Becker folder

[maxnharry]

By George, you have the Becker spirit! Simple, straightforward and hard working.

No, 440c isn't a whiz-bang super steel, and some folks look down their noses at it for just that reason. I, on the other hand, am a firm believer in the old adage of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," and 440C certainly isn't broken. There's a reason that it's been a popular steel for so many years: it works, and it works well. It takes a good edge, holds it relatively well, and it really is highly rust resistant.

I have an old Buck 112 in 440C that's still going strong, that's still razor sharp, after about 40 years.

What steel would actually be used wouldn't be up to me, but 440C is what I had in mind. There are other, newer steels available that might be better — I don't know, I'm not a metallurgist — but I had 440C in mind because it has a number of factors that make it a good choice for this kind of folder.

Other thoughts? I'd be interested.

Although the handles on the Retribution are nice, I don't think the handles on the Becker folder are really similar at all. I designed the Becker folder to have a "folderized" version of the traditional Becker handles, handles that have been in production for over twenty-five years.

As far as putting an opening hole in the blade (that was what you were talking about, right?), it already has a thumb stud for opening. Personally, I like thumb-studs better than I like holes. Thumb-studs can be more easily operated when wearing gloves than a hole can, and since this was designed to be a hard use knife — where many people might be wearing gloves for various reasons — the thumb stud makes more sense to me.

A final decision on that kind of thing would be up to Ethan and KA-BAR in any event. I can design 'em, but it's not up to me whether they get produced or not.

Well they should make one. I would love to have one. I wonder if KA-BAR doesn't do it to not interfere with the other folders that they make for their own name.

 

[dawsonbob]

Well they should make one. I would love to have one. I wonder if KA-BAR doesn't do it to not interfere with the other folders that they make for their own name.

Well, I think they should make one, too, and I would also love to have one.

That might be KA-BAR's thinking, although I seriously doubt that a Becker folder would cut into sales of their existing folders by any appreciable amount. The Becker folder isn't quite like any of the existing KA-BAR folders, so there shouldn't be any competition; indeed, the Becker folder could introduce a lot of people to KA-BAR.

ETA: I noticed that this is only your second post. Welcome aboard Becker forum in particular, and Blade Forums in general. This is a good place, with good people, and you can learn a lot here. Have fun.

 

[PayetteRucker]

There's a HUGE market for hard use outdoor folders right now. With the HEST folder coming out, RAT Cutlery has their own addition to the field. I really think this would be necessary, practical and marketable.

 

[dawsonbob]

There's a HUGE market for hard use outdoor folders right now. With the HEST folder coming out, RAT Cutlery has their own addition to the field. I really think this would be necessary, practical and marketable.

I think you're right, bro, and especially, I think, for companies like Becker and ESEE that have never had folders in their lineups before.

I've been following ESEE's upcoming folders, and they look really, really nice, while generating a lot of excitement. I think the same is true for the Becker folder, too. It's caused a lot of excitement already, and we don't even know if it's going to be produced yet.

Yeah, I'd say the market is there, and I think this would be a great addition to the Becker line. It's true that I might be a little partial to this particular folder, but, objectively, I really do think it would be a big seller.

 

[TheGame]

Since I will have a HEST folder, I would really like to see something like this as soon as it is possible. ESEE and Becker have been the only 2 names I have really followed for a while. Condor is coming on now, but they are different.

Becker folder and an ESEE folder and I would be 100% set in the folder market.

 

[dawsonbob]

Since I will have a HEST folder, I would really like to see something like this as soon as it is possible. ESEE and Becker have been the only 2 names I have really followed for a while. Condor is coming on now, but they are different.

Becker folder and an ESEE folder and I would be 100% set in the folder market.

I'm with you, Game. There are a lot of companies out there, but Becker/KA-BAR and ESEE seem to be the only ones that do it for me. For me, they have just the right mix of superior products at really good prices, and no BS customer service. In every case I've seen, if someone has a problem with a Becker, Toooj takes care of it. Period. I know that ESEE is pretty much the same way.

