Benchmade Discussion without Politics or Insults

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shinyedges said:
Doesn't seem like a logical thing to do does it? It is amusing to watch some people keep talking here when the vast majority is laughing at them.
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We're not laughing at you man. We're laughing with you. . . . . . . . . Really!
 
Nobius said:
I think Benchmade needs to get out in front of this instead of hiding behind a single statement that says nothing. There's going to be a lot of prominent Benchmade users like Meateater etc that are going to be asked how they can use Benchmade products in light of these events. The NRA show is soon and Benchmade has a booth. It's going to be an ugly few days for them unless BM comes out, truly apologizes, says why those contributions went to anti-gun politicians, and make public documentation on any pro-gun contributions the company has made. Create a special edition knife ASAP where xx% goes to pro-gun nonprofits.
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Yeah, I just listened to Benchmade's response to The Gun Collective and I call bs. If Benchmade has provided millions over the last decade to 2nd amdt causes, they would have sounded off on some of them in that convo. Right off the top. Hell, if it were true, and they really cared, they would have prepared data to send to you TGC post haste (before or after your conversation). They sent nothing.

So, crossing state lines with your knives is a major problem for the knife industry? Such a major problem that Benchmade has NO CHOICE but to fatten the coffers (and by extension, efficacy) of rabid anti-2nd amdt politicians? I'm a business owner living in a blue state too ... but I didn't vote for HRC, let alone donate money to her or lawmakers of her ilk.

The truth is, Benchmade is either 1) a Democrat run executive teepee trying to pull the wool over their customer's eyes ... 2) are very gullible/indifferent people at the top ... or 3) a company that's made a hard, cold, utilitarian calculus.

Scenarios 1 & 2 need no further explanation (they equate to the same thing - Stupidity) ... but in scenario 3, Benchmade execs have greedily concluded that: The more guns are restricted across the nation, the more knives they'll sell across the nation (as many will grudgingly seek alternatives in response to curbed gun-rights). Hello knife industry ... meet the newly-stripped or confiscated gun owner. It's exactly what happened in Australia and the UK. The knife industry boomed for about 15-20 years before big brother came after it too.

The problem for Benchmade is, there's a massive crossover between gun owners and knife owners in America. They're the same friggen customers. If gun-owners were to find out that Benchmade were playing this (beggar-thy-neighbor game), it could destroy their business. This isn't over. I want proof of their millions of dollars worth of 2nd amdt corporate donations. Just sayin.
 
shinyedges said:
Damn it, I feel like I would have liked whatever you had to say. Though if it would have got you in trouble, probably best to delete it.
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I was veering into Oregon politics, personal liberties, and why freedom is worth fighting for...even on the small front (Read: Death by a Thousand Cuts).

It never ceases to amaze me how quickly some are willing to roll over.

I hope Benchmade course corrects publicly and survives this hot mess.
 
I just listen to Benchmade's response to the Gun Collective on Youtube. It doesn't fly.

Benchmade claims their donations to anti-gun politicians pale in comparison to those made for the 2nd amdt over the last 10 years. Really?
If Benchmade has provided millions over the last decade to 2nd amdt causes, they would have sounded off on some of them in that conversation with TGC ... right off the top. To drive home the truth of that. If it were true, and they really cared, they would have prepared data to send to TGC post haste (before or after your said conversation). They expounded on and sent nothing.

So, crossing state lines with your knives is a major problem for the knife industry? Such a major problem that Benchmade has NO CHOICE but to fatten the coffers (and by extension, efficacy) of rabid anti-2nd amdt politicians? Hmm. I'm a business owner. In engineering. living in a blue state ... but I didn't vote for HRC, let alone donate to lawmakers of her ilk. I can't even imagine myself doing that.

Boiling this down, Benchmade is either 1) a Democrat run company with an executive teepee trying to pull the wool over their customer's eyes re their true politics ... 2) a company with very gullible/indifferent leadership at the top ... or 3) a company that's made a hard, cold, utilitarian calculus.

