Book of Eli

I love Denzel and i Loved this movie. People dig to deep when analyzing movies. I find that if i just sit back and remember its just for entertainment, i can overlook an imperfect plot or bad graphics and it becomes much more enjoyable. Fortunately, for me, there was nothing to overlook in this movie. It was simply a great movie..to me...YMMV
 
People dig to deep when analyzing movies. I find that if i just sit back and remember its just for entertainment, i can overlook an imperfect plot or bad graphics and it becomes much more enjoyable.

Congratulations, you have just described why porn still exists in such proliferation. To me, there is nothing more entertaining and joyful as an intelligent conversation. That is closely followed by reading a great book. A really smart and well put together movie can approach a half decent book. Two hours of violent eye candy, CGI-overload, and single human beings doing things that are completely stupid (without even having a superhero explanation behind it) are just dull.....Unless of course there are boobies involved....then its okay :D
 
Congratulations, you have just described why porn still exists in such proliferation. To me, there is nothing more entertaining and joyful as an intelligent conversation.

If you can find it. Seems hard sometimes. The conversation not the porn :). But as for reveiws on Rotten Tomatoes. They suck also. They gave District 9 90%+. IMO it should have reached such high praise. It was pretty much crap. I will take a decent action movie anytime.
 
^ Thank you, I was in line at the video store tonight with my wife and all i could hear was a lady in front of me saying how good District 9 was. I didn't wanna be a jerk and butt in, but it made me mad, too many crap movies out lately.
 
For The Book of Eli I saw non-smoking, mostly unmodified, cars and delivery vans,

No. Almost every car i saw was destroyed.The ones that weren't looked like welded together crap.

a chainsaw that fires up on the first go

it took him maybe 6 or 7 tries....

a perfectly working RPG-7 warhead, and plenty of primer using, magazine spring dependent, recoil spring dependent, lubrication dependent, semi-auto pistols running around a very impoverished world set after a post apocalyptic war--30 years on--just in a trailer, so I am not too encouraged.


Almost everyone in that world DID not have a gun. Only several people did. I mean not everyone was carrying a gun. Several times in the movie they said that "nobody has bullets anymore, we know it can't be loaded." Just a few people in a select part of a town had working guns.

Heck a gunsmith with a few select tools could re-use some casings....

I enjoyed the movie. sure you can look so far deep into things it's not fun anymore (Avatar....)

It's a movie guys. Your supposed to enjoy some things, hell even dream about some things, or imagine what it was like.

I constantly thought about how it would be like living in a world like the book of eli.
 
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I didn't wanna be a jerk and butt in, but it made me mad, too many crap movies out lately.

You sure would have been a jerk butting in. Having a strong opinion about a movie, good or bad, doesn't give you the right to tell someone else they don't know what they're talking about. Liking or disliking a movie is a personal thing, it's subjective and involves countless factors that are going to be unique for everyone. So what if they enjoyed a movie you didn't? You don't have to crusade to get them to change their mind; let them enjoy it, they're not hurting you.

That's not to say that there aren't truly bad movies out there. But there's always going to be a few people who enjoy them, for some reasons that make perfect sense to them, but probably not others. Those people, I tend to leave alone.


As for myself, I'm relatively easy to please. I find that not griping about every little discontinuity or unrealistic detail gives me more time to drink in the experience that the director put together for me and the actors worked so hard to bring to life. So I enjoyed The Book of Eli. It's not going on my top 10 list of favorite movies, but it was very much enjoyable.
 
Just saw the movie tonight. I thought it was pretty awesome. I pretty much love anything denzel is in, but this was one of his better roles.
 
Precisely why I didn't, I don't like to be that guy that rains on peoples' parade. I think it bugged me that I was stuck there having to listen to them discuss how good it was.
 
^ Thank you, I was in line at the video store tonight with my wife and all i could hear was a lady in front of me saying how good District 9 was. I didn't wanna be a jerk and butt in, but it made me mad, too many crap movies out lately.

Why would it make you mad that someone likes a movie, even if you didn't like that same movie?

I really enjoyed District, 9 BTW. I hope that doesn't make you mad.
 
Lol sorry, mad was a bad choice to describe it just irritated me. I think the movie was just drawn out and very predictable. From the first half hour or less of the movie I already had a pretty good idea what was gonna happen. Unfortunately it seemed like it took forever for it all to unfold. I am personally not fond of movies that don't wrap it up, except for sagas where you just can't possibly fit it into 2 to 3 hours so you NEED one or more sequels. Unfortunately they could have had the alien back and saved their race and fixed the dude in one movie, now they are gonna have a drawn out sequel to wrap it up, probably just so they can get as much money out of it as possible. It wouldn't surprise me if they didn't already film it at the same time. Sorry to go on a rant, I was just disappointed by the movie, all the good parts were spoiled in the previews. It can also vary on my mood if I like a movie, I may have to watch it again down the road.
 
Didn't make it yesterday, so went today.

Good movie, with a cool twist at the end.

Little curious about the "guns and springs being 30 years old" comments, geez how many old surplus guns (and ammo) are being shot everyday right now that a looooong past that age?
 
Little curious about the "guns and springs being 30 years old" comments, geez how many old surplus guns (and ammo) are being shot everyday right now that a looooong past that age?

This is why I own Glocks and keep a box full of springs and various replacement parts.
 
Why would it make you mad that someone likes a movie, even if you didn't like that same movie?

I really enjoyed District, 9 BTW. I hope that doesn't make you mad.

