BM vs Spydy vs ZT vs CS

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This is a funny thread.

Hi Jok3r,

Just for yucks, Can you name 3 folding knife manufacturers in the world that have not followed Spyderco's lead in innovation?

sal
 
so i cant give my own opinion or ask for others without stirring up trouble .. what does that say for you...?
so anyone that has actual knife info, i mean shit.. who cares what he/she said last posts all i want is .. i mean do i really got to say it again..

and my opinoin is of very little use with my BM like if you read my earlier posts you would see, so all i know is BM and i would like u to tell me your info on other brands
 
sal,,, what does that have anything to do with my question. and like i have b4 stated i have lil experience with blades so lil trivia questions you ask that are trying to make me look stupid just because i dont like your knives (u are the spydy founder right) isnt going to make me buy any other blade over the other, which is the whole point of this thread so you guys can help me decide which one to get... after reading this i might as well get a gun..

SAK
h&k
Leatherman....
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heres your problem joker: spyderco, bm, and kershaw are all about equal in quality. the 'best' designs and 'best' execution are purely preference. 'better' and 'worse' is a very naive concept when it comes to collecting knives at this level.

-dont be too brand loyal
-dont be too 'theoretical performance' oriented
-try everything before coming to a conclusion
-dont post statements dealing with performance unless youre some form of engineer or youre doing a scientific test first hand; and if you are, prepare to prove it
 
Sal Glesser said:
This is a funny thread.

Hi Jok3r,

Just for yucks, Can you name 3 folding knife manufacturers in the world that have not followed Spyderco's lead in innovation?

sal
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I know i cant!

But i will point out you dont see the founder and or president of BM commenting on this thread...:D


Joker...why dont you get a spyderco before you start these dumb threads...
 
i dont know what to get.. it was between a ZT 301 and a spydy mili, price wasnt the issue so dont get started on that..

if its so dumb why even post.. if you dont have any useful info that will help the rest of the forum members y say anything.. i was hoping this would be a great thread that we all could go back later and look at.. to get idk... situations on where a certain knife excelled or where it failed... opinions on great alternative knives to the ones we want. great new knives. and why its so great.. idc if its just, it feels good in hand.. or comfortable hard working knife... i mean shit.. this had potential to be a great thread... it still can but u ppl need to "hear the pop" (of your head coming out of your @$$) and get on topic
 
SoCalJok3r said:
sal,,, what does that have anything to do with my question. and like i have b4 stated i have lil experience with blades so lil trivia questions you ask that are trying to make me look stupid
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Don't worry, nobody needs to try to make you look stupid.;)
 
SoCalJok3r said:
sal,,, what does that have anything to do with my question. and like i have b4 stated i have lil experience with blades so lil trivia questions you ask that are trying to make me look stupid just because i dont like your knives (u are the spydy founder right) isnt going to make me buy any other blade over the other, which is the whole point of this thread so you guys can help me decide which one to get... after reading this i might as well get a gun..

SAK
h&k
Leatherman....
:)
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Not to be a jerk but.......I think Mr. Glesser knows what he's talking bout.... Leatherman DOES use an opening hole in some of their blades(Wave/Charge), and they also use a pocket clip which I think Spyderco claims. H&k, as far as I know doesn't even have its own brand..... I thought they were one of Benchmades lines....... Again, they use an opening hole somewhere I'm sure, or a pocket clip. Victorinox makes SAKs and so does Wegner, it isn't a brand.......... They also use a pocket clip on their OHT, and an opening hole. I don't claim to know anything, and if I am wrong, I appreciate anyone telling me politely where I am wrong, so I can learn where I am wrong.
P.S. Sal, I love your knives!
 
ok maybe they all do.. but how did spyderco innovate them???? im sure the spydy didnt innovate a pocket clip or opening hole.. they just made opening hole popular.. but again sal.. why are your knives better than others..
i feel you are the best person to argue the case..
 
