This is interesting. Hold on everyone. I hope I don't miss a part because there has been about 30 emails and various PMs sent about this. And frankly, it gets interesting.
I don't want anyone to get the wrong impression of myself or Les, so let me explain my view of the situation.
I posted an ad and Les sent me a PM with stated the following, "I have an Active Duty. New with Black Micarta & satin blade. It is a bit thicker than a BAD I think about .170, let me know if your interested."
Various PMs and emails later about me wanting to know if he had anything else I maybe interested and pictures of the knife. The knife looked lightish gray in the pictures, a bright white satin blade (the flash hit it and you can't see much of anything) and as he stated in the first PM. Les informed me that he brought it new from Busse and has not used it but has lubed it with a Tuff cloth, rubbing it down with oil.
This took about a week after the intial message and at that time I sent out funds via PayPal.
The knife was shipped and received one day later at the USPS. I picked it up the day after, went home and emailed Les that I received it. I then looked over the knife and washed it with soap and water, like I have done with multiple knives. After exmaination under bright light, I noticed scratches which would appear happened from a sheath and/or use. Plus, the edge is not the normal "factory" edge from Busse. It appears sharpened. I emailed Les, at that time informing him of my findings and questioned if the knife was new, if he has a Kydex sheath for it and if he sharpened it. I got another opinion from a friend of mine. He noticed the same as I.
Here is my email and his replies;
Les,
After washing and drying it appears you must have used it a bit? or do you have a Kydex sheath for it?
Regards,
-Nick.
Awesome, thanks. I will leave feedback on the transaction. Hopefully you can as well.
Best, Les.
It is exactly as received from Busse. Why?
Les,
The satin finish has clear signs of use and it appears it has been sharpened, it doesn't have the normal Busse "factory" edge. The finish has horizontal scratches on all areas of the blade (from the spine to choil to edge) as if it was used. Plus, there are marks around the choil area as well.
-Nick.
Nick, you are obviously not describing the knife I shipped to you. If you look at the pictures I sent, there is none of the use you are describing.....
That knife was MINT condition as shipped to you..
I really don't know what your trying to pull. I sent a MINT Busse to you. Obviously your not happy with it, and have likely "invented or added" some use to it.
What do you want from me? Do you want your money back? I would need the knife sent back to me.....
Let me know,
Les.
As soon as you confirm you will return the knife, I will refund your paypal money.
Les.
Les,
Easy now, no the knife is great and I didn't invent or add something to it.
I understand your point about the pictures. The pictures you sent had heavy flash, hence the reason you couldn't see the scratches.
I washed the knife with soap and water. I'm betting that the oil that was on the blade covered up the fine scratches. I'll see if I can get some pictures of the blade in the light so you can take a look.
Regards,
-Nick.
I didn't see any scratches on it at all (other than the vertical grind lines), but I have been advised to refund your money. Obviously your not happy with it.
As another member of BF stated, one persons Mint as received from Busse is another persons 98%. Or one persons 110% is equal to your 100%.
Needless to say, you need to be happy with it.
I apologize for my comments earlier. Lets get this straightened out. What do you want me to do? I will give you a full refund now, and refund your shipping costs if the knife is in the same condition as when I shipped it when it is returned to me.
You can then look for one your happy with...
Les.
Les,
See attached pictures. The pictures aren't great but hopefully gives you an idea. It looks like the knife was used and maybe slipped in and out of a Kydex sheath, plus a sharpening. The edge definitely looks polished with a fine grit stone.
I was under the impression that the knife was New as stated in your PM.
Thanks again,
-Nick.
I sent out pictures showing the problem at hand. If anyone wants to see them let me know.
More replies from Les.
I can't see very much in those pictures, but that is NOT the way I shipped that knife. There is absolutely no way I could have missed those HUGE scratches. You would have seen those in my pictures.
The only thing that was done with that knife by me is it was wiped down with a TUFF cloth, it didn't have a quarter inch of grease which is what it would have taken to hide scratches like those. And the edge was as shipped by busse. It wasn't dull and it wasn't sharp, it was a normal Busse edge.
I really don't know what to do at this point, as there is no way I want that knife back like that.
I will refund you a portion of your money back, and I will make it as high as 50.00 dollars just because.
Let me know what you want to do...
Les.
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8 minutes later I get an email stating a deal or options.
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NO, take that back.
I said I would take it back, and I will. I will give you a choice.
A. I will refund your full amount, you return the knife.
B. You keep it, and I will refund you 50 dollars of the cost.
Let me know if you would prefer A or B.
Les.
At this point in the transaction I had to go back to work and don't have a access to my personal account. I informed Les of this in a PM....
"Les,
I'm back at work and cannot access my personal email account. The best I can do right now is use the forum and PM.
With that said, are we still choosing between the two options? $50 or full refund? Depending on what your input is will depend on my pick of the options.
The knife was new and unsharpened when you sent it to me?
Regards,
-Nick. "
To make a long story short. I was informed that the knife was NEW, I received the knife and it was not. I questioned the shipper about use, sheaths and sharpening and I didn't get an anwser besides it was, now, MINT when it was shipped out. I even told Les that I would ship out the knife today, Monday the 25th, because it was taking a week for PayPal to process the refund to my credit card. And this I told Les in a PM,....
"Les,
I checked my PayPal account yesterday and today and the status still stands, "...". I assume that means it is processing from the PayPal to the bank. I called the bank and they can't view anymore then I can. I bet anything that it will show up in one or two business days.
I hope to ship out the knife on Monday. I'll keep you up to date.
Sorry the transaction didn't work out. The knife a great little knife and damn near perfect. Hopefully, I can find another one someday.
Regards,
-Nick. "
Today is the first day I could accesss a computer since then. I went to check my status of my credit card and the system is down, so I called my bank and they stated that there has been a refund of the amount. I will be shipping out the knife today has I stated.
If anyone has questions let me know. I'll be happy to clear anything up.
Yes, my replies to his questioning or requests was not fast as FedEx but there is a reasoning behind that. I have either A) limited time at work to reply to PMs or B) limited access or time to sent out emails from home.
Regards,
-Nick.
