Axis lock flick?

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Yes, sometimes it just turns out that way.
There are topics that do that to a lot of us.
 
craytab said:
You don't have to spend a lot of money on a knife. The excuse of cost in supporting counterfeits is weak. Yes, counterfeit. Buy a Ganzo that advertises as an Axis lock then you have bought a counterfeit. At least own it. If your excuse for buying a counterfeit is that you can't afford a $100 knife then there is good reason why you are poor and can't afford a $100 knife. Improve your life situation. Buy better stuff. Or don't. But don't brag about supporting counterfeiting on a knife forum.
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As mentioned before, if the knife says "Ganzo" and not" Benchmade", it would be a "knockoff" or "unlicensed copy", not a "fake" or "counterfeit". I don't think the lock mechanism, being integral to the knife, would be "counterfeit" as much as "unlicensed copy".

Does it make a difference, though?
 
Goosey said:
As mentioned before, if the knife says "Ganzo" and not" Benchmade", it would be a "knockoff" or "unlicensed copy", not a "fake" or "counterfeit". I don't think the lock mechanism, being integral to the knife, would be "counterfeit" as much as "unlicensed copy".

Does it make a difference, though?
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Certainly a matter of discussion. I'm in the camp of saying if a company markets and advertises a stolen technology of another company, it is counterfeit. Others might disagree. I doubt Benchmade would. But the point is moot. Wrong is wrong. I feel sorry for those who can't see it.
 
Ahh semantics.
Look, strip away all the specific words and definitions.
Company "a" is using the intellectual property of company "b" without permission.
You tell yourself whatever BS you want to justify your purchase (or gift acceptance, or whatever). Just don't expect others to believe it too. Basically company "a" is being morally if not legally naughty, and a very high percentage of the folks here on BF are against that kind of naughtiness.
We like to support those companies, and individuals that innovate. Which in turn encourages them to keep on innovating.

Oh yeah. Axis flicking has never been an issue with any of my Benchmades.
 
Tom1983 said:
I was told that disengaging the axis lock by pulling it down with the thumb (and index finger too, if needed) and very gently flicking the blade open is a commonly used technique. Looks fine, feels good. But I'd rather hear from people who have actually been using this type of lock for years. On one side I hear people saying that an axis lock will wear in, not out and that they're built to withstand this. On the other side I hear people saying that the knives were simply not created with this opening technique in mind and that axis flicking is cheating and or/abusing.

What's your experience?
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Owned six Ganzos and have been 'abusing' them like you stated. And those knives are still kicking.

Or rather, were still kicking. Eventually gave them away to some construction dudes since I can't stand large knives with >3" blades. Who knows whether those guys will know how to take care of and maintain them.

But at the point of time where they were given away, the axis locks were still dandy, so flick-abuse it to your heart's content.
 
Okay op and people arguing about ganzo I gifted a guy who thought $50 was insane for a knife when I told him my delica price, a ganzo. He abused it for two years beat it to hell lock was good. Flicking and all. Then he (guy who thought $50 was outrageous) bought a benchmade 940 because he loved the lock so much. Now if it weren't for ganzo he never would have bought the benchmade meaning one less customer. The benchmade lock has lasted him a year so far flicking it and tons of other stuff so yes they last.


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Well thanks to this thread, I'm ready to turn over and go back to sleep! :thumbup: My ignore list also grew by two entries! :) :rolleyes:
 
Yeah you can flick any AXIS lock knives, a few companies use it, and locking systems like the spyderco Manix/manix 2. I flick my Manix 2, all my BM knives with AXIS are autos. Also most knives with button locks can be flicked open too.
 
