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Yes, the OP should reinvent the wheel when there is plenty of existing evidence to support his position![]()

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Yes, the OP should reinvent the wheel when there is plenty of existing evidence to support his position![]()
The Mora firesteel is about twice the cost of the knife. that is crazy.@BladeHQ has the Basic 511 for right about $9 right now. The BG was out of stock because they're DCed, but I went with 'our price' on it.
And bingo was his name-oIf i did, I would use an axe and saw.
You asked why and then refused to watch the evidence provided. I completely understand not wanting to watch through a bunch of YouTube videos, but it's absurdly entitled to demand evidence, be provided evidence, then refuse to look at it while still insisting that you're owed some explanation. At that point it certainly looks like you're just demanding someone spoon-feed you rather than bringing up any real objection.jlauffer Actually yes, the OP should explain why they think the knife is “garbage” instead of relying on someone to come along and dump a bunch of YouTube videos and expecting all of us to watch all of them. The OP said the knife was garbage but didn’t state why. The onus is on the OP to make their case. You don’t agree?
You really think it isn’t possible to explain in a short paragraph why the knife is garbage? This isn’t YouTube, it’s a knife forum… where people write things. It isn’t a dumping ground for homework assignments like watching a handful of video clips.You asked why and then refused to watch the evidence provided. I completely understand not wanting to watch through a bunch of YouTube videos, but it's absurdly entitled to demand evidence, be provided evidence, then refuse to look at it while still insisting that you're owed some explanation. At that point it certainly looks like you're just demanding someone spoon-feed you rather than bringing up any real objection.
You asked why, multiple people answered in a variety of different ways and you continue to throw a tantrum because they won't do it in a way that you find acceptable. Hell, it was done in a single written sentence for you earlier in the thread.You really think it isn’t possible to explain in a short paragraph why the knife is garbage? This isn’t YouTube, it’s a knife forum… where people write things. It isn’t a dumping ground for homework assignments like watching a handful of video clips.
Why are you pretending it is really so difficult to write it out? I’m not “demanding evidence”, but I’m asking “why”. If YOU think a knife is garbage, YOU should be able to explain WHY. I’m not asking for a 15 page report. Just a summary. You probably could’ve effectively explained it to us in less words than you’ve used in your little beef with me you’re engaging in here.
Lol no one here is throwing a tantrum except the person having a meltdown because I won’t watch a bunch of YouTube videos and shut up about the knife.You asked why, multiple people answered in a variety of different ways and you continue to throw a tantrum because they won't do it in a way that you find acceptable. Hell, it was done in a single written sentence for you earlier in the thread.
Since you seem to struggle with reading replies I've collected a few for you explaining this.Lol no one here is throwing a tantrum except the person having a meltdown because I won’t watch a bunch of YouTube videos and shut up about the knife.
So again, I ask you:
Can you objectively explain why the knife is “garbage”? Or are you going to keep going with the “go watch YouTube videos” line? If you don’t want to answer because I’m the one asking, maybe someone else can ask you.
It’s a SURVIVAL knife that appears quite easy to BREAK.
Pretty sure it's the easily breaking. I don't particularly care how good the heat treat or steel quality is in my survival knife if it breaks in normal use.
I 100% agree. Something heavily marketed as survival knife with a name of survival icon on it should be damn near indestructible.
Blade shape is OK, if it was executed as Boker Plus Outdoorsman - there would be 0 complaints. And 50-60 or even 70€ would still be acceptable, especially if it comes with sharpener, ferro rod and manual in the sheath pack.
Plain carbon steel or Sandvik would be the way to go with that knife at that price range.
You still don’t get it, so this will be my last response to you: All knives will break if you abuse them, some break when you don’t. WHY the knife breaks is the root cause of the issue. Poor steel? Heat treat? Abuse by the owner? Something else?Since you seem to struggle with reading replies I've collected a few for you explaining this.
Maybe you could watch the provided videos and you would find out why. I'm not surprised that didn't occur to you, but here we are. Have a good dayYou still don’t get it, so this will be my last response to you: All knives will break if you abuse them, some break when you don’t. WHY the knife breaks is the root cause of the issue. Poor steel? Heat treat? Abuse by the owner? Something else?
I’m sorry but “Derr it broke, stop asking why” isn’t going to fly with me… and I’m a little surprised you seem to be bashing me for asking the OP to explain why the knife is garbage instead of asking the OP why they think the knife is garbage. Actually, no, I’m not surprised.. but that’s another story. Have a good day![]()
If the OP had included those videos in his post, his "onus" would have been more than satisfied, yet you admit that you won't watch them, so doesn't really matter who posted them. The evidence is clear, and like they say, a picture (video in this case) is worth a thousand words. Not the OPs fault you'd rather argue about it than see the proof for yourself.jlauffer Actually yes, the OP should explain why they think the knife is “garbage” instead of relying on someone to come along and dump a bunch of YouTube videos and expecting all of us to watch all of them. The OP said the knife was garbage but didn’t state why. The onus is on the OP to make their case. You don’t agree?
Exactly. I’d take it if I needed it. It has a fire starter and sharpener. Surely it will get the job done as long as people aren’t batoning with it.You may think this knife is a piece of shit, but I am pretty sure if it were the only knife on you in a life or death SURVIVAL situation you would do everything possible to make sure you babied it after all your life depends on it
The OP said the knife was garbage.If the OP had included those videos in his post, his "onus" would have been more than satisfied, yet you admit that you won't watch them, so doesn't really matter who posted them. The evidence is clear, and like they say, a picture (video in this case) is worth a thousand words. Not the OPs fault you'd rather argue about it than see the proof for yourself.
Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range. In case of Decepticons.It's got a whistle. What do you guys want?
This is true.You may think this knife is a piece of shit, but I am pretty sure if it were the only knife on you in a life or death SURVIVAL situation you would do everything possible to make sure you babied it after all your life depends on it
Exactly. You get what you pay for. Some people expect to buy a $20-$30 knife that says “survival” on it and act surprised when they can’t baton it through branches or split logs in half. It’s a gerber you can buy at Wally World, not an Esee Junglas. The sort of person that knife is marketed toward isn’t climbing Everest or hunting Kodiaks in Alaska.I watched them...
And I'll admit that the videos show a lot of breakage.
But if you buy into the marketing of a knife at that price: you'll spend a lot of time being disappointed.
I'm amused that after all this time and all these reviews this needs any explaining.The OP should explain why.
Only arguing against this particular position. But funny you should mention that when it's basically what you've been doing all over the forum when certain members are involved.If you’re just going to argue against whatever position I take, what’s the point?