bark river 3v tang

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2TONYB said:
This thread stinks to hell. In OP's first BF post, he mentions that he has regularly researched knives using this site. So, the OP should have been aware of at least some corrosion properties of 3V and A2 (this is where I learned the properties of A2 and 3V prior to buying my 2 bark river knives). Yet, OP only realizes something is wrong when watching a youtube channel and a reviewed knife corrodes or discolors less than his own. Then the OP creates a BF account in July 2013 to raise an issue, but never offers a shred of evidence. OP's only posts are in this thread. OP has his own alleged evidence that he has decided not to share. The xray possibility became a story of it's own. The phone call story makes no sense. No pics at all???? No corrosion pics??? Nothing??? A crappy story...that's it???

I call BS. When undeniable evidence is presented, I'll delete my post.
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Well, to be fair it was just yesterday that he said that he was going to a local tech shop and remove the handle completely and will post it here first hand to show if it is stamped 3v with an A2 tang.

I'm willing to give him a few days to make this happen before I call BS. Of course, he is pretty deep in now and I don't see how he could fake something like that. He'll either show up with proof or vanish. Either course will tells us the truth of this matter, IMHO.
 
got knife? said:
Since everyone is been itching to get an update.

So I did a video showing my brkt "3v" being x-rayed. Here's the thing. With a help of my colleague we realized that if we upload the video showing my works various x ray equipments and the hospitals name I'm looking at a lawsuit from them and ofcourse I will loose my job. Keep in mind that the video will go viral and someone will notice it. I work at an x ray lab where everything has to be pathogen free. Even if I say I wiped the knife with alcohol before getting x rayed, who would believe that?

I just want to prove my claim and let you all know that it's not a FAKE. I'm going to a local tech shop and remove the handle completely and I will post it here first hand. Stamped 3v with an A2 tang.
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Wrong. You can easily edit out the hospitals name and not include the tags. What is a "tech shop"? I worked for a radiology company for a few years, everything I've seen from standard xrays to nuclear medicine to CT to PET & MRI scans is not "pathogen free". That is why there are tech assistants to clean up. In fact, the only "pathogen free" areas in a hospital is the surgical rooms, and even they are not sterile after procedures. I'm starting to smell something just ain't right. Nice try though, but I'm gonna have to call BS as well. :rolleyes:
 
Interesting thread. Interested in seeing pictures, going to have to inspect several of my BRKC knives. I have been very happy with them so far.
 
I agree with RevDevil. I'm a pharmacist and know pathogen free environments really well. I did a few rotations before getting my PharmD, where I spent a few days with radiology crew watching X ray, CT and MRIs. I was never suited up for a pathogen free environment. I wore my street shoes, no hair net, no shoe covers, or anything like you would in a pathogen free environment (ie surgery or pharmacy clean room). People came inside and outside the area, no positive pressure in those rooms to lower pathogens. Matter of fact the guys I spent time with loved to goof off and stick stuff into the MRIs etc for fun. They had various funny things in their offices they scanned.

As far as the hospital name goes, just don't show it, or block the name somehow. I'm hoping you can produce the video, but I'm kinda getting skeptical at this point.
 
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You can take a phone or camera picture of Xrays when they are on the screen (computer) or placed onto the light box for inspection, I know this for fact as we do it.

Evidence and hurry up as Youtube sent me here via Virtuovice.

Waiting, no more excuses !.
 
I had 4 Bravo 1, 2 in 3V and 2 in A2.
I sold the 3V ones. I know that BRKT doesn't do the heat treat themselves (Cliff Stamp? if I'm not mistaken) but the chipping on the 3V blades was just too much. And I know that it doesn't have to be like this because I also own a couple of Fehrmans and I've never had a chipping issue with them.
Another thing that annoys me, and I had that with all my Bark Rivers, is the fact that they just can't get their plunge cuts right.
I know that a plunge cut doesn't affect the performance of a blade but I'm a guy who appreciates symmetry and I should be able to expect a flawless looking tool when I paid +200 for it.
They say the grind is done entirely by hand. That's nice but it still looks (sometimes more, sometimes less) messed up. Do the rough grind/plunge cut grind with a machine and finish the edge by hand.
I can live with a not perfectly fitted handle when it's a natural material, the rest is not acceptable.
 
glubse said:
I know that BRKT doesn't do the heat treat themselves (Cliff Stamp? if I'm not mistaken)
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Where in the world did you get the idea that Cliff Stamp does anyone's HT? :confused: That's certainly a new one to me.

