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Sasha
I think I am in love with Sasha and her bus.

Old VW's are hard to beat. You can fix ANYTHING on it with a small set of hand tools. Spare parts are pretty cheap. No computers. They go anywhere. And no one else would steal them because people just think "slow".

Subaru, CRV, and others are probably better choices today though.
 
I think I am in love with Sasha and her bus.

Old VW's are hard to beat. You can fix ANYTHING on it with a small set of hand tools. Spare parts are pretty cheap. No computers. They go anywhere. And no one else would steal them because people just think "slow".

Subaru, CRV, and others are probably better choices today though.

Right now I own a VW California T4 Syncro with rear diff lock. I am getting a suspension lift kit and we are already working on a set of custom underride protection aluminum plates. It takes me everywhere I need for climbing and beyond. I already changed the tires for bigger AT ones and got even more clearance.

But, this is not by any means the ultimate VW offroad vehicle. Forget about the Touareg and go have a look on the old T3 Syncro. The 2.1l gas engine with dual locks are sweet. They are selling fairly cheap here in Europe and there is spare parts everywhere. there is a load of videos on youtube as well. They perform way better than the T4 Syncro. Mine being a California is way too heavy as well (but has a bunch of goodies as a camping car!).

Mikel
 
Mine is a 2006 Jeep Rubicon, with 6 speed manual trans. not a lot of room, but will go anywhere!

Gotta agree there, love the off road ability of the Rubi, just cant manage it with the two dogs, kids and the wife.... even with the wife riding in the roof rack :)


Anyone remember the older Madza MPV? The all wheel drive model had lockers available in it... interesting idea if you can find one.
 
4 wheel parts is selling lincoln lockers for only 200 this week. I might be thinking about it.
 
I think I am in love with Sasha and her bus.

BOYS BOYS....... Sasha is not a girls name .... Im a guy and i can pee as far as any one on here LMAO.. This bus Has been to 10,000ft elevation it been to death valley. It seen more dirt and dust then 99% of jeeps out there. It been up to some mountain roads with ruts so deep that the front bumper would scrape. Carried 5 people with enough gear for a week. Been to the Anza Borrigo desert after rain on the way back out had a guy in a jeep ask for help to pull him out... No i didnt pull him out.. All i would have done is dig my self in I did offer to tell the rangers about him so they would help him out... I still get about 22-24mpg and the bus never ever broke down on me..

Sasha
 
here is a pic of my other VW which i use mostly now. Its not as good off road as its heavier but its more roomy and comfy.. I can still get it to places where im all alone with no other people in the area..
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I love desert hiking
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Sasha Da Man
 
Mitsubishi Delica. takes the micro van concept to a whole new off road level. 2.5Lturbo diesel, truck tires. and one of the cheaper imports.
 
Here is the other BOV, besides the cherokee
AWD, but I'm aware of the limitations. I've taken it fourwheeling in some muddy muddy conditions, but thats about it. Might put forester springs to give 4", but that wasn't the point. I can get 30mpg out of it if I go Granny style.

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:thumbup: This was my experience also with up armored vehicles also. I second the KLR's. I've recently upgraded to a BMW Dakar and wish that I never had. The fuel injection is awesome but man I miss my KLR's!



Two motorcycles; something like Kawasaki's KLR 650's...seriously. In an urban escape situation, traffic will be way to crowded to plow through and the weight of all that armor will seriously impeded any off-road maneuvering; as soon as you bust through a major roadblock, make sure you're ready to bug out on foot:eek: We up-armored several of our HMMWV's in Iraq and the weight was unbelievable and the stress on the suspension (even after upgraded) was way too much. A couple of motorcycles could really get you out of tight spots and through terrain most 4X's wouldn't make it. Another option is a compact 4X with a good brushguard...keep it light, fast and maneuverable (and it would get much better gas mileage as well). Escaping urbania during a major crisis is going to be nearly impossible if you attempt when the masses are all gunning for the hills. Best advice is to leave early or hunker down until the masses exterminate themselves and if the government doesn't come in to save you, you could E&E with a much less crowded environment, but probably just as or more hostile...just make sure you have a plan and place to evac to.

ROCK6
 
Honestly my choice would be my 92 Toyota pick up R-22E. Small 4 inch lift, 32's, front and rear detroits, winch, reliable as HELL (Mine has 375Kmiles on it). I think one of it's greatest advantages is it's plain look and its ease of maintenence. It will go anywhere my 03 rubi can.
 
Old VW's are hard to beat. You can fix ANYTHING on it with a small set of hand tools. Spare parts are pretty cheap. No computers. They go anywhere. And no one else would steal them because people just think "slow".


Factor in that, areodynamically, they are the product of a kite, sired by a shoe-box. :(

All surface, light-weight, centered on rear wheels, front leg protection is a layer of sheet metal.

Had a VW Camper. Best use of interior room by a mfr, EVER. But sweetjaysus, it BLEW around the road...skipped over, sometimes...with strong gusts. As I recall, the George Washington Bridge in NY, banned them on gusty days.

As Sasha says, it will go places you just had no reason to believe it would.

Mine got 20mpg, in town or out, slow or fast. Wasn't much fond of steep gradients.

