes, m&ps, ruger revolvers and numerous other pocket pistoles

 

[granitestateofmind]

Traveling light this time around?

You also reminded me that I need a 14.

Hello?!?! You don't already have a 14? That's absurd....go back and check under the cushions.

Eyelets are cool. I'm half lit too, so maybe they're just cool under the circumstances.

No, they're cool....I was gonna say that there a LOT of eyelets in that picture. Hope you're completely lit by now.

So the PO of my house left a mosquito pit.... Err.... Water feature. I went to move the bricks out and saw this little guy hiding out. Look to the left of the top brick.

I named him Gumbo.

That's ambitious.....you're gonna need a pot the size of a teacup if he lives up to his name. Maybe you should take him fishing instead.....

Those Indiana lobsters are the puniest damn excuse for crustaceans that I have ever laid eyes on.

 

[Jerry D.]

Those Indiana lobsters are the puniest damn excuse for crustaceans that I have ever laid eyes on.

Thqt might be why he's hiding out in a bowl in my backyard.

 

[granitestateofmind]

Thqt might be why he's hiding out in a bowl in my backyard.

Maybe he's secretly plotting to take over the rest of the backyard. Or maybe it's NOT a "he".....she could be breeding a little pinchy army right under your nose. Better keep some melted butter on hand just in case......

 

[Jerry D.]

Maybe he's secretly plotting to take over the rest of the backyard. Or maybe it's NOT a "he".....she could be breeding a little pinchy army right under your nose. Better keep some melted butter on hand just in case......

Mmmmm... Delicious little pinchy army.

 

[MTURBO]

I had a little painted turtle no bigger than a quarter in a small plastic terrarium when I was a little kid.
I kept him outside and one day and it rained like heck and overflowed the terrarium.
I never seen him again even though I searched and searched.

 

[Doc_Savage]

Pardon the interruption to the regularly scheduled snark:

[/rant] although I shouldn't be surprised, I have yet again been left slack jawed at the utter discourteous treatment and complete lack of business acumen of some of the sellers on the exchange. Without going into details, imagine a scenario similar to this: you walk into a gun show, see an item you're interested in. Talk to the seller and inquire if they are open to negotiation, "ah yes, we certainly are", they answer, so you make an offer. They say l"et me check my records to see if that's ok", and turns away. You watch as he turns and looks at something. In the meantime, another dude walks up, looks at the item you are dealing on, sees the price as marked, and tells the guy as he turns back around, "hey, I'll take that" (at full price, of course). The new dude doesn't know you are in the process of making a deal, so he's not being rude. The seller turns and looks at you and says, "I'm sorry that has already sold at full price".

I just had something similar happen on EX. After being invited to make an offer, in the ad itself, and am waiting for a reply. (After many hours no less) get told it has already sold. Sigh.... Really? Couldn't offer me the option of full price, since I inquired first?... Why thank you.... Sigh. I'm still befuddled at a lack of simple courtesy. [/rantoff]

Now back to your regularly scheduled snark.

Doc

 

[james terrio]

You gonna pull them pistols or just whistle "Dixie"?

Sorry, Charlie... money talks. If you're willing to pay full price, pay full price first. Sorry if that sounds rude or crass, but that's how bills get paid. Besides, 9/10 people wanting to haggle back out anyway. No way in hell am I gonna turn away a cash now deal for hopes of a discount-later-maybe deal.

Personally, I avoid that sort of thing entirely by not haggling or entertaining offers in the first place. If I have a special deal I'm willing to make because someone's my pal or they're just on the fence or waiting for payday and aren't sure if the knife will still be there in 2 weeks or I'm just plain tired of looking at the dang thing... they'll be the first to know.

 

[Doc_Savage]

Sorry, Charlie... money talks. If you're willing to pay full price, pay full price first. Sorry if that sounds rude or crass, but that's how bills get paid. Besides, 9/10 people wanting to haggle back out anyway. No way in hell am I gonna turn away a cash now deal for hopes of a discount-later-maybe deal.

Personally, I avoid that sort of thing entirely by not haggling or entertaining offers in the first place. If I have a special deal I'm willing to make because someone's my pal or they're just on the fence or waiting for payday and aren't sure if the knife will still be there in 2 weeks or I'm just plain tired of looking at the dang thing... they'll be the first to know.

Then he should have said so in the first place. Don't advertise one way and deal another. That is proper business. You can't or won't haggle? Great... I can and will deal with that. Don't like it, be up front. That's how you stay in business and pay bills.

Doc

 

[james terrio]

Yeah, the guy shouldn't have left you hanging... that's a mite unprofessional. Again, that's why I don't muck about with that kind of thing... someone's pretty much guaranteed to get ticked off.

 

[worldwood]

The last big swamp rat knife i sold, i had a guy make an offer lower than my asking price, i countered with a price in the middle of what he offered and my asking price.

While i was waiting on him to reply, someone offered me the full price.... Then the first guy came back and accepted my counter offer. He got the knife less than full price. And i turned away the full price offer.

So what i do sometimes, when someone makes me a lower offer i will tell them, "Give me 24 or 48 hours first, and if it doesnt sell at my asking price you get first dibs at that lower price. That has worked well.

Not really related... But on another note someone offered me 140 for that $400 Ryan Weeks knife.... I responded with "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... If it's not obvious by that alone, im saying NO"

Maybe that was a bit "rough" as a reply... But i said no lowball offers on the ad and felt insulted... That was my "nice" reply


Now back to reading up on flavoring spirits. Im wonder if you can add fruit/wood/spices in with corn mash before/while it ferments for flavor... Of if you do that in the still? Or after the distillation.... I know some just buy flavors in liquid form and they seem to use it when they are cutting it... Im guessing anyways... But some are sold as solid spices... Im guessing they go in before distillation.... Id like to add my own natural flavors, not store bought... But that will be in solid form.... Not sure when it goes in there... lots more to learn.

