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One of the first knives I purchased was a Griptilian Tanto, while it is a solid knife and the Axis lock locked-up better than a similar lock in my SOG mini Vulcan, the handle felt very cheap. The Enlan EL04 I just picked up for $15.50 shipped, feels much better in hand than the grip did. I am not talking about the quality of the axis lock or the blade material, but the feel in hand is much better with the Enlan. So I have to say I agree with the less than impressive feel of the valox handled BM.

I have been thinking about purchasing another BM in hopes that I will be happier with the feel of the knife. If you get this far into my post can you give me a few suggestions of BM knives that represent their best qualities?

The Adamas, Contego, Axis AFCK, Rukus are all solid feeling blades. If you want a serious slicer that feels solid yet cuts like crazy either onslaught sizes will fill the role, the onslaught tips are delicate though, no prying.
 
So you like knives that don't have smooth actions and are hard to close, makes sense. I assume by "that lock" you mean an axis lock, BM makes knives with other style locks maybe you should check them out or not. My butt feels just fine I'm no fanboy I only own one BM folder a 790 it snaps open quite well.

Smooth and loose aren't the same thing. Assumptions are funny things. :thumbup: I like smooth actions. If a knife literally drops after you disengage the lock, that's a lack of control, in my opinion. I personally have never worried about how fast a knife closes. Also, I didn't know that Spyderco, Kershaw, Emerson...oh wait any knife that doesn't have an axis lock, are hard to close and don't have smooth actions. Thank you for enlightening me. Anyway I am pretty fond of the Grip, and thus far the ones I've handled don't let go of the blade that easily when the lock is disengaged, so it obviously isn't an issue with every knife or even a particular style. However in that particular case, the handle does feel kinda cheap. I could easily see myself buying a Ritter Grip and getting some custom handles though.
 
Smooth and loose aren't the same thing. Assumptions are funny things. :thumbup: I like smooth actions. If a knife literally drops after you disengage the lock, that's a lack of control, in my opinion.

Tighten the pivot a bit if you don't want the blade to drop when the lock is disengaged, most pivots are adjustable. No knife with a pivot set to maximum ease of opening will have any bias toward staying open when the lock is released, not a liner/frame lock, back lock, bolt lock, etc(EDIT...aside from assisted openers).
 
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Then I guess the PM2, the ZT 0560 along with pretty much any bearing folder have a lack of control...

Pretty much. but that is just my opinion. To each their own. As a2d2 said, it can all be tightened up, so the lock specifically can't be blamed. I did say I saw too many users doing that, and that such looseness indicated a lack of control. All based on lock design, although that doesn't mean the lock is the reason they disengage like that. I'm a lockback/liner lock kinda dude, that's all.
 
Agreed. He doesn't seem to want to listen to anyones opinion besides his own. This thread should be locked, but I do say that about a lot of threads so maybe not.

Well...the Benchmade lovers are guilty of the same thing. No one is conceding the point, so why point fingers at a guy for arguing in favor of his point? Why does everyone get all worked up over it? Convince him, make him a believer. Don't just condemn his perspective and call him a troll. Some people want to be won over, or to win out with their own opinions vs others.
 
Smooth and loose aren't the same thing. Assumptions are funny things. :thumbup: I like smooth actions. If a knife literally drops after you disengage the lock, that's a lack of control, in my opinion. I personally have never worried about how fast a knife closes. Also, I didn't know that Spyderco, Kershaw, Emerson...oh wait any knife that doesn't have an axis lock, are hard to close and don't have smooth actions. Thank you for enlightening me. Anyway I am pretty fond of the Grip, and thus far the ones I've handled don't let go of the blade that easily when the lock is disengaged, so it obviously isn't an issue with every knife or even a particular style. However in that particular case, the handle does feel kinda cheap. I could easily see myself buying a Ritter Grip and getting some custom handles though.

As a2d2 pointed out loose is fixed by tightening the pivot that's a user preference. Assumptions are funny and I never said a word about Spyderco, Emerson, or Kershaw. My gayle bradelys blade will drop if I hold it edge down and unlock it and it is about as far from loose as you can get and is still very smooth, if i tighten the pivot up more it wouldn't but that would make it more difficult to open and close. Speed isn't the factor for me it is ease of use, I'm not really sure what you mean by control, if you let the blade drop that was your intention and you were in control of it, I don't close my knives in this manner but to each their own. I personally don't have an axis lock knife I prefer liner and frame locks of various brands, I find them smooth and very easy to close .
 
why does a guy with 22 post's make such a huge blanket statement? trolls do that kind of thing.

i have 4 benchmades and have owned about 10. they where all very solid. in my opinion the griptilian is solid and most people disagree with me. hande a 710, 940, 707, 420 or 810 and tell me they are cheep or weak
 
like ive said mulitple times i like all sorts of blades.ill try something several times ...buy...trade..sell..the point is bm handles and they way they grind the blade is shabby work.everone says try the osbourne..if i want a alum handle ill buy a protech.if i want g10 ill buy a spyderco. if i want plastic ill buy spyderco.if i want to piss away 200 bucks ill get a benchmade.....semper fi

ill have to disagree bm feels like lego plastic..other knives that use plastic feel better not so flimsy.if i was gonna spend the money i would stick to a better company someone who dosnt steal other companys trademark.

yeah i can give you some advice steer clear of bm.if you got the money look at a socom elite..par 2..sage..protech...selectfire...emerson....zt...houge...mcusta...strider....

I think I know who this guy is.

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Yeah, I went there. :barf:
 
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why does a guy with 22 post's make such a huge blanket statement? trolls do that kind of thing.

i have 4 benchmades and have owned about 10. they where all very solid. in my opinion the griptilian is solid and most people disagree with me. hande a 710, 940, 707, 420 or 810 and tell me they are cheep or weak

ok this troll just broke down an ordered a bone collector aginst my better judgement.hey but the good news it has hole.im gonna give it a shot but stay tuned ill pro have it for sell in a couple weeks.was looking at some of the autos but reminded me of this other companys knives.pt...............semper fi
 
ok this troll just broke down an ordered a bone collector aginst my better judgement.hey but the good news it has hole.im gonna give it a shot but stay tuned ill pro have it for sell in a couple weeks.was looking at some of the autos but reminded me of this other companys knives.pt...............semper fi

So with all the people recommending a bunch of nice BM knives they have convinced you to break down and buy yet another of the lower end BM knives, are you just trying to set your self up for disappointment. If you don't want to try a BM of higher quality then just stay away from BM there are plenty of other companies out there that you appear to like.
 
i have 2 benchmades and my snody grav feels like a tank while my 943 feels a little flimsy (mainly due to the heavy amount of bladeplay it has). But nothing about this company i would call cheap. They have great customer and their knives are quality! Heck i even have another one on the way and prefer them way more than spyderco!
 
yeah i see u may be a benchmade and becker fan.i wasnt trolling just my opinon.been in this hobby 30 years and ever benchmade ive picked up is cheap feeling kinda like a plastic toy.had a becker broke the second time in use.just saying for the money they want for those knives should be alittle better and lets not start about the edge on a bm.

I'd love to hear more about this Becker you broke on its second time out. :D
 
I have these benchmades:
CQC7
mini AFCK
An auto that I forget the model number ( Thin spearpoint side opening full flat grind. sharp as heck and opens with authority).
Stryker-Allen Elishewiczs design ( i know i spelled that wrong)
all of these purchased in the mid-late 1990s,
And my most recent,
Barrage 581
And none of them feel cheap.
John
 
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