Yeah, I think Condor really is coming on now, but they're not quite there yet.

Me? I'm really, really partial to Becker/KA-BAR: they've earned my loyalty. I like all that they do; I like the way Ethan handles his products, and I like the way Toooj backs them up, too.

Their only flaw is that they haven't produced the wonderful-outstanding-magnificent-finest kind-truly great folder yet. Other than that, they're pretty good.

 

[insomnia]

cool idea.

(this needs to be at the top)

Kyle.

 

[Bladite]

Their only flaw is that they haven't produced the wonderful-outstanding-magnificent-finest kind-truly great folder yet. Other than that, they're pretty good.

you mean their other folders don't stack up, eh?

those FIN folders look mighty tough. doziers and phat bobs (hah) and more.

one of these days, they'll produce the folding Machax and THEN the truly great folder will be done, and all companies but KaBar can stop


Bladite

 

[dawsonbob]

you mean their other folders don't stack up, eh?

those FIN folders look mighty tough. doziers and phat bobs (hah) and more.

one of these days, they'll produce the folding Machax and THEN the truly great folder will be done, and all companies but KaBar can stop


Bladite

All others, no matter how great, aren't the same as THE Becker folder . . . not that I'd mind having some of the others, either.

I would imagine that the folding Machax would be somewhere down the road a bit, so other folders are safe . . . for awhile, at least.

 

[Bladite]

All others, no matter how great, aren't the same as THE Becker folder . . . not that I'd mind having some of the others, either.

I would imagine that the folding Machax would be somewhere down the road a bit, so other folders are safe . . . for awhile, at least.

i'm sure i'll be pretty happy with the at least 3-4 upcoming knives in the lineup.

even though *cry* it's almost still 1.5 YEARS until the new Machax. probably like 2ish come ON guys. i'm dying over here :> j/k. take your sweet time


Bladite

 

[CRKS]

A lazy Sunday morning, so I thought I would do a few more views.

Obviously, these just came out of my warped mind, and are not real.

Sometimes, though, a warped mind is a good thing.

Nice work. Are you using Pro Engineer or Mechanical Desktop?

 

[TimboKhan]

I am not a Becker owner, but I am a Becker fan. This folder looks totally rad. It would be a bigger knife, but there is a market for that. Buck's CSAR folder is not a small knife, but it isn't meant to be an EDC knife either. For that matter, the old tried and true Buck 110 isn't exactly small.

If Kabar isn't looking at this with at least some interest, they are fools. Get Ethan in on the design, make it here in the USA, market it to sportspersons, woodspersons and Marines, wallow in your piles of cash. Simple. While you are at it, put it in a similarly strong and simple sheath that can be placed on the belt or be lashable/MOLLE capable. A pocket clip would be nice, but not necessary. This isn't an EDC knife, so the pocket clip, while handy as a shirt pocket, just isn't necessary. As long as the cost is reasonable, I can guarantee without hesitation that I would buy one.

Also, for the exactly zero ladies I have seen on this thread, please enjoy my non-sexist language.

 

[dawsonbob]

Nice work. Are you using Pro Engineer or Mechanical Desktop?

Thanks, Tom. Those were just roughs, and were done with a combination of Illustrator for the vectors, then translated to Cinema 4D for the 3D work. Actual finish work would be done in my CAD program, which is far more precise.

 

[dawsonbob]

I am not a Becker owner, but I am a Becker fan. This folder looks totally rad. It would be a bigger knife, but there is a market for that. Buck's CSAR folder is not a small knife, but it isn't meant to be an EDC knife either. For that matter, the old tried and true Buck 110 isn't exactly small.

If Kabar isn't looking at this with at least some interest, they are fools. Get Ethan in on the design, make it here in the USA, market it to sportspersons, woodspersons and Marines, wallow in your piles of cash. Simple. While you are at it, put it in a similarly strong and simple sheath that can be placed on the belt or be lashable/MOLLE capable. A pocket clip would be nice, but not necessary. This isn't an EDC knife, so the pocket clip, while handy as a shirt pocket, just isn't necessary. As long as the cost is reasonable, I can guarantee without hesitation that I would buy one.

