Busse Combat, How to Right a Wrong!

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I can understand the confusion in reading the site. But what I don’t understand about this kind of thread is why the question just isn’t asked of Busse Combat so they deal with it.

Also about font size, I have fairly poor eyes and I find it way more comfortable to read fonts that are three or larger. Sorry if you think I’m yelling. It is just too difficult to read and edit in the small fonts.
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The knives are custom and so are the sheaths.

Sending your knife in is the best way to get a perfect fit.
 
Tony G said:
Also about font size, I have fairly poor eyes and I find it way more comfortable to read fonts that are three or larger. Sorry if you think I’m yelling. It is just too difficult to read and edit in the small fonts.
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Oh, OK. I was under the impression that you could set the font size for any text from your browser, and that you chose to post in a larger font size than normal.
 
I have an ASH1 SE. I got it trying to get ahead of the ASH1 release. I have three more ASH1's on order. :D

It is easy to adjust the welt for blade thickness. It is a little more work adjusting for thicker scales and kind of dependant on the person with the knife taking good measurements. I also keep numerous templates on knives that I have had on hand to make sheaths for. I make templates for the blades and handles. The hardest knives to do without the actual knife are the custom scaled knives with the hand shaped scales. I wouldnt even try one of those without the knife.

As I acquire more Busse knives, I am finding it easier to fit the handles for knives I dont have as I am getting to the point were I have most handle shapes and thicknesses either on hand or in the form of a template.

Some styles of sheaths are also a little more flexible as far as fit go as it pertains to blade retention.

The Busse way of making knives is hard to stay up with. Lots of handle and blade differences and also custom shaped blades.
 
Matteo Escobar said:
Jaxx,

I think that for people that are not familiar with how Busse Combat works in reality, that line on the web-site could be interpreted as reality. If I had never heard of Busse Combat before, I would take that line to mean that "any one of these makers listed on my site can make you a sheath without you sending it in".

If you are new to Busse, you don't know that there are hundreds of different sized blades, often within the same exact category.

Oh, and your large sized text makes it seem like you are always yelling.
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I agree. The paragraph does say that they can make sheaths without having a knife sent, so either all these sheath makers need to get plastic models or the paragraph on the site needs to be changed to reflect reality.
 
If you read my post that is what I am saying, the wording is as I stated, it is misleading, I also made a suggestion that Busse send plastic replicas of the knives coming out then the dealers could make from that. If not, I do think that they should change the wording on there website and say you will have to send your knife in for a custom sheath.
 
I was under the impression that the ASH-1 CG/LE are a few months off still,right? They are on pre-order so you have plenty of time before you will get it anyhow. Aren't Busses worth the extra wait? Whats a week or two for a sheath really matter. I remember thinking the same thing about the sheaths, then I did some research here and was educated on the procedure. Not a big deal to me anyway.
 
The site says they have Busse knives to work from. It does not say that they have all Busse blades. WHen a sentence is open to interpertation it is necessary to use a bit of common sense and/or logic. No one has every knife of any manufacturer except the manufacturer itself. That being said, most of these sheathmakers have a good amount of patterns and they will tell you which they have and which they do not. I don't think rthis is a big deal. By the way which knife are you attempting to sheath that is giving you so much trouble.
What a great discussion we are having though!
Isn't this more fun than just having the sheath come with the knife?
 
If it is for the ASH-1 don't worry. I am sure the tempalte will be available before you get your sheath. Order from Dwayne and you won't have to worry about getting it for at least 6 months. I just build sheaths for my knives. It is more fun that way and you get exactly what you want.
 
To each his own, we all have our take and to be honest if their site said upfront you have to send your knife away to get a custom sheath, no problem with that at all but again if you go to www.combatknives.com and sheath options and read the first paragraph, it reads that you will not have to send your knife away because Busse provides a knife to the sheath makers.

I suggested Busse send in plastic knives but hell they only have 4 sheath makers on their site, and right now Busse has two models ASH-1 Combat grade and LE so with the two different handles thats 4 knives x 4 sheath makers=16 knives, and they could be loners just until that knife run stops, then they could be returned with a sheath to the Busse Store for sale at the Busse store.(I think their Manager should read my post).

