Bear Grylls strikes again !

all i know is, anyone who grabs a big 'ole heaping handful of FRESH elephant dung, and
commences to squeezing it's juices straight into his mouth is pretty gnarly in my book!

...isn't that one of the tests for the SAS Merritt badge, or something?

ugly machete.
 
74656 said:
21 SAS (R) Artists Rifles is the SAS, soldiers in 21 wear the SAS beret and stable belt, and are members of the SAS. The clue is in the name.

21 SAS is in no way equivalent to your National Guard, they are part of the UK Special Forces reserve, this is totally different to the US National Guard.

Bear Grills was in the SAS, he passed SAS selection, for you to say anything else is totally wrong.
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You just do want to keep bringing this up.

Selection for 21st is tough. However, it is not the same as selection for regular SAS since it does not take place over six continuous months as the reservists are weekend warriors.
Da Bear did not attempt, or pass, regular army SAS Selection, nor does he expressly claim to have done so. Only his fans do so.

As for the U.S. National Guard, you have perhaps thought that was intended as a slight. It was not. I respect the service of our National Guard Special Forces troops as I respect the service of the UK's reserve special forces troops:
U.S. Army Special Forces is divided into five active duty (AD) and two Army National Guard (ARNG) Special Forces groups. Each Special Forces Group (SFG) has a specific regional focus. The Special Forces soldiers assigned to these groups receive intensive language and cultural training for countries within their regional area of responsibility (AOR).[32] Due to the increased need for Special Forces soldiers in the War on Terror, all Groups—including those of the National Guard (19th and 20th SFGs)—have been deployed outside of their areas of operation (AOs), particularly to Iraq and Afghanistan. A recently released report showed Special Forces as perhaps the most deployed SOF under SOCOM, with many operators, regardless of Group, serving up to 75% of their careers overseas, almost all of which had been to Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Either way, the knife seems like garbage. When reviewed the pommel flew off after using for a couple of minutes.

I've noticed from this thread and another that a lot of the Bear fanboys are also Nutnfancy fanboys. Coincidence?
 
Thomas Linton said:
You just do want to keep bringing this up.
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Erm, no this is the only time I have brought it up as far as I am aware.

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Selection for 21st is tough. However, it is not the same as selection for regular SAS since it does not take place over six continuous months as the reservists are weekend warriors. [/QUOTE]

Yes it is very tough, but I have not seen anyone on here say it is the same as regular selection.

Da Bear did not attempt, or pass, regular army SAS Selection, nor does he expressly claim to have done so. Only his fans do so.
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My issue is with this claim, which you made earlier in the thread.
da Bear was never in the SAS. He was in a "territorial" unit, equivalent to our National Guard. He never tried to pass "selection" for the SAS. That means he honorably served his country - just not at any time in the SAS.
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Bear Grylls was in the SAS, he was a member of 21 SAS, he passed UKSF (R) selection and was badged as a member of the SAS. He wore the SAS beret with SAS beret badge.

It is disingenuous to say that being a badged member of 21 SAS is not the SAS, the clue is in the title.
 
Somebody did a hands on pictorial review on the BG survival knife.. THEY ARE PIECES OF CRAP. You get what you pay for, its a novelty.. thing fell apart in the review.. You want a cheap knife, then buy it. I find it amusing on a knife forum, people are looking at mass produced crap like this.. plenty of good/quality knives in the ''cheap'' range if you can't afford to save up for something that will last.. whatever, enjoy the chinese made plastic trendy knives at will, carry on =_=
 
My favorite part of this BG collaboration is that they used "High carbon steel"...

Really? What exactly is "high carbon steel"...?:foot:
 
pitdog said:
Gerber has been going for years and while I'd never say they were a top class product they do offer reasonable value for the money.
Not everyone on here can afford the best of stuff and we have to make do with what we can afford.
While much of Bear Grylls show is staged you can't deny the fact that the guy has still done a damn sight more in his life than most of us ever will.When I eventually climb everest, make numerous parachute jumps and join the SAS then I'll start knocking Bear as well...maybe !:D
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Probably the best post in this thread.

I like some of the BG stuff and actually like the color scheme as well.
 
74656 said:
Bear Grylls was in the SAS, he was a member of 21 SAS, he passed UKSF (R) selection and was badged as a member of the SAS. He wore the SAS beret with SAS beret badge.