Also, for the exactly zero ladies I have seen on this thread, please enjoy my non-sexist language.

Thanks, TimboKhan. This is on hold at the moment. It depends on Ethan whether it goes any further. That's about all I can say at the moment.

 

[RABII]

I know if it's been awhile since I've visited I can count on you (dawsonbob) to have whipped up some visuals on a new concept knife!. I'm back home now. Been on a whirlwind tour of everything Busse(kin). But Becker and ESEE seem to be where my heart is. Sooner or later everyone comes home again.

 

[dawsonbob]

I know if it's been awhile since I've visited I can count on you (dawsonbob) to have whipped up some visuals on a new concept knife!. I'm back home now. Been on a whirlwind tour of everything Busse(kin). But Becker and ESEE seem to be where my heart is. Sooner or later everyone comes home again.

No matter where on BF you wander, it's nice to know that you can click your heels three times, say "there's no place like home," and find yourself back here on the Becker forum.

Sure, it's nice to go look at those "other things" once in awhile, but if you're into good, honest, no nonsense knives at a really good price, why, then, this is the place to be. Besides, the sense of community here is just great.

As far as new visuals go, there are some things in progress, but they're on a temporary hold at the moment. Hopefully there will be new stuff in the near future.

Welcome home.

PS. Wipe your shoes . . . you've got Busse dust all over them, and you don't want to track it all over our nice, clean, forum carpet.

 

[Bladite]

it will surprise me not at all if KaBar doesn't announce a folder design or two, and the reason they haven't spoken up at all is to keep confusion down to a minimum. heck, i'd bet a donut they have several models upcoming that they are just keeping mum about; too many other companies would just emulate them with inferior versions. as i said, confusing and muddy waters.

'course, that's just speculation, but sorta obvious speculation.


Bladite

 

[dawsonbob]

it will surprise me not at all if KaBar doesn't announce a folder design or two, and the reason they haven't spoken up at all is to keep confusion down to a minimum. heck, i'd bet a donut they have several models upcoming that they are just keeping mum about; too many other companies would just emulate them with inferior versions. as i said, confusing and muddy waters.

'course, that's just speculation, but sorta obvious speculation.


Bladite

It wouldn’t surprise me, either, if KA-BAR/Becker were to announce a folder or two. In fact, it would surprise me greatly if they didn’t. After all, they had mentioned a folder even before I designed the BK-2ish folder. I’m not sure what kind of folder, or folders, they will be, of course. You mentioned in an earlier post that Ethan really favored something along the lines of Chris Reeve’s Sebenza, so they could be something along those lines, although I have no way of knowing.

One thing’s for sure (in my very humble opinion), and that’s that they can’t very well not have a folder of some sort in today’s market. While the fixed blades may remain a mainstay for at least the foreseeable future, the market for Becker folders is just too large to ignore. I think the folder threads have shown that pretty conclusively.

While there are a certain number of folks that will buy any folder that comes out bearing the Becker name (we’re among them, I think), there has been a very strong interest in the BK-2ish folder shown on these threads. Why? Well, one reason would be that it says Becker on the blade. Beyond that though, is that it’s a big, beefy thing that — because of the blade and handle shapes — just screams Becker: you would think Becker even if you couldn’t see the name on the blade.

There’s a tremendous interest in this folder already. No matter what other folders they bring out, I think they should do this one, too.

I do understand what your reasoning might be for their keeping mum, and you may have noticed that I’ve stopped talking about the BK-2ish folder (for the most part), but I can’t help speculating either.

 

[GingivitisKahn]

This isn't an EDC knife, so the pocket clip, while handy as a shirt pocket, just isn't necessary.

Speak for yourself - I'll carry this thing with me to the shower IF they make it. Lol - I'd carry that frigger with me every day and everywhere.

Nice screen name, btw - we must be kin.

 

[BRL]

I want one of these.

That is all.