but y does it matter. this isnt who wants to be a millionaire . who cares what i know about history of knives...? i want facts/ opinions, on what knife works better for what situation.. i cant give you one i will encounter cuz i dont know the future.. but it will need to be a hard working sturdily built and good at self defense..
and if the president himself cant sell me on his knives then im sure non of you can.
 
so why even try to ask? your original post was manipulative because you think you already knew the answers and you wanted poeple to answer in a certain way. For your information, there are quite a few posters here whose intelligence is above the caveman level and that's why they didn't respond the way you wanted them to. You're exactly like a sulky kid who wants to squeeze your mom's mouth because you're not hearing what you want to hear. :yawn:
 
actually spyderco did invent the pocketclip, opening hole, and modern serrations

you are too focused on what is better. instead of asking sal why his knives are better, go buy one and use it. otherwise youll never really know for yourself.
 
Nobody really cares what brand of knife you buy, joker.
Buy whatever you like and be happy with your choice, we aren't here to try to sell you on Spyderco, if you think they aren't worth your money then good on you. (as the Brits say)
Nobody has to like the same brands or buy the same. It's a free choice matter and decide based on how you feel about it. I myself own Spyderco's, Benchmades, ZT's and Kershaws. As well as others. They are all decent honest brands and offer good service.
Sure there's differences. But, that's just the great thing about competition now isn't it? We get a vast array of various products to choose from and better products at that. It's not like we have to buy just one brand of anything. We can choose and own what we want. Even many different brands. It's what makes being a consumer fun!
 
ok fuck it.. admin end this post some ppl cant seem to see over there own noses..... they cant read what is written on the page... if yuo guys actually read my earlier posts you would see how stupid your responses are... i asked pros' cons of each blade.. how F'in simple is that...
 
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ok f*k it.. admin end this post some ppl cant seem to see over there own noses..... they cant read what is written on the page... if yuo guys actually read my earlier posts you would see how stupid your responses are... i asked pros' cons of each blade.. how F'in simple is that...
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It's IMPOSSIBLE! Everyones uses vary greatly. What you need is a crowbar. P.S. *******in before the lock!!!!
 
everyones uses varies... no shit....
how about u give me an example of when your knife did great work... instead of saying "everyones different"
 
SoCal Jok3r said:
ok fuck it.. admin end this post some people cant seem to see over there own noses..... they cant read what is written on the page... if you guys actually read my earlier posts you would see how stupid your responses are... i asked pros' cons of each blade.. how F'in simple is that...
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There's not enough pros and cons between them to discuss, is what's wrong with it. It's more a matter of personal preference. They all do what they are intended to do.
 
An opinion: benchmades across the board are good knives. I prefer their 154 over their s 30v. I like some of their designs, and dislike others. I do believe that they probably do appeal to a wider range of knife users. I have never had an issue with their product.

Spyderco is a great company, and they are arguably responsible for tacticle knives as we know them. They primarily use vg 10 as their blade steel and it is a great all around steel. It takes and razor edge and holds a working edge for a good deal of time. It has become one of my favorite steels. I find that I appreciate it more then s30v even though s30v is more wear resistant. Admittedly, spydies are not the prettiest of knives but just use one and you will soon see why they have such a loyal following. I would actually suggest getting a g10 endura over the military. The military is a fine knife but IMHO the endura is a better fit to most peoples needs.

Kershaw: I have and love my s30v leek. I prefer kershaw s30v over BM. It performs better for my applied uses. Things that bother me about kershaw are the 3d machining they use on some of their blades and their over use of ao systems. However I love the fact that they have so many knives that utilize the flipper. The zing would be damn near a perfect knife if it didn't have the rediculous machining on the blade.
 
that was almost 140 posts of BS.... why is it so hard for ppl to get off their high horse and just answer a simple question...

for example
if someone asked me what blade i thought was best i would say BM 950. ....heres the key

BECAUSE.....
BM uses great materials and for a good price, and customer service is 2nd to none...

i dont like spyderco knives because the blades are really thin.. they use substandard materials for the price.. and the handles are too large.

i mean if you all answered like that and the few educated knife owners put in there two cents it would have become a good thread.
 
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