BEWARE of Seth Rosen

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Couple things just dont sound right. Job-housing situation?? Really. Times are tough for us all- but comon man- you had me up until that point. 2- Bottom line though- The seller does know the difference between a production strider and a custom as per his holy BF "reputation" and the seller did in fact lend deception to the deal. Period. If you were seriously slandered enough to not obtain housing or a job though- which I don't buy-you would seriously have a case for legal action bro. It was a bad deal and you got your $ back- which is more then a lot of people.
 
I have seen, first hand, discrimination happen based on google searches, twitter, Facebook, ETC. Everything from sexual orientation, living situations, tattoos not usually visible, hanging with a bad crowd, ETC. It absolutely happens.
 
If somebody denied you housing or a job because of some name calling on the internet... you are probably better off for not having to deal with those people.

Edit: Sexual orientation listed by one's self and picture proof of negative actions and "hanging with the wrong crowd" from facebook is quite a different level of seriousness than some random name on a forum by someone.

On a side note though... I think your posting style of blowing everything so far out of proportion and dramatizing it is absolutely hilarious. Doesn't do much for your case of taking you seriously but I think it's funny.

I am a little wary that jbravo has not addressed the claims that he listed a production as a custom but I've never dealt with either of yall before so I really don't have much take on the issue other than what I've read. It would be nice to see some screenshots or proof of some of these claims from either side of the story but it might just be better to let it go at this point.
 
CR33 said:
Couple things just dont sound right. Job-housing situation?? Really. Times are tough for us all- but comon man- you had me up until that point. 2- Bottom line though- The seller does know the difference between a production strider and a custom as per his holy BF "reputation" and the seller did in fact lend deception to the deal. Period. If you were seriously slandered enough to not obtain housing or a job though- which I don't buy-you would seriously have a case for legal action bro. It was a bad deal and you got your $ back- which is more then a lot of people.
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I was fine with it, and felt no need to bash him publicly until I googled my own name and found this. I got my money back, he got his knife back, and I really don’t remember exactly what I said to him, but I don’t doubt I said some harsh words in retaliation, privately.

I was perfectly happy when I got my refund, but I felt the need to involve PayPal to help me. I did not think he would cooperate, but I did not know of his outstanding reputation here, as I was a clueless noob at that time. I felt wronged, and paypal made it right and I was done. Then, two years later, I find this, and I’m flabbergasted.

I would have never posted him in the Good, Bad, and Ugly, because I didn’t even know this part of the forum existed, and I felt like it was settled. I just want to get that straight that I am happy with the outcome of getting my refund, just not this public attack that I have been clueless of for so long.

Again, I don’t think I can prove the repercussions of this here, without further embarrassing myself. I’ve done that already enough. And proving it here, would do me no good, as this isn’t a court of law, and this isn’t a case under investigation by authorities. If it comes to that, then I will provide the examples and uncanny circumstances where it has kept me from progressing. Also, I think jbravo would enjoy my misfortunes all too much, if he knew how well his tactics actually worked. But yeah, they worked. Well played, jbravo. You really worked me over.
 
j3jymann said:
It would be nice to see some screenshots or proof of some of these claims from either side of the story but it might just be better to let it go at this point.
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Fine. I had to take two screenshots and this is the top half that I uploaded unedited. I am going to edit my address and his email and ebay id out of the lower portion, to protect our privacy. (the things that haven’t already leaked into the internet)

I will not edit anything else, but I guess you’d have to trust me - unless (hopefully) some tech-wizard can run a test to see where any edits have been made. I am just going to put a black bar over the sensitive info with photoshop...

Here’s the top portion of my payment to him (I used an eBay coupon I had...)

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I’m going to edit the lower half now, be right back...
 
Darn it, photobucket shrank the image... Let me find a better place that will host the original...
 
Hopefully this worked, this is the unedited top half of the screenshot:

I think if you keep clicking on it, you can see the original size.



