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Secondary market for that particular knife has been averaging $500 for a little while now.That is some price gouging right there. $375 to $495.
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Secondary market for that particular knife has been averaging $500 for a little while now.That is some price gouging right there. $375 to $495.
That is some price gouging right there. $375 to $495.
That’s why I showed the Freeman 451 MC, roughly the same dimensions as the Esee 5, but lighter, thinner and stainless.Either way, the OP hasn't answered questions about budget or size requirements.
Sorry, I had to go back to work, but I did say earlier that I decided upon the Cold Steel SRK and SOG pup. I like those options, and I think they will work out fine for me. Thanks.Either way, the OP hasn't answered questions about budget or size requirements.
The SEAL2000 was the larger 7inch version of the 4.75in Seal Pup, It was discontinued in 2005 and replaced with the SEAL TEAM/ST Elite. Those have also been discontinued. The Seal Pup and SP Elite are the only ones remaining in production,A You Tuber reviewed it a while back as a bushcraft and outdoor survival knife and it did well. Surprisingly well, at least to me. Batoning, feather sticks, all that stuff. I think the one knife might do all the things OP is after. But like I said I haven't used it, just remember when it first came out and remember that review.
(There is a larger one (maybe just SOG Seal and no pup) that I might be confusing with the pup?)
I have this on my list of knives to buy if I ever get a boat. It's listed as my "survival knife, littoral" as in, I'd keep it stowed in my floatation bag in case I need to abandon ship gilligan it for a bit.
The Aus6 Seal Pup that was made in Seki Japan until 2005 was highly regarded. It was replaced with the Taiwan made version that used Aus8. I still have and use this knife, However, in 2017 SOG started manufacture of the Seal Pup in China, I would very strongly recommend avoiding these, They have poorer serrations compared to the Taiwan versions, and the metal sheath snap has been replaced with a plastic one. There seems to be both Taiwan(old) and China(newer) stock out there so I would recommend verifying first before buying. Another alternative is the SOG Seal Pup Elite which is still (AFIK) made in Taiwan.Sorry, I had to go back to work, but I did say earlier that I decided upon the Cold Steel SRK and SOG pup. I like those options, and I think they will work out fine for me. Thanks.
+1 for the rust resistance. I stuck my Mora pro in this steel in a glass of extremely salty water I made and it was unharmed14C28N is a great steel! it is cheaper than a lot of super steels but it is also a lot better than a lot of super steels. It just gets a bad rap as a cheaper steel which it is. Tougher than Magnacut and the resistance is almost the same.
I agree. I spent years in Latin America and almost every blade in use by locals in the fields and on the beaches and boats were simple carbon steel. One would think Kabars, bayonets, and machete’s just rusted into dust piles in the jungles in they way some people talk. I am a huge fan of MagnaCut, but frequently carry non-stainless fixed blades in lousy conditions.I don’t understand the concern over rust on a using blade. The light amount of staining That you would see over a couple of days can be easily wiped off.
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A lot of cheaper options in 14C28N also.
I never cut on quality and performance with lifesaving tools, but saving money helps!
Good info. Isn't 2017 around when the Elite model showed up? I almost think they just kept the Taiwan plants operational, labeled them "Elite" and made a lower-tier Chinese version that was given the regular name. Just speculating, but it "feels" true.However, in 2017 SOG started manufacture of the Seal Pup in China, I would very strongly recommend avoiding these, They have poorer serrations compared to the Taiwan versions, and the metal sheath snap has been replaced with a plastic one. There seems to be both Taiwan(old) and China(newer) stock out there so I would recommend verifying first before buying. Another alternative is the SOG Seal Pup Elite which is still (AFIK) made in Taiwan.
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I'm a big fan of 14C28N. As others have said, it is one of the toughest stainless blade steels. It has excellent corrosion resistance. Edge retention is decent. While the total edge life is closer to AUS-8, I feel that the quality of the edge is better over the course of that life. It is also one of the friendlier steels to sharpen.
Price is another benefit. I haven't tried the Joker knives mentioned above but I've seen them in the ballpark of $100. If you want to spend more than $150, you might just skip production knives altogether. I'd recommend checking out the fixed blade section of the KnifeMaker's Market here on the Knife Exchange. You might also reach out toDavid Mary .
BTW, one of my favorite budget fixed blades in 14C28N is the Ruike Jager. The beautifully stonewashed blade is just shy of 4.5" and the handle is more comfortable than it looks. The sheath is only okay but it comes with an excellent belt attachment that lets you quickly change orientation with a locking tab. You can find these at dealers for like $70-80. Here is a picture of mine. (LMK if you'd like to see pics of stuff I've picked up from makers on the exchange, including David.)
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It depends what you are doing. I live in a rainforest by the ocean. And we have cyclones. So massive rain, high humidity, high heat.Oil is cheaper than a new knife.
Definitely cheaper than two new knives.
There are lots of folks who work in the woods without Magnacut.