For a minute there I thought maybe that would explain everything and it made sense that he passed away. But after e-mailing the seller, it appears he thought he read something in a magazine back in 1991 that he died. So I am pretty sure that he is alive.
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For a minute there I thought maybe that would explain everything and it made sense that he passed away. But after e-mailing the seller, it appears he thought he read something in a magazine back in 1991 that he died. So I am pretty sure that he is alive.
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As far as I know, unless he has passed away in the last little while, he is alive. I have heard nothing in the knife community that he has died, so it is pretty safe to assume that he is still with us.
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I would like to take this opportunity to apologize to the knife community and the forum members.
Sometimes things are said that are taken out of context and not meant the way that they were written. This is an open forum that lets people speak their opinions and that is all I was doing. Some of these opinions should have been kept to myself and in the future much more time and thought will go into what is said and written.
I will also no longer drop names in reference to my knives, other makers knives or knife making methods. We are a knife community and should work together.
Thank you for your time.
Regards,
Chuck
Sometimes things are said that are taken out of context and not meant the way that they were written. This is an open forum that lets people speak their opinions and that is all I was doing. Some of these opinions should have been kept to myself and in the future much more time and thought will go into what is said and written.
I will also no longer drop names in reference to my knives, other makers knives or knife making methods. We are a knife community and should work together.
Thank you for your time.
Regards,
Chuck
I just deleted a lot I wanted to say, and decided not to get
into it anymore. imho
the saying is, if you live by the sword you'll die
by the sword..
if you cut someone (knowingly or not) you may be the
one that ends up bleeding
be it meant to have been said and taking in the wrong
context or what have you,
it will/can happen .. this is the place for that
sort of thing but I will say, just beware,
you as anyone are open to the same thing back.
I'd like to call it in this case, discretion of
Maker to maker business ethics, respect and good practices.
at the hammer-in this weekend we had a club meeting
and some bylaws have been as of this morning been
written,, to
cover this type of thing by members of our club, the do's
and don'ts and no one will be exempt from it.
even the top honcho we will and do have a top notch Association going here, with
many things being planed for it.. and I'm proud to belong the NECKA.
this subject was a top issue at the meeting
you all have my respect, apologies and I'm sorry to have ventured off topic here...thank you Chuck for your last post
we all always can grow and learn from these things.
now I'm going back to shop talk...
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Mr. Gilbreath is alive and kicking. I know because I finally got to speak with him just the other night. He has recently undergone a third surgery which keeps him from knife work, and his mother is bedridden which takes up the rest of his time. I can understand that and have no problem with potential future complications. However, this was not the scenerio when I first sent the knife to him.
Also, the best he could offer me was to send the knife back to him and maybe he'd fix it someday when he could get around to it. Screw that. I'm not waiting another year or five. One thing he said kinda got to me. "Well, to fix it the way you want to have it done would take some time..." I said I didn't think it was too unreasonable to ask for a knife that wouldn't come open in my pocket and stab me. Then he started making excuses about how customers send him knives with half the pieces missing and expect him to fix it for free. There was nothing missing, and I did offer to pay him. He said how his car is having trouble after just 40,000 miles and the factory won't fix it. I told him I always believed knife makers would stand behind their product better than car dealers. Then he started saying how customers screw up the knives themselves, etc. I can take the blame for one stripped screw hole, but no previous owner put the ball detent 1.5 mm out of alignment. Turns out he didn't actually make a whole new liner anyway. He just put a bigger ball in the old one. He said "Well, when it left the shop, the ball was pulling the blade closed pretty good..."
WTF? No, it did not. I seriously doubt the postman changed the liner with a defective one.
In the end, I guess he's just not really too interested in satisfying customers now that he's out of that line of work. If he were still making knives, I'd recommend a boycott.