blade dude said:
Okay op and people arguing about ganzo I gifted a guy who thought $50 was insane for a knife when I told him my delica price, a ganzo. He abused it for two years beat it to hell lock was good. Flicking and all. Then he (guy who thought $50 was outrageous) bought a benchmade 940 because he loved the lock so much. Now if it weren't for ganzo he never would have bought the benchmade meaning one less customer. The benchmade lock has lasted him a year so far flicking it and tons of other stuff so yes they last.
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Yep. And just like some are getting into knives because of cheap models, others are looking at them when they don't want to use their expensive knives for heavy duty tasks. I can't relate to that, because I gladly put my Spydies to work. And then there are people who now question the prices we pay for pocket knives after seeing the Chinese quality. Agree or disagree with the concept, but the quality can only be discussed about when comparing product A to product B, which is what I have done. Not like this thread was meant to be a quality comparison, though. People dislike Ganzo first for being Chinese, second for copying designs. Designs they are told to build by Spyderco and co. after all. This is not addressed to you, but when you have priorities in life other than a recently constructed national identity, you don't have to "tell yourself anything" to make a purchase. I am glad I have been given this knife. And had I known of the company's existence, I then would have bought quite a few on my travels. I don't care if someone gets a tingly feeling in your pants when a package says "Made in X". Take your money where you please, none of my business. But this also goes the other way around.

ATJ999 said:
Yeah you can flick any AXIS lock knives, a few companies use it, and locking systems like the spyderco Manix/manix 2. I flick my Manix 2, all my BM knives with AXIS are autos. Also most knives with button locks can be flicked open too.
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Etna said:
Owned six Ganzos and have been 'abusing' them like you stated. And those knives are still kicking.

Or rather, were still kicking. Eventually gave them away to some construction dudes since I can't stand large knives with >3" blades. Who knows whether those guys will know how to take care of and maintain them.

But at the point of time where they were given away, the axis locks were still dandy, so flick-abuse it to your heart's content.
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They're built like tanks, it seems. Thanks for sharing your experience.
 
Nevermind. I'll vent in Wine & Cheese intead....
 
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Armadew said:
Who said that? No one. You're so completely delusional it would be funny if it weren't so sad. March on moral soldier.

Chinese manufacturing can be of amazing quality. From what I hear, Ganzo is good quality for the money.

It doesn't change the FACT that they are THIEVES.

I don't care where something is made, just the quality of the product AND the quality of the business.

You come to a place where people are passionate about knives and you support companies that rip off honest people's work. You won't make many friends here, and the ones you do make I would be ashamed to have.
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Exactly. My guess is he has no plans on sticking around, this thread is due to expire soon anyway.

Then we can look forward to seeing his next thread "why I love ganzo" lol Another gem of a thread.
 
Let's start making knives. We'll patent the liner lock, the frame lock, the back lock and blade detention. I'd also like to copyright blades having an edge. We'll build them with the tears and hopes of Chinese children, but said tears and hopes will be put together in the US. Sounds like we could charge 400 for our innovate entrepreneurship at the very least. 400 what? We'll see.
 
Tom1983 said:
Let's start making knives. We'll patent the liner lock, the frame lock, the back lock and blade detention. I'd also like to copyright blades having an edge. We'll build them with the tears and hopes of Chinese children, but said tears and hopes will be put together in the US. Sounds like we could charge 400 for our innovate entrepreneurship at the very least. 400 what? We'll see.
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Bizarre...
 
I owned BM with axis lock for a short period of time. No issues, I just ordered the KSF Stryker 908-1501 and I'm super stoked about it. I support BM and I do not buy copies, counterfeit knives.
 
JR88FAN said:
It's 2016 and we have a wonderfully functional global economy that's making all of us rich just like they said it would....it's "homage" not original, not stolen, but an "homage" to a great design.

Synonyms in the knife community:

Stolen/Counterfiet/homage/intellectual property theft/patent infringement/copy.
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Lol, " homage " is an elderly homie.
 
SpyderPhreak said:
Well thanks to this thread, I'm ready to turn over and go back to sleep! :thumbup: My ignore list also grew by two entries! :) :rolleyes:
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Haha. I was also 2 down by the time I got to this page.

*Eta: I am not copying you. This thread heavily inspired me. :D
 
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