Benchmade 710 - No new axis spring for me.

My bro has a 710ats34 with square cutout in the liners thats still problem free. I have 1 with round cuts but ats from 4 yrs ago and another in HSS from 2 yrs ago. Problem free.

I think that Benchmade the company is against the user opening up the knife as a lawsuit precaution. Having the warranty void is just another stronger hint that u r not to dissamble the knife. And not selling parts is another hint to the effect.

Imagine someone opening a 710 to clean and accidently cut himself, goes to the emergency to get fix and meets with a lawyer looking for his big bonus.

I was sent some of the omega springs and pb washers after corresponding with the BM rep about the hassle of sending the knife back to the US. After getting the parts I wanted to post of the fact but was discouraged to do so. In fact there are some that has stated that they did get some parts with persistant haggling. So its not like its written in stone that u cant get parts. Just depends....
 
Gollnick said:
We've been through this again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and.....


What part of "disassembly voids waranty" do you people not understand?

Benchmade prints it in big, friendly letters right on the box, clear as day. Maybe they need to repeat it in brail for the benefit of some of you! It's printed on the package insert too. It's on their website. And anyone who's been around bf.c has certainly heard it.

Benchmade offers a life-time warranty. They will fix anything that goes wrong. They will fix it promptly. And they will fix it for free. But if you disassemble the knife, you make a considered decision to give that up. That's the deal. If you don't like that deal, then don't buy the knife.

If you make the decision to disassemble your knife, then you made the decision to give up your warranty. You know that. If you do it, then you have absolutely nothing to complain about. Please don't come here whining about the consequences of the decision that you made.

Here's another reason they don't support Do-it-yourself repairs: if you "fix" the thing but don't get it quite right and then the lock fails on you and you end up in the ER having your fingers reattached, you are you going to blame? Benchmade, of course! When it's their name on the knife and their reputation on the line, they want to be sure that the knife functions as well and as safely as possible so that if something does malfunction, it really will be their fault.

When you set out to purchase a knife, you usually have a list of features and characteristics you want, blade style, blade length, lock, opening features, pocket clip, lanyard attachments, materials, etc. If you specifically want a knife with a lanyard attachment point, and you find a knife that's really nice, but doesn't have the lanyard point, then you have to pass on that knife. It's not right for your specification. And what if you find a knife that meets all of your specifications except the lanyard attachement? Well, maybe you might want to reconsider you specifications. Maybe you can decide to do without the lanyard attachement? If so, then you have made a considered decision to accept this knife even though it lacks one of the features you wanted. Please don't come where whining about how you just got your XYZ123 and your really upset that it has no lanyard attachement point. You bought it knowing that. You decided to accept that.

Warranty is one of those characteristics. If you want a knife with a warranty that permits disassembly, then you should pass on Benchmade knives. As nice as they are, they're not right for your specification. And if you decide to buy a Benchmade, then you are doing so knowing full-well that it doesn't have the warranty you want. You have decided to accept that. Please don't come here after you've made that decision whining about it and blaming Benchmade for it.
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Alll things being equal. Benchmade is still remiss in creating an unreasonable
warranty. Just because they state The warranty is null an void , if you attempt some form of repair or routine maitiemence. I really doubt if you put the question before a jury and a judge. Told them the nature of the warranty
preventing the owner from doing even routine maitinence. I would guess that
a judge would come down in favor of the consumer. Im amazed out how blind people are , just because something is in black and white, they feel it is holy writ!!
 
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EGAD!!!! Make my 710 modded with different blades for 8 years trouble free!!! And I think I am up to about 20 axis and counting, including the big brute 610.
 
Gollnick said:
We've been through this again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and.....


What part of "disassembly voids waranty" do you people not understand?

Benchmade prints it in big, friendly letters right on the box, clear as day. Maybe they need to repeat it in brail for the benefit of some of you! It's printed on the package insert too. It's on their website. And anyone who's been around bf.c has certainly heard it.

Benchmade offers a life-time warranty. They will fix anything that goes wrong. They will fix it promptly. And they will fix it for free. But if you disassemble the knife, you make a considered decision to give that up. That's the deal. If you don't like that deal, then don't buy the knife.

If you make the decision to disassemble your knife, then you made the decision to give up your warranty. You know that. If you do it, then you have absolutely nothing to complain about. Please don't come here whining about the consequences of the decision that you made.

Here's another reason they don't support Do-it-yourself repairs: if you "fix" the thing but don't get it quite right and then the lock fails on you and you end up in the ER having your fingers reattached, you are you going to blame? Benchmade, of course! When it's their name on the knife and their reputation on the line, they want to be sure that the knife functions as well and as safely as possible so that if something does malfunction, it really will be their fault.

When you set out to purchase a knife, you usually have a list of features and characteristics you want, blade style, blade length, lock, opening features, pocket clip, lanyard attachments, materials, etc. If you specifically want a knife with a lanyard attachment point, and you find a knife that's really nice, but doesn't have the lanyard point, then you have to pass on that knife. It's not right for your specification. And what if you find a knife that meets all of your specifications except the lanyard attachement? Well, maybe you might want to reconsider you specifications. Maybe you can decide to do without the lanyard attachement? If so, then you have made a considered decision to accept this knife even though it lacks one of the features you wanted. Please don't come where whining about how you just got your XYZ123 and your really upset that it has no lanyard attachement point. You bought it knowing that. You decided to accept that.

