Bladeforums - Best Bowie 2007

Culpeper said:
Quit your crying and acting like a kid so you can get somebody to get a forum infraction. Like I said, you got something to dispute his claims than put them on the freakin' table and quit crying. Send me one of your knives. I'll send it back broke in two. With his knife. I would be embarrassed to claim to be a collector or maker and in the same breath brag about having a $18 knife. But I guess that what one gets for living under a bridge. What a joke.
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Ignoramus? Is that Latin? No, its French. I'm a little surprised of the use of a French term from a persona with a "Don't Tread On Me" Avatar.
 
This is a nice thread, let's try and not have it moved to the GB&U forum... :D

Nice knives, Brock, I'm sure they function quite well. I find it admirable that you're making using knives at a price that most any working man can afford. It seems though that a little refinement might improve your work especially in regards to ergonomics. There are a lot of top makers who frequent these forums and spend a great deal of time on each knife. They function just as well as yours and there are people out there willing to spend the money for all the extra work put into them to make them "pretty".

Generally speaking, posting just to rile people up and stir the poop is frowned upon. Maybe you were just celebrating the new year and got your beer balls on so we'll have to wait to see if you contribute to the forums civilly. I'm sure you have a lot to teach but also a lot that you can learn from your esteemed colleagues on these boards.

Happy New Years! :thumbup:

PS JP, nice dog too!
 
Culpeper said:
The only problem I have with very nice looking knives that were manufactured to be a work of art is the fact that whether or not they can live up to the job just taking them out and using them would not only ruin them it would be reckless and irresponsible.
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No idea where you're getting that from.

Perhaps you've not had the opportunity to see Kevin Cashen take one of his "pretty" damascus camp knives and win a cutting competition. Granted, said cutting competitions may not replicate you fondest fantasies of "hard core knife use" - but it is indisputable that his knives were used and were by no means ruined. Indeed the last one was snapped up by a savvy collector before I could get my mits on it.

And while Kevin is indeed one of the VERY best makers, he is far and away not the only one who can make a "pretty" knife that can cut very well indeed. One of my most-used customs is a damascus Burt Foster hunter / utility. That pretty little thing cuts like a laser.

You seem to asssume - without stating any supportable reasons - that a "pretty" knife can't be used because it likely won't be used. That leap in logic makes the grand canyon look like a pothole.

As for dbrock, I'd respond, but I have a new-for-2008 "don't feed the trolls" policy. Not sure how long it will last, but I don't want to blow it on day one. ;)

Roger
 
dbrock76 said:
Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot the entire, dilettante world of "collectors". How silly of me.
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Silly indeed given that this is what most people here are.

Question: If the world ended tomorrow, what would you rather have;
a precious, high-performance "art knife"
Or how ever many of my own "Son of Gung-Ho Knives" the same price represents?
Yuk. There's no hesitation - I'd get one from my own collection. Your knife is ugly and looks amazingly heavy and badly balanced.

I'll go away now. I only dropped by to poke at you folks a bit. Kick me out if you want.
But, I'll leave you with this:
Bernard Levine is full of shit.
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I'll let your comment stand on their own...
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Culpeper said:
Quit your crying and acting like a kid so you can get somebody to get a forum infraction. Like I said, you got something to dispute his claims than put them on the freakin' table and quit crying. Send me one of your knives. I'll send it back broke in two. With his knife. I would be embarrassed to claim to be a collector or maker and in the same breath brag about having a $18 knife. But I guess that what one gets for living under a bridge. What a joke.
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Culpeper, "crying and acting like a kid", seems funny coming from you as you have done so every since this thread started. From the beginning you have insinuated that there's some sort of sinister plot against you and your bowie. The fact is, along with many wonderful bowies, yours didn't win. In fact, yours was it's only vote. So stop whining and crying and move on.

You ask for us to send a "pretty" bowie so you can break it? Why don't you run yours or one of dbrocks bowies through the ABS "MS" certification testing? By the way, the potential "MS" submits a damascus bowie for this rigorous testing.

WOW, your bowie cuts through a 4" pine? :eek: Better be sure it can do MUCH more than that if it's going to hang with big dogs in this thread.
 
Come on you guys. You really going to go out and scratch up those knives? Even I would be shocked. They are virtually made not to be used. They are art. To be viewed behind glass so nobody messes it up.

Again, some people on this forum are way to sensitive to be carrying a Bowie knife let alone using one.

Dbrock doesn't need to refine his knives. Its what you got back in the day.

Again, all the crying from collectors and makers almost makes me want to cry because someone brought up the usefulness bug-a-boo. Get real, you really want me to scratch up your collection with Brock's 1095 Bowie. Yeah, right.

I don't generally post here. I collect handcrafted knives such as Randalls. Most custom knives have to be priced too high so the maker can make a profit. The maker needs a customer base. Both are here and here I am. Reminds of a scene out of Platoon.

This forum is absolutely not the place to discuss Bowie knives. Bowies are meant to be scratched. The only thing that gets scratched here are forum members. Ladies, have a nice New Year.

