Bear Grylls VS Les Stroud Knife Deathmatch!

Monofletch said:
Don't forget Bear's other knife--the good one!

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What knife is that? It looks better than the Gerber BG series.
 
I'm sorry, this is FAR too good to let go...

coping said:
Amazing how you all forget the ability to smash up a rock for a sharp and serated knife after watching these melo dramatic programmes.

I wouldnt ever use a survival knife to survival, ill use something thats wasteable and not make waste from a knife. Tramping can make use of blunt knives or sharpen a bit of sink lol.
You never know how long youll be stranded in some cases so looking for your best tool to make firewood or process hard hides means your an idiot. Use the disposable nature (stones).

Them monkeys got documentarys to sell equiptment or how to wastean edge in seconds when you may need it for couple weeks..

Survival knives are labelled to sell to uneducated, and misguided, rant over.

A manufactured Blades a last resort. When you gonna need that?
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So, let me get this straight... a smart person buys a knife(knives, preferably) in case they are in a survival situation, only not to use it when in said situation... THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE!!

Your ability to survive will ALWAYS be determined by the use of the tools you have available to you... Not using a tool at all is just as bad, if not worse, than misusing it.
 
coping said:
You can carry on pretending they are worth the value and impulse and just keep them in their boxes in the cupboard or leave them behind glass doors forever more, keep them in unused condition to re sell or trade in without too much loss
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Man, you have no clue at all about me.
Unused knives?
Selling or trading them off?:eek:

Speak sense, man!
 
gytheran said:
I'm sorry, this is FAR too good to let go...



So, let me get this straight... a smart person buys a knife(knives, preferably) in case they are in a survival situation, only not to use it when in said situation... THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE!!

Your ability to survive will ALWAYS be determined by the use of the tools you have available to you... Not using a tool at all is just as bad, if not worse, than misusing it.
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Well why would you use a knife to baton with, in bear grylls he goes straight to his knife, never seen him make flints for batonning etc.

Always use flints or scavanged materials and not your survival knive, or your decreasing your survival chances wasting your only descent tool.

Or. Take an axe and a knife and a saw.. not just a knife.

Unless you expect to need to *survive* for a day or less.
 
stabman said:
A "survival knife" is the knife you'll have with you, always.
For most of us, that means a folder, because you can carry them more places.
If you die because your knife wasn't a fixed blade, you were going to die anyway.
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I get the part about the knife most people have on them most of the time, but when I go into wilderness, that is not "most of the time."

As for the rest: If you die because you had a .22 instead of a .308, you were going to die anyway. 0___0
 
Thomas Linton said:
I get the part about the knife most people have on them most of the time, but when I go into wilderness, that is not "most of the time."
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Well, if going into the woods, then it would be the knife that I carry into the woods all the time.;)
Which would probably be in addition to the knife I carry all the rest of the time.:D
 
coping said:
No im saying people buy a knife pretend they use it and know all about it but later seen selling it bnib or lnib lol.
companys thrive of false claims to sell their naff for more due to someone claiming their a know it all.
Only helping the companys no one else, blindly
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Don't call him "blindly."
 
stabman said:
Well, if going into the woods, then it would be the knife that I carry into the woods all the time.;)
Which would probably be in addition to the knife I carry all the rest of the time.:D
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And that would be what knife (that doodles says you do not use blindly)? ^___^
 
Thomas Linton said:
And that would be what knife (that doodles says you do not use blindly)? ^___^
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Here's a few of me not using the Junglas, and a picture of a few other knives that don't get used. :)

Here's my friend sleeping in the thing I didn't build with the Junglas that doesn't get used:

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coping said:
When I said you, I meant the whole industry, the hobbyists in particular.
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Some do.
I remember all the saw-back survival knives in the 1980's which everyone had to get because they saw Rambo.
Those were the days, cheap 420 steel, wire saws that snapped in half, compasses that pointed the wrong way...and all for $5 at many drug stores!:D
 
coping said:
Well why would you use a knife to baton with, in bear grylls he goes straight to his knife, never seen him make flints for batonning etc.

Always use flints or scavanged materials and not your survival knive, or your decreasing your survival chances wasting your only descent tool.

Or. Take an axe and a knife and a saw.. not just a knife.

Unless you expect to need to *survive* for a day or less.
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My thought is that one problem with "flints", if this is referring to stone tools, is finding appropriate material (aside from the fact it seems like I'm much more likely to injure myself trying to make and use them, then using a good knife). You would need flint or chert nearby when survival becomes a need. Even if you have that, I'm unlikely to begin smashing rocks to make tools if I already have an appropriate tool with me. If you're talking about playing around in the woods, then whatever you decide to use is cool. If it's actual survival, then it seems a bit odd to think about stone tools if other options exist. The most reasonable survival scenario for me personally would be getting injured or lost in the wilds. Both have happened, but by the grace of God I made it out before dark. In the injury scenario, wandering around looking for flint wouldn't be an option. In the lost scenario, it's not realistic either. Most people won't give up until it's pretty much dark already. That's when you say "oh crap" and have to think about shelter and maybe fire. That's not an ideal time to hunt for that large ball of chert to work on. Call me silly and naive, but I'm going to go ahead a use my knife for whatever tasks I need done. If I've been smart and brought a fixed blade, it will be something strong enough like an ESEE. I have confidence that they can handle what ever I need done on a very long term basis. So I'm not worried about them suffering a catastrphic failure the first night. I also don't think most people "expect" to need to survive at all until the need is upon them, unless they're not really surviving but practicing survival. When this realization sets in, I imagine most figure self rescue will happen the next day. I'm not trying to start an argument, but the whole thing about people who use knives in an emergency being idiots and the idea of stone tools being a better option is odd. Take care.
 
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