Bad Survival Advice Makes Me Wonder...

I think the point the poster was trying to make was that people expect folders to be fragile (or at least more fragile than fixed blades) as folders are already weaker by design (they fold and are not one continuous piece of steel). Therefore users don't subject them to extreme hardships likely to cause them to break.
However people expect fixed blades to be super tough because they are one continuous piece of steel and often subject these knives to stresses beyond their carrying capacity.
And of course there will always be 'tards that will be able to break anything they get their hands on because... well they are 'tards.
Even a Busse can be destroyed if a sufficiently "skilled" user comes along.
:D
Of course I am not talking about "destruction tests".
Thats consciously setting out to test the limits/breaking points of an item for scientific/intellectual reasons.
I personally find destruction tests to be both incredibly cool and sad at the same time.
The 'tards i'm talking about are the ones who do ridiculous things to knives and then are shocked/surprised when they break.
I. E " d'uh i can pry apart these two 1000 pound concrete blocks with my peanut. Snap! Darn why did that happen?"
(We're talking Darwin award kinda people)
lol!
 
This discussion will be like "who Killed JFK and why?" ...
...eternal
I studied a dozen multitools and as many here/ already know what knives are useful in survival scenarios. In my long search for a multitool that makes sense in the woods, I could find none that would make the weight/value 'cut'. The only rationale I concluded with was:
Off the shelf Mora is hands down the most useful knife in it's class, especially considering weight. If there's a lot of gear in the scenario (packs, rope, etc) then my needlenose Mini Vice Grip is THE ultimate Mora companion on treks. Not one, but two separate tools. I came close to falling in love with the Kershaw Multi-tool but it's too heavy to be a good performance/weight ratio, so it was nixed. Besides, I damn nearly pinched my fingers too many times with it.
In all honesty, if I had to choose between an knife and a pocket water purifier, the pocket water purifier would always win.
Keep in mind that our ancestors used a flint Axe HEAD for everything, before the concept of the knife even entered the picture. That's even before they discovered fire.
Finally, I mean no disrespect but if was being paid by a sponsor to 'sell' knives or multitools for survival, I would not say a thing about water purifiers..

Water is the New Oil.
 
Moodino said:
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Keep in mind that our ancestors used a flint Axe HEAD for everything, before the concept of the knife even entered the picture. That's even before they discovered fire.
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Assuming you don't mean my Uncle Adrian, who used a chain saw for everything, it's hard to know 100% what was going on back then. I have read that both "old" and "new" stone age sites have lots of shards more suggestive of flint razor blades than axes. Reconstructionists think they used small shards as scrapers and cutters. Flint can take as fine an edge as steel - or finer.

As for fire, . . . . . . . :confused: I think Adrian discovered the chainsaw after fire.
 
Also keep in mind that as soon as our ancestors had a chance at steel knives, they dropped their flint stuff in the nearest midden.
 
FoxholeAtheist said:
Also keep in mind that as soon as our ancestors had a chance at steel knives, they dropped their flint stuff in the nearest midden.
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Then again . . .

Obsidian
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . . .

Color Black, gray, dark green, red
Fracture Conchoidal
Mohs Scale hardness ~ 5 to 5.5
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Obsidian is a type of naturally-occurring glass formed as an extrusive igneous rock.
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Because of the lack of crystal structure, obsidian blade edges can reach almost molecular thinness, leading to its ancient use as projectile points, and its modern use as surgical scalpel blades.

[D]eposits can be found in many other western US states including Arizona, Colorado, Texas, Utah, and Idaho. Obsidian can also be found in the following countries: Armenia, Turkey, Italy, Mexico, Greece and Scotland.

Historical use

Obsidian arrowhead.Obsidian was highly valued in certain Stone Age cultures because, like flint, it could be fractured to produce sharp blades or arrowheads. Like all glass and some other types of naturally occurring rocks, obsidian breaks with a characteristic conchoidal fracture. It was also polished to create early mirrors.
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Current use

Obsidian is used in cardiac surgery, as well-crafted obsidian blades have a cutting edge many times sharper than high-quality steel surgical scalpels, with the edge of the blade being only about 3 nm wide [2]. Even the sharpest metal knife has a jagged, irregular blade when viewed under a strong enough microscope. When examined under an electron microscope an obsidian blade is still smooth and even. One study found that obsidian produced narrower scars, fewer inflammatory cells, and less granulation tissue in a group of rats.
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skammer said:
100% right. Primitives still today upgrade steel as they gain access through trade.

Skam
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yup

example of early traditional fixed blade :
stoneknife1.jpg


these kinda knives did a lot of work , the skill is not inthe blade so much as the user when you look at what it was used to acomplish ...
 
and this was because they had small kinda fragile knives ??

thats a stretch :)
 
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