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[DocJD]

If a Benchmade or any brand of knife for that matter has obvious unacceptable flaws, then in my opinion it is crap that should not be sold. It is very unfortunate for everyone when a seriously flawed knife makes it into the end users hands at full retail price. It can and does make some people very angry, and that is never good for business!

Back in the dark ages before internet commerce became dominant , the last and most important QC inspection was often done at the store by the consumer before purchase . Poor QC at all levels is a major problem and not just with cheap stuff . I usually make a point to return defective crap even when it's really more trouble than it's worth .

 

[JJHollowman]

I think for the money the brand is fine. I dunno, I don't get upset or even send back a knife if it isn't perfectly centered every single time at a lower price point. I'll tinker with it, but as long as there's no actual rubbing it doesn't bother me. Same with liner locks. If the bar isn't correct, I'll bend it a bit, carefully, and that usually fixes the problem. I don't find these to be huge issues and something anyone willing to can usually fix at home, or at least close enough. At about $100 I get much more picky. I'm also more picky in the sub-$100 range if it's a brand I expect better of, like Cold Steel, with the pickyness increasing the closer to that $100 it gets. I understand there's likely to be small, fixable issues with any knife at $20, especially some discontinued models. Does that mean people shouldn't send it back for those things? Not at all. If you're dissatisfied for any reason that's your call, but I'd advise that if you're looking for something you can bet your life on, the $20 bracket is probably not where you wanna be . I don't ever sell knives anyway, so that probably has a lot to do with why its just not that big a deal to me but if i did I wouldn't figure a $20 knife as an investment, maybe a pot sweetener at most.

 

[danbot]

Back in the dark ages before internet commerce became dominant , the last and most important QC inspection was often done at the store by the consumer before purchase . Poor QC at all levels is a major problem and not just with cheap stuff . I usually make a point to return defective crap even when it's really more trouble than it's worth .

If a manufacturer doesn't get called out on poor QC issues, they won't be inclined to attempt to fix problems that don't seem to exist.

Why do you suppose Benchmade gets raked over the coals so badly by people that have received a sub-quality knife? It's because they are NOT cheap! Many people have come to expect poor quality from the cheap crap they purchase. That's why they can just kinda write it off as "It was only $20 anyway". Not realizing that they didn't even get $20 of value to begin with. But when they perceive something to be worth much more than the $20 they paid for it, they are quite happy to overlook those sometimes glaring issues that would send them right over the edge if it was a $300 Benchmade.

 

[craytab]

Benchmades are in the hundred plus range and a minimum so asking a dealer to check over $100 knife is not an unreasonable request especially when they're known for bad QC. How this compares to a Chinese $20 knife and requesting that same level of QC inspection be done is absurd. I'm sure you could request having it done all day long whether a dealer actually follows through is another question. I would bet dollars to Donuts that a request like this would consist of picking the first box from the top of the pile. For me the point is moot as the knife is no longer in stock where I originally purchased it and I'm purchasing it from another "dealer".

What is absurd is you are still trying to argue this point when multiple long time members with lots of experience have explained to you that it is perfectly reasonable to request a reputable dealer check over a knife, even a $20 one. I ordered a kershaw Emerson from kc over the summer. I asked that the grind and action be checked. It was and the knife came perfect.

But whatever. Don't take sound advice, no skin off my nose. What people, especially new people, should know is that your opinion is the outlier here. Most don't agree with you and have experience to back that disagreement up.

 

[craytab]

Your post is very reasonable why would you get bashed? The dealer that I ordered from is out of stock and I did communicate with them prior to the return. I'm getting refunded and purchasing from another vendor.

He made a very similar post early on in the thread and was bashed and called a liar.

 

[panoz77]

He made a very similar post early on in the thread and was bashed and called a liar.

Do you have anything to contribute other than matchlighting and trolling in this thread?

I didn't have time to read this entire thread.
I could get the same thing at a gas station or flea market. There ARE better choices for most knife users in the same price range.
Use your knives in good health!

His two posts you mention are rather contradictory of each other. One he says they are flea market knives for the junk drawer, in the other post he says they are pretty good for $20-30 except for one bad one he had.

The Dreadnaught, the Partisan Nano and the Spiraling Demise are certainly acceptable in the $20-$30 range for those looking for larger, heavier knives in the Chinese Kershaw and CRKT realm. Personally, most of them are beefier and clunkier than something I'd chose to carry but for some knife users they can make an OK beater knife.

 

[craytab]

Do you have anything to contribute other than matchlighting and trolling in this thread?

I'm just explaining to you why he might feel he would be bashed. He already was for giving a differing opinion, as was I until a mod stepped in and stopped it. Seems you missed that post as you continue to not discuss the topic but rather make personal insults and accusations.

 

[gadgetgeek]

Do you have anything to contribute other than matchlighting and trolling in this thread?

His two posts you mention are rather contradictory of each other. One he says they are flea market knives for the junk drawer, in the other post he says they are pretty good for $20-30 except for one bad one he had.

Pretty good is a long way from "acceptable" or "OK Beater"
Lets not argue over who misrepresented who.... But seriously man, re-read yesterdays posts.

 

[craytab]

Do you have anything to contribute other than matchlighting and trolling in this thread?



His two posts you mention are rather contradictory of each other. One he says they are flea market knives for the junk drawer, in the other post he says they are pretty good for $20-30 except for one bad one he had.

Um no, they're just about the same and he got flamed for the first one. Go reread.

 

[panoz77]

I didn't bash him for either post, soo....I'm not going to argue over semantics. Not sure what your point is other than again to stir shit. Calling out your bating and trolling in this thread is not name calling.

 

[Boru13]

Tired of all the reports from this thread... we are done here.