Busse craze?

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al g blenny said:
If you are going on a 2 mile hike once a year fine. It's fun to carry that much weight and chop a few branches for no real reason. Backpacking though? I can't imagine anyone would want to lug a NMFBM (or similar) when you could get something MUCH lighter and maybe even more efficient. The NMFBM is an awesome toy but practical? Not really.
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Point taken man, and thanks for the explanation. (I'd still carry it though!) :)
 
I mean, SOG shouldn't be mentioned in the same ZIP CODE as Busse. Come on, now.[/QUOTE]



Well,i was talking in ratio "value for money" term...Of course that AUS -8 however with cryogenic heat treatment is different ball game to INFI,,,, and i was not mentioning this steel to be of higher or same performance at all....I just like some of their designs and consider their blades to be way more reasonably priced,so as Kyzliar....
Speaking of Himalayan Imports or similar manufacturers who does entirely hand forged, custom blades-according to what you say-these does not belong to same "ZIP CODE" with neither of the mass production included Busse,mate....

However i am not like that...I am not "knife brand supremacist"Why? Because many such people are very close minded and may say to you-anything else that is not handmade custom is a mass production junk for them and not worth to even bother to discuss with you some Busse...however,for you,they may be good enough and proven othervise....

Why? Because they would already brand it as a machine made junk that anybody can have or order and therefore its value is big zero to them and brand you personaly also same way as your Busse knife-junk...

I am open minded,always seek to get to know new things and ideas,willing to learn from those,who knows more than i do...What i do not like,is when ego far away exceed personality and those guys who judge others, just because they paid few hundred bucks for knife....and all of a sudden this somehow "buy" them credibility and expertise and becomes experts overnight....This is very hilarious.

I like very wide variety of knifes,from bowies,through khukuries,up to japanese swords.There are good products in each category-wheter it is simple cheap stuff,ordinary middle segment or expensive ones....Also there are some good blades,even they are mass produced and custom made blades too.Fact that something is custom made,does not guarantee too,that it is also good quality....

In order to be able to say,something is good or bad for us,we need to measure that against something and also determine,what we are focused on....is it cutting? Is it chopping? Is it stabbing or thrusting? Is it lateral strength? Is it edge retention? Durability? Etc...Etc...each term is something that can be compared and also measured against its price....Is it worth it? Or is there similar product for more competitive price? This is what we call overal value for money....And that what we had discussion over,,,some guys say Busse is worth every penny and claim that it is superior to everything else and in every possible way included price,durability and says there is no stronger blade than their Busse...

I only disagreed and prove them they are wrong-i was asked to give an example,so i did.You guys knows the blades (at least some of you do) and know very well,that any Busse would be smoked away and no contest to strength,toughness and chopping capability of this firepower i presented to you....You loss your arguments and that's what stirs the pan here.

I am not working for or promoting any company,as i was blamed by some of you.I repeatedly said,i like Busse knifes very much,i respect them so as those guys who makes them,i think they are of extraordinary quality,i only stated,not necessary only best option for money one can buy...I fully respect all of Busse fans and owners,i am one of them too.Many others agree also,there are other avenues to go for and to match the performance with same or better price....

On the end of the day,we all love knifes as the whole lot of us here,knife is long time companion to mankind and one of the greatest tool ever developed for living and support of our daily lifes,wheter in peace or war...

My regards to you all guys

Thanks for all replies,negative or positive ones.
 
I'm not saying SOG is bad when compared to Busse. SOG is just garbage all around. They are famous for rat tail tangs. Do you think that's durable? I would never count on a rat tail tang knife to get me out of a jam. Read more reviews of the company and how many problems people have. SOG does NOT make good knives for the money. That's exactly what you are addressing. Value. What you get for the money. Then you name SOG as the second best knives for the money. Trying not to be rude here but that is what makes most of us say you don't know nearly as much as you think you do.

It's cool if you don't want to tell us what part of the world you live.
 
