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I thought we were arguing power tools vs handiwork? You're more than welcome to fancifully grind off as much steel as you want with all manner of grandiose ideas that require very little effort. Now go ahead and try that with a file or a stone.Hollow grinds will stick compared to flat or convex. Their deflection increases the further into the bevel you get. On a wheel that large it's at least fairly shallow.
I thought we were arguing power tools vs handiwork? You're more than welcome to fancifully grind off as much steel as you want with all manner of grandiose ideas that require very little effort. Now go ahead and try that with a file or a stone.
One tool will merely become floor filings whereas the other won't be ruined when the next guy takes a shine to it.
It's funny, because any good axe or tool doesn't need to be maintained by power tools. It just has to set once properly either by the maker or user. Then used without mistakes and used expertly.Apt summary DbH. During my working days as a carpentry contractor I always kept a series of 'hack' chisels (in the 1980s these were blue plastic-handled Marples) that were conveniently/routinely sharpened with a grinding wheel, and a set of prize Sheffield chisels that were solely hand sharpened and honed. The good ones of course were never lent out nor used for 'common' work and the expendable chisels had to be replaced every couple of years when the blades became overly short. The good chisels on the other hand are still in service 40 years later and there's lots of life left in them.
You can be very sure that the lifespan of most axes is shortened considerably when they're sharpened by amateurs with power tools.
Well there aren't any professional axe swinging jobs any more. It's all hobby now.
That high speed bench grinder with the carborundum wheel right out of the fifty's is exactly why power tools for sharpening get a bad rap. It ruined more axes than any other cause.Lol whut? What are you even saying here? All I said was that using a jig like that will put a hollow grind on your bit, and that I was curious if the intended wheel diameter had been given for the jig since all the dimensions shown on it were kind of meaningless without knowing the right wheel diameter.
Anyhow, here's some info from the 1960 textbook "The Farm Shop" detailing good technique for a dry motorized grinding wheel.
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That high speed bench grinder with the carborundum wheel right out of the fifty's is exactly why power tools for sharpening get a bad rap. It ruined more axes than any other cause.
Hummm???If memory serves correctly all of the grinders shown in this particular book are belt-driven and so probably don't have the same RPMs as an electric bench grinder, but it's a combination of inexperience, high speed, and cheap wheels that cause issues. Only one of the three potential problems may be permitted to be present at a time. An experienced man can use cheap wheels effectively at low speed. An experienced man may use good wheels at high speed. An inexperienced man can use good wheels at low speed. Rock, paper, scissors.![]()
Hummm???
I am going to assume there is an adult on the other end.
I am not going to get into a debate with you on the merit of using equipment like that. Its just not worth my time. If you want to advocate their use for sharpening axes go right ahead...
Not all.My 2 old fashioned belt drive grinders both came set up to run at 1725 rpm. Those old electric motors were typically either 3450 rpm or 1725 rpm. You have to look at the size of sheaves on the motor and grinder drive. Motor speed alone alone is only half the story.
Wheels designed to shed abrasive do cut much cooler. It's my preference for bulk material removal. All wheels require great care to avoid damaging the temper. Live and learn.
That high speed bench grinder with the carborundum wheel right out of the fifty's is exactly why power tools for sharpening get a bad rap. It ruined more axes than any other cause.
The high speed bench grinders are bad and the wrong tool for the job. But you can certainly use what ever you like.I guess no one told them to dip it in water when it got warm.
Just because some people lack experience and understanding about how to use power equipment doesn't mean we have to blanket all power tools as "bad"
No need to punish the competent for the incompetent.
I have a cast iron one very similar to that one spotted. I have had my eye on it for a couple years now. Hasn't had a for sale sign on it yet but I suspect its coming.
Not unnecessarily bulky and hand powered. I imagine they are not light. Would be a nice get. I had a chance to pick up a large stone attached to a trailer a while back. It was pretty beat up. In hindsight......I have a cast iron one very similar to that one spotted. I have had my eye on it for a couple years now. Hasn't had a for sale sign on it yet but I suspect its coming.
They are problematic if the stones are not good. And replacing the bearings is something I have yet to really solve also. They are just a mess all the way around to repair. They come up fairly regular if a guy keeps his eyes open. Just get a good one right from the start.Not unnecessarily bulky and hand powered. I imagine they are not light. Would be a nice get. I had a chance to pick up a large stone attached to a trailer a while back. It was pretty beat up. In hindsight......