Like said before everyone has there own taste. But I mention earlier reviews aren't accurate either. District 9 received 90% + on Rotten Tomatoes. Which is a high rating. IMo if it was rated low and I watched it on Bluray, I would figure it was okay which nothing else to do. But I expected alot more. Book of Eli I will like because I like those types. Other will hate it. Knives,guns and a few boobs make a movie to me. :D
 
Little curious about the "guns and springs being 30 years old" comments, geez how many old surplus guns (and ammo) are being shot everyday right now that a looooong past that age?

Yeah, I've got some rifles pushing 80 years old that still fire fine and as far as I know, have the original springs. The ammo is 60+ years old and works fine.

In such a situation as these movies present, you'll probably run out of ammo before your gun won't work anymore.

Power. . .I assume that was in reference to I Am Legend. Only thing I could figure on that one is that it was New York, and NY, IIRC, runs off of nuclear power. Which, depending on the last time the reactor was fueled, would continue going for a LONG time, especially with the minimal usage he'd be putting on it, and it would keep going, even unattended, unless there was a problem. Also, he was with the Army, they knew he was working on the problem, and probably would have ordered the power be kept on.

None of his defenses were that elaborate, and with the military presence before the evac, they could ahve assited in setting up the demo charges and such.

Him driving new cars? I thought it was obvious that he'd break into a new one, use it until the gas ran out and then steal another. Lots of cars int he city, and it'd take a long time for one guy to run through them all.

What was a problem for me was the gas. Gas only lasts about 6 months before breaking down, so even if all those cars had gas, they still wouldn't run because they'd have nothing but polluted water in their tanks. Resident Evil: Extinction made more sense as they were driving diesel vehicles.
 
Didn't make it yesterday, so went today.

Good movie, with a cool twist at the end.

Little curious about the "guns and springs being 30 years old" comments, geez how many old surplus guns (and ammo) are being shot everyday right now that a looooong past that age?

My comment so my explanation is this:

Surplus ammo and C&R pistols and rifles of any quality have been stored in cosmoline or under ideal temp and humidity conditions. That would not be the case for any firearms after a war "that tore a hole in the sky."

Most commercial primers are not sealed. Modern primers, containing no hazmat like the mercury in the old style mercury fulminate primers of old begin to chemically deteriorate at the 30-40 year span, rendering them inconsistent or inert.

On an autopistol, both magazine springs and recoil springs are critical to timing to prevent feed jams and extraction failures. It is commonly recommended that one replace a recoil spring at 5000 rounds or sooner and magazine springs as required.

Now transport all of these firearms not incinerated or damaged by the circumstances of war 30 years into a future that has no climate controlled warehouses, nice humidity controlled safes, working desiccants, new wire spring manufacture and wonder how many cannibalizations would have had to be done to keep many popular semiautomatic pistols up and running in perfect working order with ammunition that works reliably. Then imagine the current condition that many if not all of the surviving firearms in a world where life was nasty brutish and short and ownership very fluid, after those guns would have been used hard and cleaned little, seen temp extremes of heat and cold, exposed to rain, and having their finishes worn off.

Not to mention where one is going to get any quality petroleum distillates for lube/ corrosion protection during the 30 years after refining stops.

Then calculate the odds on how many of these survivors would be semiautos, or RPG-7 grenades, all congregating in one place at one time for a big Hollywood shootout (haven't seen this film) and I'd think you'd find them to be fairly remote.

I would expect in such a world that long term surviving firearms would have a few common characteristics:

Commonality: There are millions of .38 Special revolvers running around out there from the turn of the 20th Century to today. There are tons of .30-30s out there too.

Lower volume of fire: A weapon with less of a post apocalyptic fire fight workload is likelier to survive with little or no maintenance over the span of thirty years than one which was coveted by every bad guy out there and many of which would be parted out for better working examples. Double action revolvers, low cap bolt rifles, double barreled shotguns, and other slowly reloading weapons would see less warhorsing into dysfunction.

Durables: Bolt rifles are a good candidate, as are single shot rifles, and anything else not terribly magazine or spring wear dependent for proper functioning.

Oddballs: The less desirable a piece is would oddly enough go longer towards ensuring it's long term survival, like a Glock using .45GAP. You just might not have anything to fire from it.

Easy runners: Flint lock muzzle loaders could keep going if folks figured out how to make good black powder. Hammer fired shotguns might be convertible to black powder. Of course black powder revolvers might come into vogue again, but the problem of making stable primers would rear its head again if caps were required.
 
Not to mention where one is going to get any quality petroleum distillates for lube/ corrosion protection during the 30 years after refining stops.
when i was in boot camp they gave us one bottle of oil to last the 13 weeks (well really 11 if you dont include graduation week and proccesing) but i sat on my bottle once and all the oil leaked out. so i filled it with chapstick and a little spit and used that the rest of the time and i never had it jam or spot of rust sorry this might be a little off topic
 
Why would it make you mad that someone likes a movie, even if you didn't like that same movie?

I really enjoyed District, 9 BTW. I hope that doesn't make you mad.




+1. I find rottentomatoes to be pretty damned good. It is a WHOLE lot better than IMDB.

I was going to avoid Book of Eli because all I have heard about it outside of this thread makes it sound pretty terrible. I'll check it out now, maybe.




As an unrelated side note, if a person likes anything by Michael Bay or Roland Emmerich, then it is pretty easy to understand why you wouldnt understand or appreciate critically praised or good movies (which I realize are not the exact same thing)...

:D
 
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