Well, it's his house, and over there he makes the rules. Notice he hasnt come over here to defend his position. And, he even makes a reference to this thread in one of his comments, so we all know he is aware of it. The fact is, he doesnt have a case to present. He jacked this guy for his money, and if the guy ever -does- get paid back it'll be when a court orders it, or when Mike feels like it.
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Well, it's his house, and over there he makes the rules. Notice he hasnt come over here to defend his position. And, he even makes a reference to this thread in one of his comments, so we all know he is aware of it. The fact is, he doesnt have a case to present. He jacked this guy for his money, and if the guy ever -does- get paid back it'll be when a court orders it, or when Mike feels like it.
Great, …sell ‘em off, …I’m always interested in good deals on quality knives. :thumbup:
I’ll be watching to for sale section know more the ever.
You have already bought some from someone who couldn't stomach Mike anymore.
I sold all mine off when he told me that he cut Knifeworks off because Roger was selling them to cheap.
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He will most probably pull another Blackjack....and pop up in a year's time as "John Dollar" the CEO of "Mississippi River Cowboy Cutlery" or something.
.....And the knives will look remarkably like Marbles and Barf River products......
Perhaps he will be really daring and actually use his real name.....
.....And the knives will look remarkably like Marbles and Barf River products......
Perhaps he will be really daring and actually use his real name.....
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I think I may own 5 Bark Rivers out of over 600 knives and I never met the man (he did answer some questions I had on some Bark River knives and some other knives) and I sure don't know about his business dealings. I don't have an interest in trying to paint him as a god or devil. But after reading 17 pages of complaints and name calling on a forums that he isn't even a member of (at least I couldn't find him listed as a member) I question why would anyone expect Mike Stewart to post on BF and why did SnarlSlayer (only 4 posts - all in this thread) even post on BF? I'm not trying to be a smartass... just wondering.
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The reason for posting on Bladeforums is probably to let as many people as possible know what happened. To get the information out there. It really doesn't matter if Mike is a member here or not. I certainly don't expect Mike to post in this thread.
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Mike is a thieving coward. he wont post here
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Originally Posted by nick-nack
Im also a little taken back by the response of the members on the other forum, every time SS posts a comment stating facts all he gets back is -
"Boring"
"Please turn out the lights and lock the door when you leave"
"Yatta,Yatta,Yatta - g'night "
I think that's almost funny. It seems THEY are doing over there the mirror image of what YOU are doing over here: holding a one-sided conversation. But of course OUR conversation must be right.
Why would Stewart want to come here to argue with 9 pages of people already opposed to him?
Neither Stewart nor Youell are spending much time on this thead because they have a business problem to solve. Like diplomatic negotiations in the newspapers, doing business in public would not accomplish much, except for annoying the lawyers.
Popcorn, anyone?
Originally Posted by nick-nack
Im also a little taken back by the response of the members on the other forum, every time SS posts a comment stating facts all he gets back is -
"Boring"
"Please turn out the lights and lock the door when you leave"
"Yatta,Yatta,Yatta - g'night "
I think that's almost funny. It seems THEY are doing over there the mirror image of what YOU are doing over here: holding a one-sided conversation. But of course OUR conversation must be right.
Why would Stewart want to come here to argue with 9 pages of people already opposed to him?
Neither Stewart nor Youell are spending much time on this thead because they have a business problem to solve. Like diplomatic negotiations in the newspapers, doing business in public would not accomplish much, except for annoying the lawyers.
Popcorn, anyone?
I wish I had known about Mike Stewart's charcter issues before I bought four Bark River knives as business gifts last year. Well, better late than never, I guess - the owner of the company I work for was so impressed with the BRKT knives that he was planning on having me order 10 or 12 knives as Christmas gifts for some of our vendors... I'll GUARANTEE you that knife order will no longer be for BRKT products.