Some of my older SOG knives are sparkling examples of fit and finish. In particular, I have an old Bowie which was carried in Viet Nam. This well used knife has seen more action than most and does not need defending. Those of you that have the vintage SOG products know what I am referencing here.

What about the Randall model #1? If I close my eyes and pick it up, I am firmly reminded why I love the swell of that expertly designed handle. The more rare six inch configuration is a gorgeous piece of workmanship that served our armed forced well.

I suppose we all like knives for different reasons, and we sport divergent opinions. There are some that just collect, others just use the knives, and yet another group that is enmeshed in a curious mixture of both. Mileage may vary! Years ago there was scant talk of blade superiority although some makers touted their knives as 'better' than the competition. Some custom makers were REALLY adept at heat treating, others charged a premium without the benefit of superior cutting ability.

These days, we are testing and comparing blades at an alarming rate as evidenced by the postings on YouTube. I find some of the videos highly amusing if not totally entertaining. In a sense, I can review a product without having to purchase it and conduct subseqent testing in the field that may prove costly, impractical and borderline silly.

Could God create a stone so large that he could not lift it? Could our pals in Wauseon create a three pound slicer that could rival anything that our Nepalese brothers could create? More food for thought. I say...bring on the contest. But allow knives to be of similar length and width. Then create a test which could be monitored and replicated.

Let us not forget that the lion's share of chopping ability comes from pure skill, technique and power. A strong man coupled with a superb cutting tool can accomplish quite the feat that allows us to marvel. A lesser man, even though equipped with a top shelf cutter, would fall far short of the brass ring.
 
al g blenny said:
Hey Serious, what country are you from? I think it's so cool that there are lots of people from around the globe on here.
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Thanks for asking,well,yes its all knifenuts from all over the globe here i guess,some have visible locations,some not.However,does'nt really matter where we are from.East,west,north or south...
Talking knifes,yes i heard stuff like this about sog knifes,but some of their designes seem very functional reasonably priced,some are not.I 'd still prefer Kyzliar over all, especially within military oriented production....

However,this thread belongs to Busse,so lets keep it that way and leave this to their knifes and opinions,relevant towards them....
 
So, I'm from Houston, TX, USA.

And KIZLYAR knives are good knives. "Especially within Military oriented production?" I don't know what you're referring to. I have owned one Kizlyar knife. A Savage in D2 tool steel. It was a very good knife. It still could not compete with my Busse knives.
 
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shqxk said:
Busse knife does look nice, but obviously overprice and most of them are just too thick behind the edge.

At the same amount of money you can have a better knife if you go custom route. And yes, I do have few Busse.

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Aaaaaaand, I'm still waiting for this guy to post some pics of his well used Busse knives...
 
Seriousbladeno1 said:
Thanks for asking,well,yes its all knifenuts from all over the globe here i guess,some have visible locations,some not.However,does'nt really matter where we are from.East,west,north or south...
Talking knifes,yes i heard stuff like this about sog knifes,but some of their designes seem very functional reasonably priced,some are not.I 'd still prefer Kyzliar over all, especially within military oriented production....

However,this thread belongs to Busse,so lets keep it that way and leave this to their knifes and opinions,relevant towards them....
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You have a friend with a MOAB, can you arrange for a chop off?
Find a ~10" dead three and see which one comes ahead. Until a test is done can't claim superiority based on measurements.
 
mainaman said:
You have a friend with a MOAB, can you arrange for a chop off?
Find a ~10" dead three and see which one comes ahead. Until a test is done can't claim superiority based on measurements.
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Click thru to youtube and read the comments.

[video=youtube_share;AZpmegLZpjg]http://youtu.be/AZpmegLZpjg[/video]

Edited to add: There was a particular comment there by youtube user Henry Ford which has unfortunately been removed in the last few minutes. It was pretty much the same thing that Seriousbladeno1 had said in a previous note in this thread about knives being no match for a 20" HI Khukri. Coincidence? Probably. Then again, probably not.

