Brous Blades Division Flipper: First Impressions

[throwback8]

I have one of the Acid Stonewash Division Flippers arriving today...I'll post if the finish affects the smoothness of the flipper action...I wondered the same thing even though I liked the look to the treated blade.

This would be absolutely awesome. Pay close attention to the detent friction when slowly closing the blade from a full deployment. Then of course what it feels like with an actual flick. Looking forward to the info! Thanks!

 

[cbxer55]

I just now saw that these are available from Blade HQ, although they are out of stock on all of them at this time. Did not realize that it is a four inch + knife. And although the price is over my $300 limit, it is only by $29.00. Will be keeping my eye on Blade HQ. When they get more in stock, may just order me one.

 

[KLJTech]

I saw from the forum here that KnifeCenter just got some in stock: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php/749-For-Sale-Production-Knives-(Dealer)

I bought one with the Acid StoneWash....

 

[KLJTech]

Okay, so the knife feels great and surprisingly light in the hand, it flips open SO easy that it almost feels like an assisted opener. It looks stellar, the acid stonewash gives it a different look than any other blade I have. It looks aged, if King Leonidas (of 300) carried a folder, this is what it would look like. The carbon fiber looks sweet and feels great in the hand.

The detent is strong, I can't get the blade (and its a big blade) to fall free from the frame once closed and when the blade is lowering back into the frame (while held horizontally) the blade lowers smoothly and it almost seems like the detent reaches up and grabs the blade back into place. I can't imagine how nice this thing is going to work after its been opened and closed (not to mentioned USED) several times.

I'm impressed.

 

[cbxer55]

That's a great looking knife man. Looks like I may have to bite the bullet and order one from KnifeCenter when I get home. I like the fact the blade is 4.37 inches. Anything over 4 is good to me.

 

[NCCNC]

Good lookin' blade. I am loving mine. Gutted and skinned a catfish with it down at the river last night and it is quite the slicer.

Okay, so the knife feels great and surprisingly light in the hand, it flips open SO easy that it almost feels like an assisted opener. It looks stellar, the acid stonewash gives it a different look than any other blade I have. It looks aged, if King Leonidas (of 300) carried a folder, this is what it would look like. The carbon fiber looks sweet and feels great in the hand.

The detent is strong, I can't get the blade (and its a big blade) to fall free from the frame once closed and when the blade is lowering back into the frame (while held horizontally) the blade lowers smoothly and it almost seems like the detent reaches up and grabs the blade back into place. I can't imagine how nice this thing is going to work after its been opened and closed (not to mentioned USED) several times.

I'm impressed.

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[KLJTech]

Good lookin' blade. I am loving mine. Gutted and skinned a catfish with it down at the river last night and it is quite the slicer.

What's your opinion of the "black" blade?
Originally I wanted the un-coated blade but now that I've seen the acid stonewash in person I'm very glad that I went with it...I highly doubt that there is a "bad" choice.

For a knife that I had never heard of until seeing it in a YouTube video (thanks Jim Skelton) a couple weeks ago, I must say that I'm very, very happy with it. I kind of feel like I got the knife for a rather cheap price. I've paid a lot more than this for folders before that didn't impressed nearly as much as this one. Its a nice score and will be a fun knife to use.

Take care guys!
-Kevin

 

[NCCNC]

The black cerakote (sp?) on the black blade doesnt seen to affect the flipping. I was origionally looking for an uncoated blade, but after several drinks I bought the black one. Im glad I did. No pictures do the carbon fiber justice.

What's your opinion of the "black" blade?
Originally I wanted the un-coated blade but now that I've seen the acid stonewash in person I'm very glad that I went with it...I highly doubt that there is a "bad" choice.

For a knife that I had never heard of until seeing it in a YouTube video (thanks Jim Skelton) a couple weeks ago, I must say that I'm very, very happy with it. I kind of feel like I got the knife rather cheap. I've paid a lot more than this for folders before that didn't impressed nearly as much as this one. Its a nice score and will be a fun knife to use.

Take care guys!
-Kevin

 

[Torm]

It isn't capitalism.

Coca Cola was produced more than ten years before Pepsi, Pepsi could arguably be a knock off or copy of Coca Cola. Is it a better or more desirable product?.....Coca Cola is still the global market leader so I guess not.