I'm 90% sure BRKT blades are HT'ed by Peter's... as are non-chippy 3V blades from many, many other manus and makers (including myself). Let's just say the HT is not the problem.
 
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james terrio said:
Where in the world did you get the idea that Cliff Stamp does anyone's HT? :confused:

I'm 90% sure BRKT blades are HT'ed by Peter's... as are non-chippy 3V blades from many, many other manus and makers (including myself). Let's just say the HT is not the problem.
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Peters, right. I wasn't sure.

And yes, let's say that the HT IS in fact the problem since I, like I said, don't have that problem with a Fehrman 3V Peacemaker (which even has a narrower edge angle).

I'm aware that we don't know each other but trust me when I tell you that I know the basics of handling a knife.
 
Trust me when I tell you that I know the basics of making a knife, and how to not foul-up a perfectly good heat treatment. ;)

What I'm saying is that the blades are not chippy when they leave Peters. BRKT grinds their blades after hardening, and yours is a very common complaint with their blades. The weakness at the edge seems to be caused by over-heating due to aggressive grinding/grinding without cooling. There are dozens if not hundreds of discussions about all your points on this forum and others.

Anyway we're drifting way off topic in a dead thread, started by a member who got himself banned, that really should have been closed long ago.
 
you're right. The thread is dead and BRKT should really change the way they handle some things in their shop.
 
glubse said:
BRKT should really change the way they handle some things in their shop.
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I'm not holding my breath on that. Frankly, I sort of hope they don't. The people who love their knives still love 'em, and the fact that there's a great deal of room for improvement is good for the competition ;) Kind of a win-win situation, really.
 
Excellent video on YouTube by Doc aka Virtuovice entitled 3V Bravo 1 Inspection, he shows X-Ray's if both A-2, and 3V, Bravo 1 Tangs.
 
Nothing to see here, folks. Just another necro post. Seems the OP was just another new, low post count "lurked for years" member with a clever name stirring things up expecting a pile on. It happens all the time and we keep rising to the bait.
 
GronK said:
Nothing to see here, folks. Just another necro post. Seems the OP was just another new, low post count "lurked for years" member with a clever name stirring things up expecting a pile on. It happens all the time and we keep rising to the bait.
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Is it? Or did he get banned before he could post the evidence? I for one would like to know. Seems pretty odd that he got banned right before he was going to post evidence. We all know Bark River is a shady company ran by a shady crew. There are many posts showing their true colours, not to mention their poor grinds. Too bad your average knife guy doesn't do forum research or I bet BR would be out of business. O well, I will never buy a knife from them now that I know their past. I will make sure everyone I know doesn't either. Bad companies usually nail their own coffins, just give it time.
 
Tachead01 said:
Is it? Or did he get banned before he could post the evidence? I for one would like to know. Seems pretty odd that he got banned right before he was going to post evidence. We all know Bark River is a shady company ran by a shady crew. There are many posts showing their true colours, not to mention their poor grinds. Too bad your average knife guy doesn't do forum research or I bet BR would be out of business. O well, I will never buy a knife from them now that I know their past. I will make sure everyone I know doesn't either. Bad companies usually nail their own coffins, just give it time.
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Please refrain from putting words in everyone's mouth. That is your opinion and many do not agree. Further, the new guy who bumped this thread and the other should really consider reading the rules he agreed to follow.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/announcement.php?f=746&a=98
 
GronK said:
Thank you for demonstrating my point.
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What do you mean by that? BRKT fan boy I take it? I don't know if this is the case or not but, I find fan boys never like anything negative said about the companies they have invested their hard earned money on. Even if there is mountains of evidence to prove they are a shotty and/or dishonest company.

People start threads like this to inform or warn others so they don't get bitten by the same snake so to speak. I for one think that it's how a company handles the problems and issues that shows their true colours and I appreciate people bringing these issues to light.
 
I've owned two BRKT knives, both of which I won in drawings on their forum. Not my cuppa. I traded off one and gave the other away. I can border on fanboyism when the subject is Spyderco or CRK but definitely not for BRKT. On the other hand I regularly see posts by new (ish) posters trying to stir up a pile on. The paranoid voice in the back of my head wonders if they are all by the same person who manages to get back with a new name to continue his/her attention grubbing. Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean it doesn't happen!
 
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