can someone explain to me why there is a maxpedition boycott?

Blue Jays
Thx for the compliment, I hope to be able to participate in other areas on the forum.

If you like Busse knives then check out
http://www.rangerknives.com/
Yes he is a Ranger and I believe he bought a bunch of Busse blanks a while back. I plan on getting one soon, most likely the RDS 6"
chad
 
Interesting that most of this centers around what Mick did 10 years ago, or what other people have said about him. No of his detractors can say anything on what he is doing now, which is running a very successful business and freely giving gear to troops in need

I really haven’t heard anyone say that currently Kevin M isn’t still an ******* and since others have keep throwing around the term pedophile there is only one person in this debate that has had anything to do with kids and that is Kevin and friends buy putting out Mick’s kids personal information on the web. I don’t know what you would call a person that would knowingly expose to kids to this kind of BS, but I know it wouldn’t be good.
 
Blue Jays said:
Hi BrandonLeeMcKinley-

After your insulting response earlier in the thread I absolutely appreciate your well-reasoned and courteous post above. That is the great thing about the United States in that we can allocate our money as we see fit. Enjoy your knives, too. :)

~ Blue Jays ~

In the above posts I was angry because my friend was being wronged for a second time in not so many months, by the same bunch of malcontents it seemed. And it is hard to deal with things like this from behind a keyboard, would I convince you in person, no probably not, but faces make a big difference in conversations... arguments, debates, whatever..... As I said following that post I got mad..... other than calling you an idiotic backwater bird there is nothing there I would apologize for. So there ya go, "My apologies for calling you an idiotic back water bird."
 
Horned Toad said:
Interesting that most of this centers around what Mick did 10 years ago, or what other people have said about him. No of his detractors can say anything on what he is doing now, which is running a very successful business and freely giving gear to troops in need.

I would also add to this list delivering on government contracts on time, being a great father to his children, and a great friend to many, even quite a few who have never met him.....
 
Oh my ever loving god. I've always been almost embarrassed that I was part of the XX sect because we are so prone to irrational and emotional outburst... up until this recent sequence of events.

My god. There are MEN out there acting like little girls.

The facts are out there. If you don't want to put in the time to research it and get your own facts, step down and don't comment. Making conclusions based on someone ELSES opionions is the laziest, most unintelligent thing you can do. If you give a rats ass about this situation, put the time in and form your own opinion. If you cant be bothered, shut up and stand down.

The bottom line is, there is a VERY small band of people here trying to cause a problem. I have watched them jump from forum to forum to forum trying to stir it up and further their own agenda. Each time the public grows weary and casts you aside. You people have far too much time on your hands and require attention that is otherwise not being provided to you via a positive venue of attention. Get a hobby, or focus on your business. IOW, get a life. You are running out of forums.

Cliff Stamp - although I have NEVER agreed with you from a semantics POV, I understand where you come from foundationally. It's nice to see you have no blinders insofar as you apply your logic accross the board. If I could give you a rep point I would, but strangely I don't have that ability anymore. Perhaps it's because I am a silent student here, and do not post enough. Regardless, consider it done.

As for Kevin and posse, et al: Although there is a "professional courtesy" recently agreed upon between he and I, this does not stop me from pointing out the following: His forum is considerably flawed. It is edited constantly ad nauseum. If you follow any of those links, you will find a partial picture. Why? Because when all this went down, he SHUT DOWN REGISTRATION to his forum (under the guise of a technical difficulty). Basically, he shut down the ability of anyone to voice a dissenting POV. It's like a very scared child, sitting up in the window of their house flinging feces at everyone down below, but not coming out to the yard to discuss it mano-y-mano. As much as I respect his knives and his training, I can't respect those tactics. How do YOU feel about a person that ties someones hands behind their back and then repeatedly takes shots to their mouth? Me? I'm just a girl. But that doesn't sit well with me at all.