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Well, Esav, where there's less censorship, I expect to find more truth, and BladeForums is the only forum community I trust to really get to the truth of the matter, on any matter related to knives. Do you actually think that the whole Strider fiasco would have been brought to light on any other forum (not counting any forums owned and operated by the people responsible for initiating the initial investigation)? I'd like to tip my hat to Spark, for providing us a forum where knife people can actually discuss and debate subjects that affect their hobby/profession, and they can do so without fear of seeing their posts deleted and themselves banned!:thumbup:
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Bladeforums does promote open discussion. There is no such thing in this context as a discussion that is too open.
But do you think this discussion is really a discussion, with any chance of a real dialog? After all, WE must be right, being US, so listening is a waste of time. But isn't vitriolic repetition a waste of time also? Some participants here come across as deranged, jumping in, cursing, and dropping back out. I guess it's a pep rally, though, so no harm, no foul.
Where is Mr. Youell?
But do you think this discussion is really a discussion, with any chance of a real dialog? After all, WE must be right, being US, so listening is a waste of time. But isn't vitriolic repetition a waste of time also? Some participants here come across as deranged, jumping in, cursing, and dropping back out. I guess it's a pep rally, though, so no harm, no foul.
Where is Mr. Youell?
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I do hear what you're saying, Esav, and am pretty much in agreement with your assessment of the dynamics of this thread, but I do think it is still a 'discussion.' Some subjects by their very nature are destined to become 'mega-threads,' with pages upon pages of non-informative posts in between, but by the end, they usually find their way back to the crux of the issue.
As to where Mr. Youell went, I do not know, but I'd be willing to bet he'll be back. During the Strider and Dwyer 'outing' mega-threads, the OP, Bubbanumber1, was known to come and go, and sometimes there were several pages posted in between. Let's just hope this one doesn't make it anywhere near the 100 + pages that "Strider Knives Game Over" did.
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3G
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(There is a big diffeence between them, though. Mr. Youell is a known factor, a businessman with a name and address. Bubbanumber1 was an untraceable username with no discernable motive.)
Esav,
Relax mate - I suspect that this thread will not get very much older.
Mike may just start to realize that he has stepped on a rattlesnake, so Mr. Youell may just get his money back sooner rather than later.
If not, stand back and watch the fireworks......
Relax mate - I suspect that this thread will not get very much older.
Mike may just start to realize that he has stepped on a rattlesnake, so Mr. Youell may just get his money back sooner rather than later.
If not, stand back and watch the fireworks......
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Relax, Dirk, it's not bothering me. It's business. But a few people here have trashed their own credibility. The pretense of a great moral crusade is not well-served by the rhetoric they've used.
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Well, from the days when I owned my own machine shop, if someone paid me for producing a product, I made it for them and delivered it within the time frame specified, I really didn't care if they could sell it or not. Sometimes I knew something wasn't going to work and told them what I thought, but if they wanted to go ahead with it anyway, they got what they paid for.
Bottom line, he got paid UP FRONT (which I never had the pleasure of), he should have made the knives. Who cares if SS could sell them? Like I said before, if he was worried about BRKT's name, he could have simply contacted SS and offered to refund the money, or stipulate that if he was to go forward with it, he wasn't going to put any BRKT markings on it, and did not want SS using the BRKT name in association with the knives.
This happens a lot in business. Companies will often sell to other companies the same products they male under their own name, and the other company simply isn't allowed to use their name on the products.
Re: Where is Mr Youwell. . .he said many pages ago he wasn't going to post again until this was resolved or Dec 31st passed with no refund.
Re: The difference between this thread and the one on KF. . .with a few exceptions, people here are giving reasons as to why they support or don't support BRKT in this. Even the ones trolling have reasons. It's much more disappointing on the other forum to see respected (formerly) and skilled individuals doing nothing but personal attacks and taunting. It'd be much more understandable if they shot SS down with facts, or even well-reasoned opinion, but none of that is offered.
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