Bear Grylls strikes again !

Okay,First off I find Bear Grylls show entertaining,second I think maybe
he goes overboard on some of his stuff.But what i do like is when i go into my favorite army surplus
stores i see more people getting prepared or learning to be prepared, I do believe we owe it to Survivorman
and Bear Grylls for giving people a kickstart.And yes I did buy the Bear Grylls fixed blade and the folding sheath knife.
I love the folding sheath knife it is light ,sharp and cheap letting me keep my Sebenza pretty;) as for the fixed blade I bought to go into my
mountain bike Camelback Mule due to light weight and soft stainless of by the way I called Gerber the steel is 7Cr17Mov in the 440a range of blade steel
I have re profiled and sharpened the non serrated area I batoned 4 2x4 and no
problems the edge was pretty beat up but a few passes thru my redi edge and
was a good as new.

I plan on testing this spring/summer mountain biking making shelters etc.I really don't care about the knife snobs on this forum anymore.
My first lockback with a knockoff buck it served me well in the late 70s in boy scouts.Yes I own a lot of knives to include several Chris Reeve,Spyderco,Benchmade.Honestly I'd rather beat up a 60- fixed blade made in China than my 480.00 Sebenza.
 
sambo. said:
sheesh.

i aint gonna knock Bear Grylls.

sure, i find his style a little overboard, but he's doing positive things by encouraging people to get outdoors more. i think it's fair to say he's given me some ideas and advice i rekon could come in handy.

the arguments/rants about his military service are faintly revolting. if he hadn't done what he claims in the voice-over on his show, the MoD would have smacked him down hard.

i was very disappointed with the reports on the initial BG knives. i was actually hoping they'd be a quality piece of gear. i thought it was a well thought out little kit for someone new to the outdoors. if only they were available in plain edge.

if the issues have been sorted, i may well get one for kicks. Gerber makes reasonable equipment. perhaps not in the same class as Fallkniven/ESEE/Busse/etc, but for the price, by and large Gerber makes a serviceable knife.
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best post in the thread, and i completely agree. :thumbup:
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
I was addressing the comment, and this thread. Who are you again?
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You were doing more than that. ;)

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Anyway, I forgot to address this bit of sleight of hand:

Thomas Linton said:
http://www.hmforces.co.uk/careers/ar...48-bear-grylls Unhappy with that language? Take it up with HM Forces. I have no idea why even they cannot sort out the "rumors."

It is questionable where he [Grylls] served with the regiment as there are too many duty rumours.
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22 SAS is known as "The Regiment". BG hasn't claimed he was 22 SAS. I haven't read rumors that BG served in 22.

They key of this dishonesty posted by Thomas Linton is he leads you to believe that "The Regiment" means the entire SAS, but in reality it only refers to 22 SAS. Again, BG served in 21, and on his show, often says "the army" or "special forces" when talking about his military time. Both are accurate.
 
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bladerique said:
You were doing more than that. ;)

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Anyway, I forgot to address this bit of sleight of hand:


22 SAS is known as "The Regiment". BG hasn't claimed he was 22 SAS. I haven't read rumors that BG served in 22.

They key of this dishonesty posted by Thomas Linton is he leads you to believe that "The Regiment" means the entire SAS, but in reality it only refers to 22 SAS. Again, BG served in 21, and on his show, often says "the army" or "special forces" when talking about his military time. Both are accurate.
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Excuse me, the 21st, in which he served, cannot be referred to by a British website as "the regiment" - especially in the contect of a question about where he served? So I am dishonest by quoting this British website because I must know this alleged special denotation and know the British site used the word inaccurately? You're trying too hard. Have some blueberry pancakes.
 
Thomas Linton said:
Excuse me, the 21st, in which he served, cannot be referred to by a British website as "the regiment" - especially in the contect of a question about where he served? So I am dishonest by quoting this British website because I must know this alleged special denotation and know the British site used the word inaccurately? You're trying too hard. Have some blueberry pancakes.
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did that website quote BG as saying he served "in The Regiment"? No. The website only addressed rumors that he did. You use dishonesty and reach for bullcrap to try to discredit Gryllis military career.
 
Hi! I post on the internet. I am overweight, carry a folding knife to the grocery store, and sometimes go camping in the designated camping areas. I take an ENTERTAINMENT show too seriously and think I am better than Bear Grylls. He only climbed Mt. Everest, but I posted thousands of times on the internet.. indoors... from a padded chair.
 
minimize said:
Hi! I post on the internet. I am overweight, carry a folding knife to the grocery store, and sometimes go camping in the designated camping areas. I take an ENTERTAINMENT show too seriously and think I am better than Bear Grylls. He only climbed Mt. Everest, but I posted thousands of times on the internet.. indoors... from a padded chair.
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Dude, you obviously don't get it. BG got frostbite on Everest, therefore he is a whussy. And because his show is fun and silly, he must be destroyed.
 