It's a rather poor analogy to begin with since there are more types of cola than Pepsi or Coke and all of them sell and the folks who prefer one or the other can make their own choice since the market can easily bear all of the varieties.

Back to the topic at hand; personally, I see quite a number of differences in the two designs, subtle as they may be. To be quite honest, other than the few regular Brous haters I've never once heard of Poltergeist Works or any model of knife produced there, nor have I seen any reviews. Maybe the fella makes great knives; having never handled one I couldn't say. What I do know for a fact though is that Jason has been published and has amassed a large fan following in a short amount of time, despite a rather vocal minority that seem to plague any thread which so much as brings up his name. He also consistently turns out top-quality blades at reasonable prices. The Silent Soldier Ranger I've been carrying for months is by far the best neck knife I've ever held or used and is quite an interesting design. Hopefully he'll make a folder version too but then again, the same folks would likely complain it looked too similar to X or Y knife design because that too has an upswept reverse tanto blade.

 

[DShiflet]

Hopefully he'll make a folder version too but then again, the same folks would likely complain it looked too similar to X or Y knife design because that too has an upswept reverse tanto blade.

I have nothing against Brous Blades(other than them being out of my price range-I'd like a Division, but I'm not paying $300 for it), but you can't seriously be saying the Division and the Poltergeist knife don't like seriously, ridiculously similar are you? The similarity isn't just in the basic blade shape, it's pretty much the entirety of the knife.

 

[Murdamook]

It's a rather poor analogy to begin with since there are more types of cola than Pepsi or Coke and all of them sell and the folks who prefer one or the other can make their own choice since the market can easily bear all of the varieties.

Back to the topic at hand; personally, I see quite a number of differences in the two designs, subtle as they may be. To be quite honest, other than the few regular Brous haters I've never once heard of Poltergeist Works or any model of knife produced there, nor have I seen any reviews. Maybe the fella makes great knives; having never handled one I couldn't say. What I do know for a fact though is that Jason has been published and has amassed a large fan following in a short amount of time, despite a rather vocal minority that seem to plague any thread which so much as brings up his name. He also consistently turns out top-quality blades at reasonable prices. The Silent Soldier Ranger I've been carrying for months is by far the best neck knife I've ever held or used and is quite an interesting design. Hopefully he'll make a folder version too but then again, the same folks would likely complain it looked too similar to X or Y knife design because that too has an upswept reverse tanto blade.

What's your point? Brous is a larger more known brand so he should be able to take designs from smaller companies? Okay.

 

[Torm]

What's your point? Brous is a larger more known brand so he should be able to take designs from smaller companies? Okay.

My point is that it's getting a little old watching the folks who seem to have taken it upon themselves as some kind of personal mission to slag Jason at every opportunity. Brous Blades also wasn't a "larger well known brand" until fairly recently and he's built that brand and success on the back of quality products and service. The Division is a different handle layout, its a folder, and other than the outline has a different grind and a finger slot for opening.

 

[TotalDbag]

Just because one is a folder, and one is a fixed blade doesn't mean the design can't be replicated.
Look here, one's a fixed blade, and one's a folder. Are you going to tell me the designs are COMPLETELY different??

No, you're not. You'll say, there are minute differences, but the design is the same. Yes I know they're both from the same company, I'm just proving a point, that the design can still be copied, even though one's a folder, and the other's a fixed blade.

But to the OP, and everyone else who has purchased one. I sincerely hope you enjoy it.

 

[mr_anderson]

That is not true at all, I have spoken to Jakub 3-4 times about this because the first time I saw this knife I knew nothing of Jasons work. I did some reading and found a few threads (not here) that pertained to Jason stealing designs, not just from Jakub. He was Banned from the USN. Jakub quit pursuing this because he didn't feel like starting fights over it and dragging it out, I have the PM in my inbox. The design is 99% stolen if you look at them.

"Hello Guys! I've been seeing Jasons designs lately and I saw this new flipper he's comming out with. The first photo is my HAUNTER (circa 2009), 2nd is his new Division Flipper. 3rd is his custom, and that is basically my REIKON design. Just thought I would post this up here for everyone to know. Thank You Guys!"

