Bob Cargill Cripple Creek Knives

[mckgreg]

The majority of the Honeybone Sowbelly's in 1984 were the Northwest Logger. They were limited to 100 knives. This is the reason why the
1984 Honeybone Sowbelly's with the Cripple Creek etching are rare.
If you were to purchase the Northwest Logger from Washington's Battle Ground Hardware in 1984-85 it would look like this.
Lots more to come later.
Greg

The folded paperwork that came inside the wooden box.

The NW Logger was serial numbered on the tang of the pen blade.

 

[mckgreg]

There is new information regarding the Chief Anderson Knives on page 3.
Without the collaborated effort of Cripple Creek Collectors this information never would have come
to light.
Greg

 

[pmek5]

The majority of the Honeybone Sowbelly's in 1984 were the Northwest Logger. They were limited to 100 knives. This is the reason why the
1984 Honeybone Sowbelly's with the Cripple Creek etching are rare.
If you were to purchase the Northwest Logger from Oregon's Battle Ground Hardware in 1984 it would look like this.
Lots more to come later.
Greg

The folded paperwork that came inside the wooden box.

The NW Logger was serial numbered on the tang of the pen blade.

Besides the Sowbelly being a great knife; he did a great packaging of it.

 

[Bugdoc]

nice shot Bugdoc ! A white background makes it difficult for a good shot.

Thanks Greg. As you mentioned not too much light, plus spot metering.

 

[mckgreg]

Bugdoc, no white or black backgrounds is a better way to go. I left some tips on page 8 posts #143 and #144. The
one you posted turned out pretty good but a darker, non-reflective background works better. Just no really saturated colors.
Got a piece of wood? Check out the tips I left and see if it works for you.

More Sowbelly patterns. The 5 blade kind. The ad is from the 2nd & 3rd quarter of the 1984 Smoke Signals.

 

[sunnyd]

Greg, As you know I've been following along here from the start and am just blown away by all the incredible documentation you and the rest of the gang here have been able to come up with thus far. I have been reading all of the smoke signals and the additional media nearly all of which I have never seen before, and from a purely educational standpoint this thread is shaping up to be the definitive guide to everything Bob Cargill and Cripple Creek. I just want to express my gratitude to all the contributors in here for this reference of knowledge and very much look forward to seeing and reading Rookie's NKCA articles and any more Smoke Signals you and others may have, ect.. Actually this thread should be a permanent sticky now that I think about it. Perhaps someone could lobby one of our fine moderators get that ball rolling..

 

[Rookie82]

I didn't forget you guys. I'm still going through the magazines. I've covered 1977-1985 so far, still looking through more of them. Bob became the NKCA president in 1988 I believe, so there may be a lot more from him once I hit those issues.

 

[mckgreg]

Anthony, it's guys like you and other members that gives us pleasure in doing this. I hope everyone is saving as much of this thread as they can to their computers,
a flash drive or some other storage device. A compilation of information like this doesn't come about often. The pictures are nice to match the written info to the
visual details of the knives. But you do have to utilize the ability to read. The photos are linked to a online storage site. They have been around for at least 15 years
and are very dependable. But, in the world we live in today you never know when things might come to an end. Save the Info !!!
No rush Rookie. It all comes together sooner or later.
I am updating certain posts with new info and have been making note of that in current posts. This way you can go directly to the page with the updates.
This way we can keep all the info on a certain knife, or written posts, in one place rather than a long string of stuff that isn't stitched together properly.
Or you can look at it like this, Somebody comes across this thread and starts on page one and goes page by page looking for info on a certain set of knives.
He'll be able to find it all in one area of the thread.
We have lots more to come. Lot's more.
Greg

 

[pmek5]

Definitely “Sticky” worthy.
Thanks to all for all this amazing info.

 

[sunnyd]

I didn't forget you guys. I'm still going through the magazines. I've covered 1977-1985 so far, still looking through more of them. Bob became the NKCA president in 1988 I believe, so there may be a lot more from him once I hit those issues.

That is what takes the real investment in time, Rookie, to go through all the material and identify the pertinent articles from the rest of it. Like Greg said we are in no hurry here as this thread will be here for many moons to come. So have some fun with it and again take your time..

 

[sunnyd]

Anthony, it's guys like you and other members that gives us pleasure in doing this. I hope everyone is saving as much of this thread as they can to their computers,
a flash drive or some other storage device. A compilation of information like this doesn't come about often. The pictures are nice to match the written info to the
visual details of the knives. But you do have to utilize the ability to read. The photos are linked to a online storage site. They have been around for at least 15 years
and are very dependable. But, in the world we live in today you never know when things might come to an end. Save the Info !!!
No rush Rookie. It all comes together sooner or later.
I am updating certain posts with new info and have been making note of that in current posts. This way you can go directly to the page with the updates.
This way we can keep all the info on a certain knife, or written posts, in one place rather than a long string of stuff that isn't stitched together properly.
Or you can look at it like this, Somebody comes across this thread and starts on page one and goes page by page looking for info on a certain set of knives.
He'll be able to find it all in one area of the thread.
We have lots more to come. Lot's more.
Greg

Much obliged for the sage advice here, Greg. I'll check with my son and my daughter regarding providing me with a flash drive as they're the techies that I know best. This is stuff we don't want to lose and that is for sure!.