Also, the best he could offer me was to send the knife back to him and maybe he'd fix it someday when he could get around to it. Screw that. I'm not waiting another year or five. One thing he said kinda got to me. "Well, to fix it the way you want to have it done would take some time..." I said I didn't think it was too unreasonable to ask for a knife that wouldn't come open in my pocket and stab me. Then he started making excuses about how customers send him knives with half the pieces missing and expect him to fix it for free. There was nothing missing, and I did offer to pay him. He said how his car is having trouble after just 40,000 miles and the factory won't fix it. I told him I always believed knife makers would stand behind their product better than car dealers. Then he started saying how customers screw up the knives themselves, etc. I can take the blame for one stripped screw hole, but no previous owner put the ball detent 1.5 mm out of alignment. Turns out he didn't actually make a whole new liner anyway. He just put a bigger ball in the old one. He said "Well, when it left the shop, the ball was pulling the blade closed pretty good..."
WTF? No, it did not. I seriously doubt the postman changed the liner with a defective one. In the end, I guess he's just not really too interested in satisfying customers now that he's out of that line of work. If he were still making knives, I'd recommend a boycott.
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Outta popcorn? That sucks.
Oh well, at least this thread knocked out 30 minutes of "work" time.
By the way -- how old is Chuck? Everyone makes references to how young he is, and I'm just curious.
Oh well, at least this thread knocked out 30 minutes of "work" time.
By the way -- how old is Chuck? Everyone makes references to how young he is, and I'm just curious.
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Originally posted by tom mayo
If he were still making knives, I'd recommend a boycott.
Its time to let this thing die a natural death........
Hmmm........
Well, I guess I did let myself get carried away in my anger. I apologize to all here and Mr. Gilbreath for maybe taking it too far with that comment...
I would just like memebers here to know what they should expect if they ever have a problem with one of Mr. Gilbreath's knives, and preferably before they buy it.
wolfmann601
Gone, but not forgotton. RIP Ira.
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Damn!!!!!!!! Chuck is only 26 years old and that freaking talented.
I hope I am alive to see his work when he hits the 40's.
See ya in Marlboro Chuck!!!!
I hope I am alive to see his work when he hits the 40's.
See ya in Marlboro Chuck!!!!
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I am REAL happy to see things have settled down, and just about everyone has stepped up with an appropriate pause and apology. Don't anyone underestimate the power of words!!!
Anywho, for a good look at some of the work Chuck has done check out this link.
Also sorry to hear about Mr. Gilbreath. Ouch. I hope he gets his life and work in better order.
Coop
Anywho, for a good look at some of the work Chuck has done check out this link.
Also sorry to hear about Mr. Gilbreath. Ouch. I hope he gets his life and work in better order.
Coop
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I agree, i posted what i intended to be some constructive criticism, and wondered how Chuck would take it, whether he would get defensive and angry, or accept it graciously with some humility, after all, its precisely humility that i was trying to point out was recently missing in his posts. Well, he emailed me privately and actually THANKED me, he seems very nice, very dedicated to his craft, and he is proud of his work, as he should be, this youngish maker just needs to learn a little better how to be proud of his work without showing it quite as much, and he promised he would try to do just that, and it seems he is following through with that.
If you link to the other thread with pics of his work, i think its obvious that he has great potential, and i too would be very interested in looking at some of his knives in person one of these days.
I think he is headed in the right direction, both as a knifemaker, and a person who is becoming more mature and learning from his mistakes, which is after all, all any of us can hope to do.
If you link to the other thread with pics of his work, i think its obvious that he has great potential, and i too would be very interested in looking at some of his knives in person one of these days.
I think he is headed in the right direction, both as a knifemaker, and a person who is becoming more mature and learning from his mistakes, which is after all, all any of us can hope to do.
I am new to the world of custom knives, and went searching for info on "Chuck", as I intend to buy a knife from him. This thread has not changed my mind. I applaud his "youthful exuberance". If you have no faith in yourself, you can't expect anyone else to. I think he handled himself well, even though there was some ugly criticism leveled at him. As to "Indian George", I think I'll avoid you as well.
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What the hey, Coug? It hasn't even been five years since that last post...
I wonder how many members are looking at the email prompt on this, scratching their heads and saying, "Huh?"
What IS the cutoff for archiving this stuff, anyway?
I wonder how many members are looking at the email prompt on this, scratching their heads and saying, "Huh?"What IS the cutoff for archiving this stuff, anyway?