Beware of user Toyknife..

I have not had it to do it.Maybe it is from the tuf glide drying.The washing should have taken it off if so.
I had light marks like that on my ASH-1 as soon as I put it in a leather sheath.I have also had them from the cardboard sheath but not near as many.
To tell the truth if I was going to use it and carry it in a sheath they would not have bothered me.If it was a rare safe queen then maybe.
 
Hard to say with pics but looks like they should have shown up at least a little in his pics.
 
I guess it would be possible. I'm just going off of experience and have washed all my knives and none of them came out look like that. Didn't use a sponge, just water, soap and hand.

Look I'm not inventing anything or putting scratches on a knife to get money back. If there was a problem I would have informed the seller. If the seller doesn't want to refund then that is fine with me, that is he/her standing. You can't make someone accountable for the product after the fact.

I have been on this forum for sometime now and I have seen the good and bad. It is easy to take a side. It is natural. I see it everyday in the workplace, restaurant, TV, newspaper, etc. I don't post much, I just look at pictures and buy knives. That's all.

-Nick.
 
u812 said:
I have not had it to do it.Maybe it is from the tuf glide drying.The washing should have taken it off if so.
I had light marks like that on my ASH-1 as soon as I put it in a leather sheath.I have also had them from the cardboard sheath but not near as many.
To tell the truth if I was going to use it and carry it in a sheath they would not have bothered me.If it was a rare safe queen then maybe.
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I was going to use it on my duty belt for work but then I noticed the wear. So I emailed with questions of the marks and I received the replies posted. Which led me to the believe that something was going on. I didn't receive any answers to my questions about the sheath or sharpening. Just that it was Mint. I saw a hole in the story and I received email after email jumping to conclusions. One email right after the other. I'm sorry but that doesn't paint a good picture for the sellers story.

u812 said:
Hard to say with pics but looks like they should have shown up at least a little in his pics.
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I was hoping the sellers pictures were good but luck of the draw with photograph the flash hit right on the blade. I assume the oil that was on it covered up the scratches. The oil was not thick, kind of like if you get your car wet you don't see the key scratch.

Regards,

-Nick.
 
Those sratches do look just like kydex marks or possibly a scotchpad or the like.
I don't see how scrathces like that were not visible before washing :confused:
My GW has similar light scrathces from kydex, use and washing, they are more than obvious.

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Sorry to butt in here, but it's too much not to leave a comment or two...

First off, I think that much of this could be a misunderstanding that perhaps could have been avoided if both of you would have taken better photos. Don't use a flash on shiny metal objects, and learn to FOCUS the camera (the edge shots are practically worthless).

Second, if you slip the knife in and out of a sheath, oil it, rub it, whatever, it's no longer "mint" and should not be advertised as such.

Third, those 'scratches' appear very light and could have been caused by either of the members' admitted actions. Funny though how fellow #2 says he never saw the scratches until after he washed the knife. Coincidence?

Regardless, I'm glad you guys were able to work this out like gentlemen. :thumbup:
 
My opinion, those scratches were not caused by a sheath. The ones at the tip almost look like they could've been, but the rest are too even and too angled. That knife would draw straight up and any scratches would reflect that. Of course, I may be looking at it wrong. Even if they were though, you're talking a lot of draws in a very dirty sheath.

To me it looks like it's been rubbed down with something that had some grit caught in it.
 
Haze said:
Those sratches do look just like kydex marks or possibly a scotchpad or the like.
I don't see how scrathces like that were not visible before washing :confused:
My GW has similar light scrathces from kydex, use and washing, they are more than obvious.

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They are similar to those. Didn't use any type of scotchpad. I lean towards sheath because of the rub near the choil. It looks like it rocked in a sheath like a cutting action.

Bob W said:
Sorry to butt in here, but it's too much not to leave a comment or two...

First off, I think that much of this could be a misunderstanding that perhaps could have been avoided if both of you would have taken better photos. Don't use a flash on shiny metal objects, and learn to FOCUS the camera (the edge shots are practically worthless).