Forrest Gump: I'm sorry I had to fight in the middle of your Black Panther party.
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Culpeper said:
Come on you guys. You really going to go out and scratch up those knives? Even I would be shocked. They are virtually made not to be used. They are art. To be viewed behind glass so nobody messes it up.
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Yep some of them actually get used.
I cut dry wood boards (1"x8") with a Lin Rhea 10" blade to see how it performs. Posted the pics on the forums at that time. Worked just fine, no damage whatsoever (as expected).
I also made cuts in big thick pressed cardboard tubes (harder to cut compared to wood actually) with a Fikes owned by a buddy of mine. Damascus blade, 12" or so bowie.
The same guy has a nice looking Fisk that cut more branches than some machetes.
When a knife looks good it doesn't mean it's for show only. Of course, there are also knives made for show only, but those presented in this thread can perform their intended task. It might ruin their look a bit (scratch the blade finish and crack that nice ivory) but I bet they stay in one piece and keep the edge like they should.
 
flava said:
Yep some of them actually get used.
I cut dry wood boards (1"x8") with a Lin Rhea 10" blade to see how it performs. Posted the pics on the forums at that time. Worked just fine, no damage whatsoever (as expected).
I also made cuts in big thick pressed cardboard tubes (harder to cut compared to wood actually) with a Fikes owned by a buddy of mine. Damascus blade, 12" or so bowie.
The same guy has a nice looking Fisk that cut more branches than some machetes.
When a knife looks good it doesn't mean it's for show only. Of course, there are also knives made for show only, but those presented in this thread can perform their intended task. It might ruin their look a bit (scratch the blade finish and crack that nice ivory) but I bet they stay in one piece and keep the edge like they should.
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Good points all. Chance of them making the slightest impression upon the intended recipient: zero.

Roger
 
Sounds like someone's trying to excuse why they have ugly wifes :D

-Michael
 
Is this what we call a circle jerk? You guys get together and start stroking each others' ego because a couple of people question your methodology.

BTW, it is "wives" not "wifes". Sophistication comes with collecting custom knives. I can see that right off.

And yes, I'm in Roswell, New Mexico and the last place I'm taking advice on a Bowie is from a Yankee on the east coast.

Still waiting on those claims by dbrock you guys keep avoiding to address.
 
Culpeper said:
Is this what we call a circle jerk? You guys get together and start stroking each others' ego because a couple of people question your methodology.

BTW, it is "wives" not "wifes". Sophistication comes with collecting custom knives. I can see that right off.
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Speaking of sophistication and seeing you're fast to point out the "wifes" misspell, are you sure you meant to employ "methodology" and not “method”?
As for breaking knives:
1. It's stupid and doesn't prove anything.
2. I bet I can break ANY knife using ANY other knife of similar size, if I can use leverage as I choose to.
 
Sorry for the spelling error Cul, just that I was laughing so hard at the fact that some use "because that's the way I want them to look" as an excuse for their lack of skill.

As to 'those claims by dbrock'; I enjoy having AND using nice knives. I try to, both in terms of cutting abilities and aesthetic value, use the nicest knives available in my kitchen. I most likely log more actual cutting hours than any ten people you know, so you claims to actually 'use' a dbrock bowie cannot compare to the wear imposed on a Don Hanson, Russ Andrews, Tomes, et al in the course of a normal day in my circumstances.

So yes, I could use an uglier knife, and no, it would not particularly cut any better than the wonderful pieces I currently use made by these highly skilled knifemakers.

So we're back to the same question...does one's wife have to be as ugly as that D-guard bowie in order to perform well? :D

-Michael
 
flava said:
Speaking of sophistication and seeing you're fast to point out the "wifes" misspell, are you sure you meant to employ "methodology" and not “method”?
As for breaking knives:
1. It's stupid and doesn't prove anything.
2. I bet I can break ANY knife using ANY other knife of similar size, if I can use leverage as I choose to.
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Don't avoid the claim with subterfuge. Brock's 1095 blade struck on top of the spine of most of the knives. You know what I'm talking about. As for "method", no. Unless, you are referring to how, as a group, you guys treat people that question the hype on overrated knives with questionable brittle blades that look damn good and bring a nice price to the market? I'm beginning to think this is a Mariah Carey Fan Club forum the way you guys defend your knives with fancy boob jobs.:D Methodology is a set of rules and disciplines. That is a compliment to the group. Bringing in "method" only allowed me to show the shortcomings of group think. But with methodology comes the scientific method. Gosh, why bring up metallurgy at this point. You guys have shown which "method" you prefer to deal with criticism when it comes to steel. Especially, when most of you have so much invested. One would think the group would have a standard scientific specific genre to respond with towards questions about art over substance and vice versa. But the group only has an empty paper sack in that department. Not bona fide. Not good enough. All you have are knives. That's not going to cut it and no pun intended. Brock's claims? He brought up some good claims for which the group brought out their empty paper sack again. And after that, again, and again, and again. Same old tired arguments and responses that don't add up to a hill of sh*t. You guys aren't promoting custom knife makers. You discouraging people collecting what they make by showing what a bunch of stuck up knife collectors do when questioned :foot:. Nice support for the maker who needs a market for his wares. Yeah, I really want to hang out with you guys some time. We can go out to the range. I'll introduce you around and even brag about your Bowie knives. It could be like a Legends of the Fall spoof.

Alfred: Don't mind my brother. Your dog has more breeding than he has.
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