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I can understand the appeal. But who decides what's a fighter and what's a bowie? If you think "bowie" is hard to define, try defining a fighter.
Roger
Roger well that will not be me that is for sure
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I can understand the appeal. But who decides what's a fighter and what's a bowie? If you think "bowie" is hard to define, try defining a fighter.
Roger
Sure, kumbaya.
And...if the Sfreddo won the "BladeForums BEST BOWIE 2010" the rest of the knife world/community could point to this thread and exclaim (accurately) that BladeForumites are so stupid they cannot tell the difference between a fighter and a bowie.
Odd situation where you and Kevin are in accord, and I am on the outs with both of you, in the corner spitting venom, but so be it.
Best Regards,
STeven Garsson
The problems is if we want to take this thing from being a casual contest or game to something quite a bit more serious and official then it's going to complicate things and cause quite a bit more work. I've helped Roger (yes, that's right) and it's no picnic figuring out and counting nominations and everyone's final seven. So creating a strict Best Bowie Contest, will most likely require a new Best Fighter Contest and then if we have both, it only makes sense that we have a third contest to find the best between both.
Roger is correct in that other knives easily called fighters have won in the past. They just as easily could have been called(accurately) bowies, and this is not the case with the Moghul fighter.....it isn't even vaguely bowie influenced.
STeven Garsson
And...if the Sfreddo won the "BladeForums BEST BOWIE 2010" the rest of the knife world/community could point to this thread and exclaim (accurately) that BladeForumites are so stupid they cannot tell the difference between a fighter and a bowie.
...Lots of knives considered "Bowies" by the noted cognoscenti of really old ones don't really fit any definition. Jim Bowie's probable knife looked a lot more like an Ol' Hickory butcher knife than anything.
Flayderman defines it:
" a weapon designed for a close encounter carried either as primary weapon, or in reserve for possibly ineffective small single shot firearms commonly carried in the first half of the 19th century".
The role defines the size-primary wepaons were bigger, reserve weapons were smaller. Like most things martial, they also became ornamental and downright useless.
The Bowie knife is all about intent
It can't really be defined. I have tried!
But if a knife is nominated for "Best Bowie", who will be the ruthless arbiter and channeler of Jim Bowie's spirit to pass judgment on whether it passes muster? And actually says "Be gone from this thread you Persian son of a serpent knife...
STeven your point is well taken.
But if a knife is nominated for "Best Bowie", who will be the ruthless arbiter and channeler of Jim Bowie's spirit to pass judgment on whether it passes muster? And actually says "Be gone from this thread you Persian son of a serpent knife.
I am certain that Roger would pass on that opportunity and I wouldn't blame him a bit.
Perhaps you and/or I should consider doing a completely separate thread, that is restricted to 10+" blades and will subject all nominees to any sort of arbitrary and capricious subjective judgmental "BOWIE" analysis we feel like imposing? if we don't like the cut of its jib... it is toast.
Just a thought, could be fun...
It is interesting (to me anyway) that in reading the posts, one would think the voting numbers would be different than they are?
Peter
...or simply eliminating "Bowie" from the name of the contest.
PS - could someone PM me and let me know - out of curiosity - whether my photos in post 1 are showing now, or whether some or all are showing the red x?
In what way do you see a disconnect between commentary and voting? The comments of late and the voting of late seem very much in accord to me.
Roger
Are there some basic standards or metrics that differentiate a bowie from a fighter? What makes the two fighters NOT bowies and vice versa? Again, I ask from a position of ignorance, and not to stir the pot.
uh oh...
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