Bark River has taken $16,000 of My Money

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MRpink said:
Agreed, Derrick is a great guy and has helped me out in the past when I was tight on money. I will definitely get him back by buying many future knives from his store. I really like his take on the whole situation too. :thumbup:
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Since he is the largest online retailer of Bark River I would say he has a vested interest in the reputation of the company.
 
JTR357 said:
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.....nobody cares what you think..."mate":rolleyes:
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He wasn't talking about you.

That's kind of obvious.
 
after reading most of this thread and reading enough of the conversations posted on line between steven and mike on another forum (which turned out to be lies made by mike stewart), all i can say is that mike stewart is a lowlife thief and after steven gets his money back, mike should be put out of business.
 
:yawn: This thread is longer than the Bible so I did not read it all...but Ill say this from 10th grade business law..

Breach of contract. That is for sure.
 
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MrPeabody said:
Snarlslayer is better off this way, he gets all of the money back more quickly than if he were stuck with the knives and what appears to be no way to sell them.
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And this is where your argument falls apart.

Problem number 1:

Mike Stewart is selling the same knives twice. He has already sold them to SS for $16k, and now he wants to sell them again to other distributors.

Problem number 2:

Whether or not SS would have made a profit or a loss reselling the knives is irrelevant. What is relevant is that SS has lost the opportunity to make a profit.

There is little doubt in my mind that Mike Stewart is in the wrong here and I can understand why SS took this to the community rather than to the court. A small dealer who is already out $16k would be struggling to front the costs for a lawsuit.
 
Holy shite...

Don't post here often 'cause I'm no expert on sharp and shinies (but I do like da pretty pictures..)

I've followed this topic on three different forums now, and have come to a couple of conclusions:

1. Knife groupies and fan-boys are some scary shite... Man, when you kids drink the Kool aid, you guzzle. Listening to MS followers, you'd think the man should be canonized. Talk about a twisted cult of personality. Their rabid defense of MS and personal attacks on SS have been truly pathetic..

2, MS is an arrogant POS. His responses on his forum basically amounted to him admitting he breached the contract, that he felt his opinion of SS was more important than his word, and that he would pay SS off when he felt like it, but before a judgement could be entered. (I got the impression this guy has been involved in litigation before, ya think?)

3. God Bless the Rat Boys, Scotty G, and rest of the decent folk making sharp toys,,,uhm, tools for the rest of us...

4. I'm starting to lose my desire for that red micarta Aurora I've been lusting after...

G
 
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richard j said:
after reading most of this thread and reading enough of the conversations posted on line between steven and mike on another forum (which turned out to be lies made by mike stewart), all i can say is that mike stewart is a lowlife thief and after steven gets his money back, mike should be put out of business.
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+1,2 and 3

After reading all of Mike Stewart's little speeches on how he is a man of honor for the last 2 Years on the other forums I was believing this may be the case.

What a crock of BS.

All the Mike Stewart defenders on this issue are just plain disgusting. :thumbdn:

All of you who say Steve should have not made this public are disgusting also.
The man was screwed out of 16k plus more since he won't get the knives he paid for. He confronted Mike About it. He waited and waited but got nothing except for empty promises and a empty wallet.

I hope Mike Stewart is sweating now and will do what he needs to do on this issue which is to refund Steve his money.
 
Big Mike said:
The Fact is that no posts have been deleted, and the thread has been made a “sticky” for all to read.

Not being privy to all the facts, I will not comment other the to say that this disgruntled knife dealer joined the BladeForums Community with the sole purpose to flame a knife maker.

Bad form in my opinion.
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Not to be rude, but the definition of "flame", is to slander, make false statement concerning someone or something, for the express purpose of creating a negative image/attitude of said person/object.

The proper term to use would be that SnarlSlayer made this post to stir reluctance among his peers on this site to deal with BarkRiver, in the hopes of causing reduced sales to affect Mike stewarts' decision to with-hold the monies owed him.

If he says that he has evidence (such as the signed agreement), and the evidence is verified as true, then he is not "flaming", merely making a statement of events that HAVE occurred to him. Furthermore, sueing due to breach of contract is a legal course of action the complainant is allowed to take.

I am not for either side in this matter, just trying to clarify the matter. My only personal statement is that I hope both sides can resolve this expeditiously and to the satisfaction of both parties.

I thank Snarlslayer for informing us of how his own personal experience with BRKT has gone, and will consider it in any possible future dealings I have with the company.
 
SnarlSlayer,

Over the past several years, I have found Mike Stewart and Reid Hyken to be every bit the scumbags that you have.

They have even stolen my identity to open an account.

I am persuing legal actions.

Ever wonder why people in the industry call them the Michigan Knife Mafia?
 
joe-bob said:
SnarlSlayer,

Over the past several years, I have found Mike Stewart and Reid Hyken to be every bit the scumbags that you have.

They have even stolen my identity to open an account.

I am persuing legal actions.

Ever wonder why people in the industry call them the Michigan Knife Mafia?
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Mike finally found a mediocre sheathmaker who he could manipulate after years of stiffing "real" sheathmakers like Oklahoma Leather, Adirondack leather, G-Code Kydex and many, many others. Seems like they deserve each other completely.
 
joe-bob said:
SnarlSlayer,

Over the past several years, I have found Mike Stewart and Reid Hyken to be every bit the scumbags that you have.

They have even stolen my identity to open an account.

I am persuing legal actions.

Ever wonder why people in the industry call them the Michigan Knife Mafia?
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Most people in the industry shake their heads and wonder how he keeps finding fresh meat after all these years of the WORST reputation in the knife business.
 
For as long as the owners of knife related forums allow these scumbags to participate, moderate and in some cases dictate, they will abuse their positions and worst of all - have credibility.
The key to their survival is manipulating forums and selling themselves to the folks who are members.
I for one, will NOT support a forum where these people are allowed to be in positions of power.
It is not just one person that has been screwed by this mob, just read this thread....and that is just those who are speaking out.
How many more are there?
How well known custom makers of repute can participate on forums where they have a presence is beyond me.
 
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Several times I thought about buying a Barf River knife:D, but something always told me not to. I was looking at some of the pictures of Bark River knives in a thread a while back and something odd came to my attention, which I think may have been answered in this thread.... Some of the supposedly carbon steel knives were obviously well used, but showed no signs of staining:confused: Not that I like staining...it just seemed odd
 
Barb-B-Q said:

I agree with Ren. If indeed Mr. Stewart balked on the agreement, he owes the money back immediately.
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And he owes the money back with interest.

I have known Mike for some time and he makes a fine product. He is also one of the most knowledgable knife makers on the market. This does not excuse this business deal. would just say that his product speaks for itself, his business ethics are a whole other matter.

I will add this much, I learned a lot about the way the knife business is around the world via conversations with mike. He definitely knows better than to do what he has done here.

I hope it all works out well.
 
Glad I hadn't ordered a bunch of them already.

I had been drooling over bark river knives after seeing some of the great photos some of you take.... very pretty.

The sheaths, 2006 sketch website and strange forum based production schedule make a little more sense now.

Thanks.
 
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