Lots of people climb mountains. Most of those people cannot afford to climb Everest. Edward M. Grylls, born with a silver spoon in his mouth, was able to flit about in the Himalayas when most people would be working to earn a living. Great for him, but hardly worthy of any hero worshiping.
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
Lots of people climb mountains. Most of those people cannot afford to climb Everest. Edward M. Grylls, born with a silver spoon in his mouth, was able to flit about in the Himalayas when most people would be working to earn a living. Great for him, but hardly worthy of any hero worshiping.
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Nice. How many times you do it? Nice postcount btw. Bear is jealous.
 
Riddle me this, why is it everytime when someone brings up Bear Grylls
gear,knives,etc. it becomes a exercise in futility of arguing about the show.The original question was about the gear and what people thought of it,not about Bear's military background or exploits.I look at a clamshell package and judge all day until opened and tried, your opinion is meaningless.I HAVE both these knives, I HAVE tried them,Yes Pitdog I plan on getting the parang.I currently use a made in India kukri and a Smith and Wesson extreme survival kukri
I'm thinking the parang would be a good chopper for the money I love rubberized handles.

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As you can see I use my knives I'm not fat nor am I overweight.
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bladerique said:
did that website quote BG as saying he served "in The Regiment"? No. The website only addressed rumors that he did. You use dishonesty and reach for bullcrap to try to discredit Gryllis military career.
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Never said the site quoted Grylls.

To me sure of context, here is the language, verbatim:
He is best known for his TV programmes showing him being dropped into an inhospitable area and then using all his survival skills to survive. In 1997 he became the youngest Briton to climb a peak at Mount Everest.

Bear Grylls is also a mountaineer, promotional speaker and but he also served for three years in 21 SAS, the reserve regiment of the SAS.

It is questionable where he served with the regiment as there are too many duty rumours.
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I did not think that they were referring to any "regiment" other than the one they expressly mentioned - the 21st(R), contrary to your contention that they meant the 22d and I was "unfairly" twisting the quotation. The members here will decide.

But rock on. And do have some blueberry pancakes.
 
Now my only whine is I don't like clamshell packaging.You cant feel it check balance etc.My modest 19 years in the ARNG and at risk youth wilderness programs.Gerber has always done good by me.I carried a gator and multi tool for many years with a Spyderco endura as my tactical folder.I was at first taken back by their chinese made stuff but it is pretty good quality.What I like about the ultimate knife is it is similar to the LMF II but way lighter.as a oh crap I just broke my mountain bike and now it is become an unplanned camping trip I like the versatility that having the serrations gives me.The Camelback Mule I carry has a full survival kit plus water.So i don't want a heavy blade plus the sheath on it can take a beating if I fell off me bike.Unlike leather which can split
and probably end up shanking me.which would add one more problem to the equation.
 
Bear Grylls is not phony but he does host and act in a number of fictional entertainment survival shows for Discovery. I think that is part that confuses people. John Wayne was never in the military but people didn't have a problem with him acting in movies where the character is in the military. I did a series of real survival shows for Discovery and I found that the aversion to risk is pretty high in the entertainment industry. So now I do docos, books and consult to high level strategists.

As for his product endorsements. Bear used to put his name on a $700 knife with the resultant sales. Now he has decided to put food on his table by endorsing a wide range of consumer products with his likeness. Bear, like it or not is a celebrity and the public votes with their eyeballs and wallets. I don't agree with his choice to fictionalize and commercialize his career but then again I don't tivo his show or buy his products. I will give him respect for being badged and going for it. He is even bigger in the UK than the US. I think anyone would enjoy having a beer with Bear, Les, Ray, and all the rest of the TV survival folks. If nothing else they are an easy going, level headed lot. Although Charlie Sheen may be a good candidate for a survival show soon ;))

I don't know that he would actually kit out with his blisterpack survival stuff for a real recce tho:))


http://www.beargrylls.com/
 
"Bear Grylls is not phony but he does host and act in a number of fictional entertainment survival shows for Discovery. I think that is part that confuses people. John Wayne was never in the military but people didn't have a problem with him acting in movies where the character is in the military".

Well said,It's all about marketing,I for one do find it entertaining my son is 13 yrs old we watch it together.we look forward to seeing what weird thing he'll eat next or extreme situation he'll navigate.I know full well from the shows beginnings that it is for entertainment.What it has done is got my son interested and stay interested in survival.He can see the extreme some people have to take to survive.My son works out all the time he wants to go into special forces when he gets older but remember he is still 13;) no matter what people think about Bear he shows a positive role model for youth.look at all the sports figures that have fallen.show me 1 positive role model for youth that is mainsteam and famous.sorry got off on a tangent
 
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