Congrats on the new knife.

I have #7 Division Flipper (Satin Blade).

I am a huge fan of Jason's work and also have a Blackout Silent Soldier as well.

Murdamook first off the design isn't identical and Jason didnt steal it.

Both Jason and Jakub spoke and worked everything out with no issues.

Yes they resemble each other, but so do a TON of other knives.

Just because its similar does NOT mean Jason stole the design.

Everytime a Brous thread comes up someone has to hate, when they don't even know the facts.

(Shakes Head)

 

[TacOpsEDC]

I'm done reading all the bashing.

It's like I said, haters will be haters will be haters.

Yes there are similarities between the two, but they are not identical.

And like I already stated, there are plenty of knives that look very close to one another, are people bashing them, nope not at all.

But like others have stated, if you like a knife then buy the knife, its that simple.

Your money is your money and you can spend it how you please.

I personally support Jason and love both my Silent Soldier(Blackout) & Division(Satin).

Anytime I have emailed Jason he always has responded in a quick timely manner and was always helpful.

All in all, purchase the knives you like, in the end that's what matters most.

 

[toker]

And like I already stated, there are plenty of knives that look very close to one another, are people bashing them, nope not at all.

- Do a search on the knives you are referring to and you'll find plenty of threads.

I personally support Jason and love both my Silent Soldier(Blackout) & Division(Satin).

- It should also be noted that the Silent Soldier bears a very similar resemblance to another maker's knife called the Snitch.

 

[TacOpsEDC]

I'm not gonna argue over this topic, its just not gonna go anywhere.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and can spend their money how they see fit.

My opinion isn't going to change others opinions so no point going back and forth.

I support Jason and will continue to do so, he makes great knives for great prices.

 

[Murdamook]

I'm not gonna argue over this topic, its just not gonna go anywhere.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and can spend their money how they see fit.

My opinion isn't going to change others opinions so no point going back and forth.

I support Jason and will continue to do so, he makes great knives for great prices.

As I said, buy what you want just know from whom you are buying. Let's not pretend they are great prices either. The reloader is 330$ has a D2 blade, g10, and a titanium lockbar. 330$, in my opinion, is way too expensive for the materials used. Again, buy what you want but don't pretend it's an amazing deal. I like Emerson knives but would never call them great knives for a great price.

 

[KLJTech]

As I said, buy what you want just know from whom you are buying. Let's not pretend they are great prices either. The reloader is 330$ has a D2 blade, g10, and a titanium lockbar. 330$, in my opinion, is way too expensive for the materials used. Again, buy what you want but don't pretend it's an amazing deal. I like Emerson knives but would never call them great knives for a great price.

So buy what you want, no big deal...BUT I'm going to keep on with the negative comments?

I gotta be honest, I've never bothered to take the time to post negative comments on a knife that I didn't buy and had no plans on buying.

We could turn this into a thread in which we all post knives from one maker that look very similar to another...then again that's probably not the best idea as it it would go on and on and on. It would be difficult (not impossible) to find a knife that we couldn't find another that looked similar.

Now if you want to truly focus on people ripping off designs why not focus on the guys making knock off CRK and Striders on the auction site? THAT is ripping off someone else's designs...NOT making a folder with carbon fiber, titanium, carbidized lock faces and a ball bearing pivot that looks similar to a fixed blade with NONE of those features or materials.

 

[Steel130]

So buy what you want, no big deal...BUT I'm going to keep on with the negative comments?

I gotta be honest, I've never bothered to take the time to post negative comments on a knife that I didn't buy and had no plans on buying.

We could turn this into a thread in which we all post knives from one maker that look very similar to another...then again that's probably not the best idea as it it would go on and on and on. It would be difficult (not impossible) to find a knife that we couldn't find another that looked similar.

Now if you want to truly focus on people ripping off designs why not focus on the guys making knock off CRK and Striders on the auction site? THAT is ripping off someone else's designs...NOT making a folder with carbon fiber, titanium, carbidized lock faces and a ball bearing pivot that looks similar to a fixed blade with NONE of those features or materials.

So what you are saying is it is okay to make exact copies of Hinderer's folders, but in a fixed blade platform, and it isn't stealing? Of course I will put a hole or two in the blade or something.