It is disingenuous to say that being a badged member of 21 SAS is not the SAS, the clue is in the title.
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It's deranged to try to put down BG's service to his country in a way that implies someone who climbed Mt. Everest is somehow a whussy. Hate clouds logic.
 
bladerique said:
You imply it every time you run down the man's military record, but most of all, you imply he's a liar, which is worse. And yes, the day you climb Mt. Everest, I'll be a fan.
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If you find Mr. Grylls' service in the reserves discreditable, that's on you. I don't. On the other hand, Mr. Ryan's questioning of Grylls' record is very public (and Ryan has not been sued.). http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/58803/Why-SAS-hero-Ryan-cannot-bear-Grylls/ If you find Ryan is a creditable source because Ryan has has emphatically been been there and done that . . . . .

It is interesting that HM Forces now describe Grylls' service as follows:
It is questionable where he [Grylls] served with the regiment as there are too many duty rumours.
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http://www.hmforces.co.uk/careers/articles/748-bear-grylls Unhappy with that language? Take it up with HM Forces. I have no idea why even they cannot sort out the "rumors."

His dishonesty about his program seems beyond question.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-470155/How-Bear-Grylls-Born-Survivor-roughed--hotels.html

The quality of the behavior he exhibits as a "survival expert" is also remarkable, and has been remarked upon. http://range.wordpress.com/2007/08/31/arctic-explorer-tina-sjogren-slams-bear-grylls/ http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?41553-Edward-quot-teddy-bear-quot-Grylls.
 
Thomas Linton said:
It is interesting that HM Forces now describe Grylls' service as follows: http://www.hmforces.co.uk/careers/articles/748-bear-grylls Unhappy with that language? Take it up with HM Forces. I have no idea why even they cannot sort out the "rumors."
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Of course that is just a website called HM Forces that has nothing at all to do with the British Army, Ministry of Defence or UK Special Forces.

They cannot sort out the rumours because they have no clue what they are talking about.
 
74656 said:
Of course that is just a website called HM Forces that has nothing at all to do with the British Army, Ministry of Defence or UK Special Forces.

They cannot sort out the rumours because they have no clue what they are talking about.
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Shocking lack of brand protection!

So they are wrong unlike Ryan? Not unlike Ryan?
So don't leave us hanging. Surely (I know, don't call you Shirley.) you can supply a link to an official confirmation that Ryan is wrong. It is physically possible that Ryan is wrong about the Bear despite Ryan being a decorated SOS hero.

Not that helps the blueberry-pancakes-in-the-hotel-while-supposedly-stranded-alone-in-the-wilderness problem.
 
Thomas Linton said:
Shocking lack of brand protection!

So they are wrong unlike Ryan? Not unlike Ryan?
So don't leave us hanging. Surely (I know, don't call you Shirley.) you can supply a link to an official confirmation that Ryan is wrong. It is physically possible that Ryan is wrong about the Bear despite Ryan being a decorated SOS hero.

Not that helps the blueberry-pancakes-in-the-hotel-while-supposedly-stranded-alone-in-the-wilderness problem.
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Bear Grylls was in 21 SAS. The UK MoD do not pass comment on special forces personnel either past or present. Why would there be official confirmation that Ryan (not his real name) is wrong.

If you have a look around the internet I am sure you will find plenty of people who were formerly in 22 who will happily state that Ryan isn't the flavour of the month with the regiment. All this goes to show is there is backbiting in special forces just like normal life.
 
Ryan says BG said he was on an "operation" in Africa. Gryllis said no such thing. This has been gone over and blown out of the water earlier in this thread.

One can "serve" [Gryllis language] w/out being on a mission, or operation. It's called training. BG was apparently parachute training when there was a chute deployment problem and BG hit the ground hard, breaking bones.

Ryan was looking for publicity for his new show when he made the inaccurate [or possibly even dishonest] attack on Gryllis.

Case closed.
 
sheesh.

i aint gonna knock Bear Grylls.

sure, i find his style a little overboard, but he's doing positive things by encouraging people to get outdoors more. i think it's fair to say he's given me some ideas and advice i rekon could come in handy.

the arguments/rants about his military service are faintly revolting. if he hadn't done what he claims in the voice-over on his show, the MoD would have smacked him down hard.

i was very disappointed with the reports on the initial BG knives. i was actually hoping they'd be a quality piece of gear. i thought it was a well thought out little kit for someone new to the outdoors. if only they were available in plain edge.

if the issues have been sorted, i may well get one for kicks. Gerber makes reasonable equipment. perhaps not in the same class as Fallkniven/ESEE/Busse/etc, but for the price, by and large Gerber makes a serviceable knife.


edit: anyone done a review on the new ones yet?
 
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