He has locked his threads. He has edited his and others posts... he has made some data completely disappear. Yep, that's an even playing field. At Badlands, at least, its all out there. Much like here. The good, the bad, the ugly. It's not hidden. Mick's DD-214 was out there for 48 hours for people to see... and yet still Kevin refuses to address his "this-many-years... no-that- many years... (or there about)"... professional soldier status (that acutally boils down to no military status at all, but something along the lines of "marketing" for "Target-Ninja-Co". Confuscious has many saying in this regard. But basically, the boy in the glass house should probably hold onto his stones (if he has any).

Kevin wont venture out into the real world to address these issues. He locks the world out of his tiny world when he points his big ole finger. Instead he has minions that post but "wont accept replys".

You figure it out.

I'm a damn girl for chrissakes and I've got it figured already.

Parker, et al: Go back to what you guys do best. Use your collective intelligence and investigative skills to do what you are better served to do: Help children with cancer. Expose bad body armour that puts cops at risk. But stop using that talent and collective IQ for negative, jealous, and mean-spirited actions.

Quite frankly, people are tired of you trying to force your agenda down their throat. 50% disagree, and 40% just dont care. From a business POV, that means you REALLY should move on.

My girlfriends would have figured this out long ago. And that's pretty sad.

m1
 
Why don't you guys argue via Email. He did this...he did that...who gives a phuck.
Nothing anyone says will stop me from buying Strider knives. Let it rest. Email each other.
 
I am by no means a bible thumper....but this just came to my mind : "Let those free of sin cast the first stone!"
 
M1, I love ya. :D

I know Mick Strider. I would stand beside him any day.
 
Lets think for a minute....

For any of those that insist on publicly stating that they will refrain from purchasing Strider products with this newly found knowledge, think about this.......What would have happened if you had discovered this thread after your purchase or never had discovered this new knowledge?

Now I don't care about your views....I want you to think about what you WOULD have done.........YES, you would have bought that Strider you've been wanting.

I don't care which Strider....were almost there....

Now think about why you wanted it. Think about why Strider knives was in your mind to begin with, ESPECIALLY for those of you who know NO ONE AT STRIDER! ESPECIALLY Mick Strider! :eek: Wow, those are still the same....aren't they....AREN'T THEY!


I'm not going to argue with anyone. Its not worth my time. :grumpy: Buy what you want, leave what you don't, more for ME! :cool:


I support Strider knives and Mr. Strider completely.
 
BrandonLeeMcKinley said:
Stropper what is your play in this... I mean your in Europe right, why do you care? Far be it from to try and correct someone who supports a former child CIA prodigy.

This may surprise you, but we can buy Striders in Europe too.
(yes, we even have electricity!)
You're not one of those people who think the Dutch wear wooden shoes, are you?

As far as McClung is concerned; where did I support him?
I can't possibly take that man seriously and all I ever got from his CIA child prodigy fairytale was a good laugh.

BTW: I made sure to call his investigation into Mick's life "despicable" in my first post.

In my book, McClung and Stider are in the same league.
(And I'm probably still buying an SNG , go figure!)
 
FWIW a convicted felon, short of a presidential pardon, does NOT get his rights back after 7 yrs or 70 yrs lol, i dont know why folks think this, or where it came from, but that is hogwash. they can vote 5 yrs after being released from prison/parole/probation, but lose all firearms rights for life, also a convicted felon cant enlist in the military, cant be executor of a will, is not eligible for a fair number of professional licences, lotsa little things. i dont agree with this (branding a person for life for youthfull indiscretions that in most cases harmed no one ie drug possesion) but thats the way it is, was why i wondered how strider can teach a class involving firearms, if he is he better watch out felon in possesion of FA is a 5 yr mandatory sentence under federal law. you cannot petition to regain them, of that i am 110% sure.

all of ya folks who think branding someone for life is so great consider a fair amount of recidivism in our CJ system is caused by ex felons who cant get licences/hired for a decent job/etc/etc who say F- it and go back to crime vs trying to live a honest and productive life. child molesters/violent criminals i can understand but simple drug offenses?? come on.......

also dont understand the uproar about posting his kids info on the net, have they been threatened/harrased or what, really thats pretty easy info to find out anyway in this day/time, for anyone who would wanna know. sure i agree its not a friendly thing to do but its not the end of the world, unless i missed something (ie threats/harrassment/etc) about the uproar. what have they been "exposed" to? some pedophile who surfs knife forums looking for vics?? again, come on now.
 
stropper said:
This may surprise you, but we can buy Striders in Europe too.
(yes, we even have electricity!)
You're not one of those people who think the Dutch wear wooden shoes, are you?