RickJ
 
RickJ said:
If you read my post that is what I am saying, the wording is as I stated, it is misleading, I also made a suggestion that Busse send plastic replicas of the knives coming out then the dealers could make from that. If not, I do think that they should change the wording on there website and say you will have to send your knife in for a custom sheath.
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in the end you may or may not have to send in your knife. when the ash-1's ship, it is a certainty that someone will send in their knife for a sheath to armoral leather, buy brown, and okuden (the three most used makers).

it would be impossible for them to already have a knife that is not yet in the hands of the consumers.

the idea of sending "mock" knives is not a bad idea, but there have been so many releases that storage would be a serious problem.

i never found the language misleading, though i understand why you feel this way.
 
Irregardless of what the site says, and yes it is somewhat misleading...the knife you ordered is not available yet.

This means that sheath makers have to wait just like the rest of us:D

I don't understand what the problem is:confused:
 
If you read the last paragraph in my last post, that would solve any storage problems and would be good for Busse's Business and the Consumers who want to buy there knives.

RickJ
 
Cobalt said:

I agree. The paragraph does say that they can make sheaths without having a knife sent, so either all these sheath makers need to get plastic models or the paragraph on the site needs to be changed to reflect reality.
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RickJ said:
If you read my post that is what I am saying, the wording is as I stated, it is misleading, I also made a suggestion that Busse send plastic replicas of the knives coming out then the dealers could make from that. If not, I do think that they should change the wording on there website and say you will have to send your knife in for a custom sheath.
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Isn't that exactly what Cobalt said? :confused:
 
RickJ said:
...THE WRONG! Busse's site says it provides knives to the sheath dealers so all you have to do is order the sheath. In other words it is pre-fit to the knife you order from Busse!...
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Let's reread this section of the OP's post. The quote above is an excerpt from RickJ in post #1 of this thread. I read & re-read the paragraph on the Busse Combat website "sheaths" page, and it clearly does not say this. IF the ASH-1 CG or LE had already been released, this whole thread would be a non-issue simply because a few sheath makers would have the knives soon after or already, and could 1.) make their templates, and 2.) begin accepting orders, which would mean that you could get a sheath without having to send in your knife. The knife in question has not been released yet. Should the website include a disclaimer that this is true only after a knife has been released? Maybe, but Busse does not control these sheath makers, these sheath makers do not work for Busse in any capacity, and Busse does not make the sheaths. As for plastic knives for making templates, or giving out 'loaners'; who's to say that Busse Combat is at this stage of production yet on the ASH-1 CG's & LE's?

Is it the clearest paragraph that I've ever read? No... But it's not misleading to me, and certainly not what I would label as "wrong" NOR an issue that would likely be covered by Busse Combat's customer service. JMHO, YMMV.
 
I guess you could say that I am agreeing with Cobalt but Cobalt was saying what I said in an earlier post. So I was repeating myself two times. This thread would lead to drinkin if could drink but I can't so I will think about Drinkin!
 
RickJ said:
If you read the last paragraph in my last post, that would solve any storage problems and would be good for Busse's Business and the Consumers who want to buy there knives.

RickJ
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the problem is the need for a particular knife for sheath making does not end with the last order to be taken.

for example, dwayne puckett makes all his sheaths by hand. he likely already has a backlog for combat grade ash-1 sheaths, even though the knives are not available.

he will probably continue to get a significant number of orders for cgash-1 sheaths for quite some time, maybe a couple years, as the knives change hands and as the company store receives their shipments. then after that sporadically as customers acquire a new (to them) knife or want another sheath.

when should he send back the "mock" knife and start having customers send in theirs?

the solution to this is that he keep the mock knives so he always has a template. but if he keeps all the templates, we are right back to where this solution started.


i sympathize, i really do. i have to wait for sheaths as well. part of what turns off some to busse knives is that sheaths are not immediately available.

maybe ive just come to accept this as the nature of the beast.
 
RickJ said:
I guess you could say that I am agreeing with Cobalt but Cobalt was saying what I said in an earlier post. So I was repeating myself two times. This thread would lead to drinkin if could drink but I can't so I will think about Drinkin!
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Finally, something we can all agree on... :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Right on! I am currently taking some meds that prevent me from drinking but as soon as my treatment is over, the drinkin is on! I will have to relive this thread and good a good one on.

RickJ
 
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