Second, if you slip the knife in and out of a sheath, oil it, rub it, whatever, it's no longer "mint" and should not be advertised as such.

Third, those 'scratches' appear very light and could have been caused by either of the members' admitted actions. Funny though how fellow #2 says he never saw the scratches until after he washed the knife. Coincidence?

Regardless, I'm glad you guys were able to work this out like gentlemen. :thumbup:
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I know my photographing skills and lack of good camera don't cut it but that is the best I could squeeze out of a old cheap camera.

Regardless, it is not about the scratches or the sharpened edge. It is the story. Why would I buy something as "new" then destroy it? If I was hard up for cash I would not be buying Busse knives.

The bottom line is I didn 't want a refund, I just wanted to know if the knife was used / sharpened and if it had a Kyex sheath to go with it. Frankly, I would have brought that too because I needed a sheath for the belt. The funds were refunded before I had a chance to say otherwise.

I hate to sound like I'm defending myself but I don't need to be painted as the redman.

Besides, if anyone of the members can't logon, post, question and sell/trade. What in the world would everyone do with their cash? heh.

Night,

-Nick.
 
Sounds like a done deal, the money has been refunded and the knife needs to be in the mail ASAP.
You owe it to the seller to return the property as soon as possible.

There really is no need for further discussion; the money has ben returned and the deal is now undone..............................
 
wolfmann601 said:
Sounds like a done deal, the money has been refunded and the knife needs to be in the mail ASAP.
You owe it to the seller to return the property as soon as possible.

There really is no need for further discussion; the money has ben returned and the deal is now undone..............................
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+1 --- Les' knife needs to be returned ASAP.
 
If you purchased it as a user, wouldn't it have been better to just pick "option b?" Unless you paid a real premium for it of course...
 
My brother-in-law took a deputy sheriff course at a local police academy. As the oldest member of the class, he was really pleased with himself being the only one to take the redman off his feet. :)
 
i have had a few satin finished fixed blades and those are imho marks from a kydex sheath, and they happen no matter how carefull ya are, washing with soap/water, tuff cloth, etc, isnt gonna do that.
 
I got the knife back today. I know for a fact those scratches were not there when I shipped it to ToyKnife. I also know they aren't caused by a kydex sheath. First because I don't own any kydex (don't know if ToyKnife does or not), and additionally the scratches go in too many directions to be caused by sheathing in kydex.

I've learned a valuable lesson.

1. Take DETAILED pictures prior to shipping.
2. You wash it, NO REFUND. You've altered the knife......

Now it goes back to Busse to be cleaned up and then resold.

Best regards to everyone.

Les.
 
I will never EVER understand why someone would wash a knife PRIOR to inspecting it. Let me get this correct; the knife is described as mint, is packaged while mint and is shipped as a mint knife. The mint knife gets delivered and the buyer cannot see anything so wrong with it that he wants a refund until after he washes it. What was on the blade that obscured those scratches? Maybe the soap and water wash caused those scratches and the buyer figured he would blame the seller because afterall, who wants an EDC knife to use a knife for it's intended purpose daily if there are cosmetic scratches on the blade?
Why wash it? Did it get shipped in a sack of mud? Does Busse spray their blades with a secret dust to conceal Infi? Do new washed knives cut better than new unwashed knives?

Just an answer to the question "why wash a knife upon arrival from a seller?" and I can go in peace and of course STFU..............................
 
Well, at least you got the knife back, even if it wasn't in that condition when you sent it out. Unfortunately, going the extra mile to take detailed pics of a knife before you send it out will only result in the recipient then resorting to the argument that the pics you took were taken before you sent out a less-than-mint knife. :rolleyes::jerkit: In other words, I don't see how this type of outcome can be avoided in the future unless you deal only with known, trusted individuals. That not only sucks for you, but for new folks too who have done nothing wrong at all and just want to buy their first knife.
 
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