 

[crimsonfalcon07]

This one is interesting. I think I agree with JT here though. I will usually tell people that I'm open to offers, but if a better offer comes in, I reserve the right to take it. Really, that seems to me like it should be obvious, though. It's like most sales here. First "I'll take it" wins, and otherwise, best offer. I can't say as how I think that seller was courteous about handling the situation, but making a lower offer doesn't give you any special rights. It just gives you a chance to buy something at less than full price if the seller is feeling generous. If it's anything like an auction, it's an auction with a Buy It Now option. Are you the sort to get peeved if you're in the middle of a bidding war on an Ebay auction with BIN and someone comes in and pays full price and "buys the item out from under you"? My thoughts on making offers is that you should OFFER the maximum you feel comfortable paying. If you're willing to pay full price, just pay it and be done, or otherwise don't feel like you have some sort of special right to the item. If you're looking to save a couple bucks here and there, you shouldn't begrudge the seller the same desire.

In WW's situation, I think he did the right thing, because he'd made a counter-offer which had been accepted. At that point he's made an obligation to sell the item at that price to that person if the other person agrees, unless he's stipulated that the offer is void if someone offers to pay full price in the interim. In your situation, Doc, I would probably have said something more like "I'm sorry, sir, but I'm sure you understand that with a full price offer on the table, I can't entertain your lower offer, nor can I offer to sell it to you at full price. First full-price offer wins, and his offer at my asking price was the first one I've received."

 

[james terrio]

Now back to reading up on flavoring spirits. Im wonder if you can add fruit/wood/spices in with corn mash before/while it ferments for flavor...

Fruit, absolutely you could... just like making wine. If nothing else, you're going to boost the sugar content and help the fermentation along. :thumbup: That's going to taste quite different than just adding say strawberry extract at the end... just like fresh juice tastes different from wine, and wine tastes different from brandy. There's a reason people just make the purest, cleanest shine they can and add flavors later. Or just make fruit brandy to begin with... but fruit's usually so expensive you're better off just buying wine at the store, unless you own an orchard/berry patch.

Which brings me to another point, that my wife cannot wrap her head around... "But I like the strawberry and blueberry moonshine! So what if it costs a little more?" Because dear, you're paying more money for less shine... get the clear and I can add whatever dang juice or berries you want to it... you'll have half-again as much for the same or less cost...

Spices and/or wood... I'm thinking that's going to cause problems when you distill it - maybe serious ones? I for one would not want to be the guinea pig drinking the first batch of fermented wood. Spices and tannins probably aren't going to absorb very well until there's alcohol present to break them down anyway. I could be completely wrong of course... give it a try. Don't come crying to me if you go blind

 

[Doc_Savage]

Yeah, the guy shouldn't have left you hanging... that's a mite unprofessional. Again, that's why I don't muck about with that kind of thing... someone's pretty much guaranteed to get ticked off.

Oh, I'm not mad at all. Really, it's just a knife, not particularly rare or expensive. Only a $15 difference between my offer and the asking price. I am more slack jawed about the gentleman's conduct and lack of plain dealing. I guess I am just naive enough to believe that most folks are stand-up folks in the knife world. And I still do... I don't really care about the knife (there is always another) as much as the slap in the face disregard. Just ranted my dismay.

Doc

 

[Doc_Savage]

This one is interesting. I think I agree with JT here though. I will usually tell people that I'm open to offers, but if a better offer comes in, I reserve the right to take it. Really, that seems to me like it should be obvious, though. It's like most sales here. First "I'll take it" wins, and otherwise, best offer. I can't say as how I think that seller was courteous about handling the situation, but making a lower offer doesn't give you any special rights. It just gives you a chance to buy something at less than full price if the seller is feeling generous. If it's anything like an auction, it's an auction with a Buy It Now option. Are you the sort to get peeved if you're in the middle of a bidding war on an Ebay auction with BIN and someone comes in and pays full price and "buys the item out from under you"? My thoughts on making offers is that you should OFFER the maximum you feel comfortable paying. If you're willing to pay full price, just pay it and be done, or otherwise don't feel like you have some sort of special right to the item. If you're looking to save a couple bucks here and there, you shouldn't begrudge the seller the same desire.

In WW's situation, I think he did the right thing, because he'd made a counter-offer which had been accepted. At that point he's made an obligation to sell the item at that price to that person if the other person agrees, unless he's stipulated that the offer is void if someone offers to pay full price in the interim. In your situation, Doc, I would probably have said something more like "I'm sorry, sir, but I'm sure you understand that with a full price offer on the table, I can't entertain your lower offer, nor can I offer to sell it to you at full price. First full-price offer wins, and his offer at my asking price was the first one I've received."

Firstly, I am not ticked, peeved, mad at all. All of your points, while valid, were not part of the story. None of those variables were expressed. He did not post first "I take it". He did not say prices were firm, or any other caveat or reservation. He invited offers with his initial post. There was a postage issue, ie regular mail, he covered. Priority mail was to be split. I would have paid full price, but since he extended a call for offers, I popped one just low enough to cover priority mail. It was not a lowball. If he had promptly answered his PM he could have said no, and I would have paid full price. But I asked if he would take x right after his post went up. 8-12 hours passed before he responded, and in the meantime another gentleman popped in with I'll take it. Had he responded promptly, I would have already concluded the deal one way or the other. I disagree with you. If he wanted to wait for full price, not accept offers, or reject mine, he should have communicated that and/or concluded our dealings first. That is business courtesy.

Doc