Kids loved it. They were too far back to get a swat when they started in on each other. :)

Great vehicle with major short-comings.




Kis
enjoy every sandwich
 
But, this is not by any means the ultimate VW offroad vehicle.
No doubt about it. But I'm not one of those who thinks a Hummer or Jeep Rubicon is an ideal vehicle. Their complexity and lack of reliability outweigh their offroad prowess, especially given that I don't foresee off road prowess as being particularly necessary. BTW- I have significant time behind the wheel of both.

Armored? Please. Hard to take those comments seriously. Just finished watching Mad Max?

PS- just my luck. Sasha isn't a chic. :(
 
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front leg protection is a layer of sheet metal.
Actually, the front leg protection is the frame, rated for 1 ton of cargo, that is right under the nose. However, the cab forward control does feel precarious, which is in and of itself a safety feature. I was a certified bus freak and I've seen many,many wrecked busses as I trolled the junkyards. They perform very well in front impacts. More of the same: http://www.vanagon.com/info/safety/volvo-crash/index.html

But sweetjaysus, it BLEW around the road...skipped over, sometimes...with strong gusts. As I recall, the George Washington Bridge in NY, banned them on gusty days.
Not bad with the proper tires. The mfg called for a reinforced load range C tire, which about 1 in 150 busses I ever saw had. They were about twice as expensive as the average passenger tire and no one ever had them in stock. So when you went to Tires-R-Us, they gave you a flimsy sidewalled tire designed for an Aries K. Proper tires difference is night and day.

Anyway, I won't bother any of the rest of you with my busphilia.
 
Sasha they did not think you were a girl because of your name but because of your ride:D
 
A few of us have similiar taste in vehicles. I think an XJ would make a pretty good BOV. They have decent power to weight, approach/departure angles and very manuverable. The one big drawback is the interior can be a bit cramped.

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I see a lot of Cherokee hunting rigs this year. They are a great buy on the used market and make a great basis for a mild off roader. I even saw a nice Grand Cherokee Limeted with a baja build. My ex's dad had one of those when they came out and they were ridiculously nice. All leather ,infinity sound system and top of the line everything. They are practically giving them away now.

I have a nice 97 GMC Sierra 2 wheel drive pik up with a 305 and an auto. I would much prefer a standard but they are very hard to find in new trucks especially with a good engine. I would have preferred a 350 but it is basically the same engine and gets better mileage and I have a tranny cooler for towing. It is perfect as a winter truck and for hauling the quad and other stuff. have had 4x4's and found I don't use the option enough to justify the extra expense and complication.

If I needed or wanted a good 4x4 I would not want it as a daily driver. Instead I would find a old diesel blazer or similar and cut the body to fit big tires with no lift and add a detroit locker. Full time 4x4 would also be OK because it would be strictly to the trails
or in bad storms. No lift and cut body with big meats means great clearance with the stock suspension and a much lower centre of gravity. Makes for a much much better handling and better looking truck. Body lifts SUCK ,suspension lifts suck less.


Not having to live with a truck as a daily driver means you can build a very capable off roader much cheaper. Lockers and full time 4X4 are not that bad for short trips on the street and can lower your cost by thousands of dollars.

2 wheel drive trucks can make good off roaders. Most prerunners are 2 wheel drive.
A 80's 2 wheel drive F150 with a beefy suspension ,a mild but healthy 351 ,a 5 speed
31 inch tires or a bit bigger with cut fenders so you have lots of travel and some good home built brush guards and under armour makes a fantastic bush truck that can do everything but rock crawl and is even easy to live with. You can't have an open rear diff though and a good winch is a must.

Either of these builds is well under 10 grand if you can do basic mechanical work and run a welder.
One both of these you sacrifice something ,the first on road drivability ,the second
4 wheel drive.

IFS trucks are great but they are not good candidates for big lifts or serious off roaders.
Upgrade some parts ,fit slightly bigger tires and cut out the inner fenders and your good but they just are not the right choice for a radical build.

I like my mild pick up with a quad.
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The KFX450 sips gas ,feels like a Lamborghini of quads has the coolest 450cc 4 stroke DOHC EFI single ever with electric start and reverse.

One thing I really like is how light it is. 350 pounds means I can throw it around ,load and unload etc easily. I don't worry about it rolling on me or getting it stuck.
An extra bonus of EFI is the much lighter throttle spring which means no thumb ache. My only issue is there are not enough trail aftermarket parts for it. There are a few race ones but not many even because it is new but i would bet more are used on the trail like the Raptors than raced because of the electric start and reverse.


Someone asked about armor?

What some merc companies do is make an armored box that drops in the back of a standard 1ton and mounts usually a Soviet 30 cal belt fed.
Having a guy who can return a lot of fire and can't be taken out by small arms makes even the guys up front a hell of a lot safer even if they don't have armor. The fact they drop in a stock 1 ton makes them relatively cheap.
 
Pretty cool to see all the XJ's out there. along with my YJ and a TJ..:D

I've often times considered trading my YJ in for an XJ, but I enjoy my removable hard top and parking lot manueverability way too much.

Next projects: New springs, Aussie locker...:D
 
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