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Gritter said:
That’s really hard to answer without getting really personal. I could explain in a PM, but I worry that it will “leak” and be on the internet forever. I could tell you about the problems I’ve had, being the reason i googled my own name to find this in the first place, but not without getting really personal, and I already feel violated. Then, I think people would say I was being paranoid and whining, etc. I can’t defend myself, so I give up. It’s not worth exposing all my personal info to prove anything to strangers.

If this went to court, yes, I think I could provide enough proof to show that I have directly felt the repercussions of my name having negative connotations in a google search for the past two years. I google search someone’s name before I date them. I would google search anyone that I was planning on hiring, or living with, or renting to. I cannot prove anything to you without violating myself, so deduce what you will. Sorry.
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Don't share what you don't want to, I don't need to know.

I just don't know how a BF complaint floating on the internet can be definitely tied to you. You could simply deny it (especially since the original dispute on eBay has been satisfactorily settled.)

As someone who has hired dozens of people for key company positions and also an owner of rental property, I can tell you that some blurb on BF wouldn't be considered by any HR personnel, nor by me when researching a prospective client. Unless it is you posting on Facebook about how much you like to take drugs at work, or sell drugs out of your home, it wouldn't come up.
 
And here’s the bottom half (Photoshop saved this file as a smaller file than the original screen shot (top half), so the image was able to upload at full size)

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Shrodinger's Cat said:
what's a 'custom' strider value vs 'production' or regular one?
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Like twice as much, but I didn’t know much about pricing at that time. I thought since it was used, I actually won an auction at a killer deal.

And sorry I don’t know how to upload the images the right size, if anyone needs the full size image, I can email it, or tell me how to host it properly. Thanks.
 
Shrodinger's Cat said:
what's a 'custom' strider value vs 'production' or regular one?
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I'm not an expert, especially since there are variations among even production models, but I have seen prices two to three times as much for customs.

This is a long-standing difference of opinion, because of the overlap of the terminology, people calling customized knives"custom". That's not even close. But where do we draw the line when mid-tech knives are made in-house by the custom knifemaker who originated the model? Just looking at a photo won't always tell you who did how much handwork.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
I'm not an expert, especially since there are variations among even production models, but I have seen prices two to three times as much for customs.

This is a long-standing difference of opinion, because of the overlap of the terminology, people calling customized knives"custom". That's not even close. But where do we draw the line when mid-tech knives are made in-house by the custom knifemaker who originated the model? Just looking at a photo won't always tell you who did how much handwork.
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Actually, it's pretty cut and dry. You wouldn't allow me to post a production SnG in the Custom's For Sale forum, would you? Nope. Because it's not a custom.
 
The problem with this back-and-forth argument is the lack of facts. The key evidence I would like to see is the text of messages sent back and forth. What exactly was promised? How was the complaint worded? What hostile language was exchanged? This is the basis for any judgement, and we have seen none of this. Names are easily redacted.

When I had a problem with a trader, the first thing I posted was the precise text of his messages.
 
I know this gritter guy types volumes whenever he speaks... but that picture right there showing the "custom handmade strider" title speaks volumes to me.

There's absolutely no doubt this guy is a drama queen, he admits it himself that he has gone overboard with these posts (I think he's funny personally but can see how it would get on someone's nerves)... but really, listing a production knife as a custom and then blasting somebody for being upset and bitchy when they found out it was production?

Yeah, I'm sure he went overboard and reacted ridiculously in personal messages and I'm sure things got out of hand but, would any of it have happened if the knife had been described honestly in the first place?
 
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CWL said:
Don't share what you don't want to, I don't need to know.

I just don't know how a BF complaint floating on the internet can be definitely tied to you. You could simply deny it (especially since the original dispute on eBay has been satisfactorily settled.)

As someone who has hired dozens of people for key company positions and also an owner of rental property, I can tell you that some blurb on BF wouldn't be considered by any HR personnel, nor by me when researching a prospective client. Unless it is you posting on Facebook about how much you like to take drugs at work, or sell drugs out of your home, it wouldn't come up.
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When can I send you my resume ;) :D
 
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