Scenarios 1 & 2 need no further explanation (and they equate to the same thing politically from a 2nd amdt perspective) ... but in scenario 3, Benchmade execs have greedily concluded that: The more guns are restricted across the nation, the more knives they'll sell across the nation (as many will grudgingly seek alternatives in response to curbed gun-rights). Hello knife industry ... meet the newly-stripped or restricted would-be gun owner. It's exactly what happened in Australia and the UK. The knife industry boomed for about 15-20 years before big brother came after that industry too.

The problem for Benchmade is, there's a massive crossover between gun owners and knife owners in America. They're the same customers. If gun-owners were to find out that Benchmade were playing this insidious (beggar-thy-neighbour) game, it could destroy their business.

Official Statement, equivocations, and excuses notwithstanding, This isn't over. I want proof of their millions of dollars worth of 2nd amdt corporate donations.
Just sayin
 
mylest said:
I assume because you don’t know how. You’re trolling hard man. Don’t like benchmades? Why are you on their sub forum?
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We are here discussing their political betrayal of their own customer base. I thought you would be aware of that by now. We are familiar with their product qualities and customer service; so what? A lot of companies offer good products and customer service and many of those also respect and support their customers rights and our constitutional laws. If you want to continue to give them your money, then knock yourself out, but don't expect us to blindly follow your lead.

n2s
 
GronK said:
Imagine, passing up knives you like just because you're pissed at the company.
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Imagine standing up for what you believe in, rather than helping to fund things you dont.

That pesky freedom thing again.


I wonder if you really think belittling and trolling the customer base will actually help Benchmade?
They don't need us anyway, so why not get in few insults right?
 
Standard78 said:
This is worse than 2977 people losing their lives?

Get your head out of your ass.
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I get the feeling this dude was being sarcastic and making light of the situation that Benchmade supports anti gun politicians.

The fact he used 9/11 shows he has poor judgment and bad form to say the least. Foolish and disgusting.
 
Bad Ninja said:
Imagine standing up for what you believe in, rather than helping to fund things you dont.

That pesky freedom thing again.


I wonder if you really think belittling and trolling the customer base will actually help Benchmade?
They don't need us anyway, so why not get in few insults right?
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He can't understand something being so important that it supercedes our desire for a knife that is a luxury and good customer service.

You see the same lack of understanding from all of the people down playing the event. They just can't grasp that an unnecessary luxury item be passed up because the companies actions contradict our morals. That says world's about them.
 
Randy3000 said:
It is mind boggling that you are so assured of your position, to the point of belittling those on the other side, despite the ratio of people still favoring benchmade after their multiple blunders. Even within benchmade's subforum, you are in the minority. Outside of this subforum, the ratio is much more extreme. But of course, schadenfreude is all you are after.
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I’m not belittling anyone. There’s no reason at all not to keep supporting Benchmade.
 
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not2sharp said:
We are here discussing their political betrayal of their own customer base. I thought you would be aware of that by now. We are familiar with their product qualities and customer service; so what? A lot of companies offer good products and customer service and many of those also respect and support their customers rights and our constitutional laws. If you want to continue to give them your money, then knock yourself out, but don't expect us to blindly follow your lead.

n2s
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I’d expect people not to blindly follow a political party and boycott a quality product because of that. But that same philosophy will work in reverse and Benchmade will be just fine because of it so I’m not worried.
 
mylest said:
I’d expect people not to blindly follow a political party and boycott a quality product because of that. But that same philosophy will work in reverse and Benchmade will be just fine because of it so I’m not worried.
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The second amendment isn't a political party.

Integrity isn't a political party.

Benchmade supported specific people who are attempting to infringe upon rights of good law abiding Americans, and then lied repeatedly about it.

Remember, Benchmade made this political.
 
mylest said:
You’re asking the wrong person. I was well on topic. It’s a certain few that are distracting me ;)
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Just a suggestion bud nothing more, but I suggest you let these people continue their complaining as some of them are on a ********* list and you will lose. Also, continuing here may lead to increased blood pressure. Again just a suggestion and nothing more.
 
VincentV said:
but they seem to always be late to the party and giving the customer what they think they should have and not what they're screaming for.
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I can agree with that. Plenty of people have been wanting an M390 rift for quite some time now but I guess they’re not interested. Btw, you said you work in the CNC field? Would you be able to make a titanium bolster or is that too small quantity to be worth it?
 
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