Also I wanted to give a shout out to Thank Augie for starting this fine thread.

And Bugdoc, Mike Robuck, pmek5 and others I cannot recall at the moment.. Much Gratitude to you all.

 

[mckgreg]

You're right Anthony. Without Augie's simple request for information we probably never would have started this thread.

2nd and 3rd quarters of the 1984 Smoke Signals. At this point in time I do not know if there is a 4th quarter Smoke Signals from 1984.
For additional info on knives from 1981 thru 1984 see Levine's Guide on the bottom of page 8 and on page 9.
Greg

The AECA Knife mentioned on the first page above.

 

[Rookie82]

Here you go guys, this is what I found relevant from 1976 through 1986 issues of NKCA Magazine. Note, this was originally called National Knife Collector and Dealer Association Newsletter, then called Knife Collector Magazine, then called National Knife Collector Magazine, and finally called NKCA Magazine. And in mid 1997, all rights were sold to and absorbed into Knife World Publication.

I'll continue to go through the issues from 1987 through 1997 and see what else I can find. That's only 132 more magazines to look through!

Also good to note, that Bob was mentioned in probably 1/2 of the issues I looked through. But many were just statements like "I met with Bob and we spoke about ..." but it was nothing relevant to his Cargill or Cripple Creek knives. He also won a lot of display competitions, or was awarding trophies to others for their Cripple Creek collections at knife shows. But the knives were never shown, so I didn't bother scanning any of them in. Here is what I found useful for this thread.

First an image of Bob with his Case knife repair station set up at a knife show in 1976.

Next is an ad for orders for a custom knife that Bob made in 1977.
Next is an ad in 1978 for an Oak Leaf custom knife.



Next is an article from 1978, showing that Bob won an award at a knife show for a set of knives that he made. I wish the image was better so we could see the knives.



Next is an ad for his Seminole knife in 1980.



Next is the ad for the 1st Knife World knife in 1981.



Next is an ad for the Wounded Knee Barlows in 1982.



Next is an ad for his Dog Leg Trapper in 1985.


Next, a cool one. This is his "Cowbelly" knife, 1 of 1, given to the winner of a contest in 1985. Blade is etched "Proto" and has the NKCA shield inlay.


And finally, his nomination to run for NKCA president. Note, he didn't win this year, but he did win a few years later.



I'll keep digging and post more when I find it.

 

[mckgreg]

Good stuff Rookie !!!
As mentioned in the 2nd & 3rd quarter 1984 Smoke Signals, Cargill declared '84 to be the year of the Barlow.
Here's Shane's photo of the Blood Brothers set. White bone and what Cargill called Redskin bone. 200 sets made in 1984.
The knives came with the leather and felt case.
Greg

 

[mckgreg]

The knives from the magazine ads above.
The custom knife in the Cargill ad in Rookie's post above, the NKCA Proto knife, the Bolster Lock and the 1982 Knife World piece.
The Green River Rendezvous Dog Leg Trapper (new LI-7) and Wounded Knee Barlows are also on page 7. Still looking for a Seminole.
Greg

The new LI #7 Trapper

 

[pmek5]

You keep amazing us Greg. It’s like Christmas every time I open this thread

 

[mckgreg]

Display of the steps in making the 1982 Knife World Knife. It's all encased in clear plastic.
Greg

 

[mckgreg]

More eye candy before posting the next Buffalo Signals. Some early Barlows.
Greg

There are 59 of the Firestone Barlows. This is a "20 years of service" knife Cargill was commissioned by Firestone to make for employees.
If I remember correctly, there is one that was extra special for the head guy at Firestone.
There are 28 with clip blades, 31 with spear. The shield is a 10 karat gold alloy set in white bone.

Strawberry bone '84 Barlow.

 

[Bugdoc]

You're right Anthony. Without Augie's simple request for information we probably never would have started this thread.
2nd and 3rd quarters of the 1984 Smoke Signals. At this point in time I do not know if there is a 4th quarter Smoke Signals from 1984
Greg

Not only providing a wealth of information about Bob's knives, these newsletters also give insight into his motive to make a good knife and of his simple honesty. For me it helps give some perspective into the Blackjack era, where I would now come down firmly on Bob's side.

 

[mckgreg]

Let's move on to 1985. Here's the 1st quarter of the 1985 Smoke Signals. The ad for the Northwest Logger (in my post at the top of this page)
was in this issue along with an ad of the Firestone Barlow.
Greg

All the Green River Rendezvous Knifes are on page 7.
Greg