Aaaaaaaaaand now it's back. I'm all computered out.
 
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mainaman said:
You have a friend with a MOAB, can you arrange for a chop off?
Find a ~10" dead three and see which one comes ahead. Until a test is done can't claim superiority based on measurements.
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Yes i do,however this would be complete waste of time,no bowie blade, lighter and slimmer than khukri,would perform better in chopping,speaking the same in lateral strength comparison....Steel quality depend mainly on heat treatment proces,nothing can be further from truth,claiming class and composition of steel what matters only!!!! Lesser quality steel,will outperform higher grade steel anytime,if its heat treated to better level,so do not underestimate ability of 5160,,,,it is extremly tough steel,when heat treated and it will give INFI steel harsh time in any testing,when heat treated and processed to certain level.Even properties of variety of 5160 and its quality will vary,HI is well known for selecting only the highest quality grade of leaf springs from best sources.

For all this reasons testing smaller,slimmer Moab bowie shaped blade against bigger,thicker, heavier khukuri such as HI CAK in chopping capabilies or any lateral strength etc. is just pure nonsense equal to testing Veyron vs Audi S8 in speed...both are extremly well made,but speaking of speed,Veyron will just leave Audi in dust,for obvious reasons that are clear before any race will start.
 
RobStanley said:
Click thru to youtube and read the comments.

[video=youtube_share;AZpmegLZpjg]http://youtu.be/AZpmegLZpjg[/video]

Edited to add: There was a particular comment there by youtube user Henry Ford which has unfortunately been removed in the last few minutes. It was pretty much the same thing that Seriousbladeno1 had said in a previous note in this thread about knives being no match for a 20" HI Khukri. Coincidence? Probably. Then again, probably not.

Aaaaaaaaaand now it's back. I'm all computered out.
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Rob,
I do not see the comment, but I believe you and I am convinced the MOAB wins in a chop off.
 
Seriousbladeno1 said:
Yes i do,however this would be complete waste of time,no bowie blade, lighter and slimmer than khukri,would perform better in chopping,speaking the same in lateral strength comparison....Steel quality depend mainly on heat treatment proces,nothing can be further from truth,claiming class and composition of steel what matters only!!!! Lesser quality steel,will outperform higher grade steel anytime,if its heat treated to better level,so do not underestimate ability of 5160,,,,it is extremly tough steel,when heat treated and it will give INFI steel harsh time in any testing,when heat treated and processed to certain level.Even properties of variety of 5160 and its quality will vary,HI is well known for selecting only the highest quality grade of leaf springs from best sources.

For all this reasons testing smaller,slimmer Moab bowie shaped blade against bigger,thicker, heavier khukuri such as HI CAK in chopping capabilies or any lateral strength etc. is just pure nonsense equal to testing Veyron vs Audi S8 in speed...both are extremly well made,but speaking of speed,Veyron will just leave Audi in dust,for obvious reasons that are clear before any race will start.
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Agree, and exactly why the claim that such big Khuk is superior to the MOAB is not true. Price wise, the Khuk would be a nice buy for collections and occasional use.
for me the line is drawn at NMFBM, I would get a MOAB one day for pure enjoyment and occasional three slaying but definitely not for camping/long trecking.
 
Rob your videos are always great but I really never understood the need to chop with a knife most of all one with the weight and size of a MOAB or one of the big HI kukris. I mean the Gransfors Scandi Forest Axe weighs less than a MOAB or a large kukri and would easily out chop them. All tools have different purposes so just use what makes you happy in the end isn't that really all that matters.
 
I think the point may be there's nothing a Busse can do that a cheaper knife can't... Whether a khukuri or something else. Big or small, if you wanna blow cash on expensive blades for the fact that it's Busse or whatever go for it. Regardless of steel etc. is it cool to own a Busse knife? Sure. Is it true they're better than any knife that could be had for cheaper?... Lol sounds like someone trying to justify spending so much on a blade.
 
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