Warranty is one of those characteristics. If you want a knife with a warranty that permits disassembly, then you should pass on Benchmade knives. As nice as they are, they're not right for your specification. And if you decide to buy a Benchmade, then you are doing so knowing full-well that it doesn't have the warranty you want. You have decided to accept that. Please don't come here after you've made that decision whining about it and blaming Benchmade for it.
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wow you're a wise arse!!! Of course one should be able to buy parts for the knife. Benchmade does not have a repair-branch in every part of the world. and shipping a knife over seas to get it cleaned is ridiculous and so are you.
 
lorise said:
wow you're a wise arse!!! Of course one should be able to buy parts for the knife. Benchmade does not have a repair-branch in every part of the world. and shipping a knife over seas to get it cleaned is ridiculous and so are you.
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Wow! Trying to get banned over a post made 5years ago?!
 
My Benchmade 710 has a broken omega spring too. I've only had it for 6 months. I'm not too thrilled, as this is my first 'expensive' knife. :mad:
 
Inverness11 said:
My Benchmade 710 has a broken omega spring too. I've only had it for 6 months. I'm not too thrilled, as this is my first 'expensive' knife. :mad:
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Not saying that there are no faults with them axis but do post some details on what happened and which model would be much appreciated.
 
I am thinking of getting a 520 sbk soon and wanted to know if anyone here has had any problems with corrosion on the omega springs or any problems with that model. Thanks.
 
No, not anymore! A couple of times i took the 806 with me jogging. I noticed some little rust on the steel liners beneath the scales after removing them. Not much.

Because of that, consider my 520: I removed the scales, put some grease on them and filled the space for the springs a little bit, than put the scales back.

Somehow the springs were bathing in grease and showered with militec from time to time.

My knives don´t see much sand or dust. In that case, grease may cause trouble. But for me everything is fine.

I would grease the scales once in a livetime and keep the knife dry and clean. Use some lube from time to time. That´s all you really need.

Sum up: Exept the grease on the liners, keep normal maintance like any other knife. No difference between axis or other locking system for me.
 
cpirtle said:
First, Benchmade will fix a knife that you damaged even if it is at your expense. No one has ever said they would not correct the problem. Even the issue with the broken back spacer, it broke while the person was taking it apart and BM was still willing to replace it. So you're wrong.

Second, They have no idea if you are capable of making said repair.

Third, I have yet to hear anyone who can tell me what knife company will send parts that are integral to the safety of a knife out for a person to replace themselves.

Spyderco - No
SOG - Nope
Benchmade - No
Chris Reeve - No
MOD - No
Microtech - Hell no

Until you guys can show me a company that will do everything you are asking your point is invalid, sorry.
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Spydero sells a parts kit with pins, backspacer, liners and washers for the Endura and Delica if I am not mistaken. And I am pretty sure CRK will send parts out for their knives if you ask them to. I don't really know about the rest. I do know that Microtech is not exactly known for their customer service.


Personally I am not too fond of Benchmades policy either, but I have never had a Benchmade break either, so it really doesn't come into play. Voiding the warrenty when you take apart the knife is just stupid IMO, even if they do advertise it in big letters. And not sending out parts is total BS IMO, but thats all it is, my opinion.

Personally like companies like Emerson, who actually encourage you to take apart their, knives, so you know how they work.

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Sorry, I didn't realize how old this thread was. Spyderco didn't make that stuff back then. Point still stands though. Benchmade should send out part. Maybe they do now, who knows, like I said, I've never needed one.
 
Well, this point (sending out parts) was discussed in the german speaking (better "writing") forum too, just because it is a half around the world way, for two little springs.

Benchmade, as i almaost always hear or experienced is very generous in that respect. Guys over here were getting new springs in most cases. I was getting a new knife for replacement without sending the defective back. OK, that was 2003, maybe that changed, but they were so, and i was reading things like that before and after.

Spyderco in that respect more often regrets warranty repairs, AFAI read.

It is absolutely ok not to warrant a knife, that has been taken apart. Because you don´t know, what was done to it and how. Those knives are very well assambled, but in deed not made for disassambly. Things can go wrong anbd why should Benchmade fix it for free?

Benchmade never asked about it. Well, i never hread or read they would. I guess it depends on the case. I wouldn´t like to repair a obviously "damaingetanced" knife.:D

I saved a topic about self made omega springs, i was taking my Benchmades apart and back (after a year or two i had them) and know or feel, they are of good quality. Those knifes are good with or without warranty.
 
The fact we are talking about Axis locks and springs etc... Justifies my reasoning in never buying one in the first place.

"Oh hail the perfect locking mechanism, perfectly engineered."

crock of sh!t. In 50 years if they are still funtional with no design change I will consider one. Not likely as I have seen one break and one foul up so bad with sand it jammed closed, it got destroyed during a repair attempt.

Skam
 
Well, so there is not much left than a lock back folder for you. Right?

BTW, are you driving cars and if so, which and how can you stay online with that point of view?

Well i guess there are better ways to come to an own decisionthan than relying on other ppls experience.

Of course, your point is a nice challenge. I hope, if i am about 80 years of age, i am still able to notice, what has happend to tha locking system.
 
If Benchmade is so against folks opening their knives, why do they sell
a kit that has all of the torx bits necessary to take apart their knives?:rolleyes:

It seems kind of ridiculous to sell you the necessary tools on one hand.
Then on the other tell you if you do, you void their warranty.:rolleyes:
 
Wow, original poster created this thread in December of 2002, resurrected by STR in October of 2005, and then RE-resurrected by Beowulf in January of 2008. That's a long life.
 
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