As far as McClung is concerned; where did I support him?
I can't possibly take that man seriously and all I ever got from his CIA child prodigy fairytale was a good laugh.

BTW: I made sure to call his investigation into Mick's life "despicable" in my first post.

In my book, McClung and Stider are in the same league.
(And I'm probably still buying an SNG , go figure!)

Really? Electricity? Oh my gosh.... And you are telling me the Dutch don't wear clogs anymore either, oh for shame..... all those poor Dutchies with bear feet, the horror..... Next.

Not only are Mick Strider and MadDog(the CIA wonderboy) not in the same league, they are miles apart. Mick did not start this, he didn't ask for it. He made mistakes and paid for them... end of story! He went on to make a successful business and people make stories up all the time about what they think is true. The story in question was from a magazine that the writer said was edited by an editor. And Mick has been backed by more Rangers during this thing then I can count. I don't personally care if you buy a Strider or not. As for what is on the mind of the average user of a Strider knife I can't tell you and I don't think Mick could either, but if you let him MadDog will tell you what is on your mind..... then again you said you don't have much use for him either... so what is your piece in this again?
 
SIFU1A said:
FWIW a convicted felon, short of a presidential pardon, does NOT get his rights back after 7 yrs or 70 yrs lol, i dont know why folks think this, or where it came from, but that is hogwash. they can vote 5 yrs after being released from prison/parole/probation, but lose all firearms rights for life, also a convicted felon cant enlist in the military, cant be executor of a will, is not eligible for a fair number of professional licences, lotsa little things. i dont agree with this (branding a person for life for youthfull indiscretions that in most cases harmed no one ie drug possesion) but thats the way it is, was why i wondered how strider can teach a class involving firearms, if he is he better watch out felon in possesion of FA is a 5 yr mandatory sentence under federal law. you cannot petition to regain them, of that i am 110% sure.

all of ya folks who think branding someone for life is so great consider a fair amount of recidivism in our CJ system is caused by ex felons who cant get licences/hired for a decent job/etc/etc who say F- it and go back to crime vs trying to live a honest and productive life. child molesters/violent criminals i can understand but simple drug offenses?? come on.......

also dont understand the uproar about posting his kids info on the net, have they been threatened/harrased or what, really thats pretty easy info to find out anyway in this day/time, for anyone who would wanna know. sure i agree its not a friendly thing to do but its not the end of the world, unless i missed something (ie threats/harrassment/etc) about the uproar. what have they been "exposed" to? some pedophile who surfs knife forums looking for vics?? again, come on now.

While you are correct about the firearms to some extent, you are not completely correct.

Whether a person has had his or her civil rights restored for a state conviction is determined by state and NOT federal law.

4. However, (this "however" is the first of two elusive parts of the analysis) federal law requires that for federal law to recognize the state restoration of rights, the state restoration must include the right to vote, the right to seek and hold public office, and the right to serve on a jury. (5)

5. If the state restoration of rights includes the three aforementioned rights the federal law contains an additional federal "unless" clause which looks to state law to see if the state imposes any restriction on the right of the convicted felon to possess a weapon (e.g., some states such as North Carolina prohibit the subsequent possession of a handgun but would allow the individual to possess a rifle or shotgun).

6. If there is some added firearms restriction under state law then (and here is the second elusive part of the analysis) the federal "unless" clause is triggered to make the possession of any firearms unlawful under federal law notwithstanding the state's restoration of civil rights. Thus, if the state says that a restored-rights felon may possess a shotgun but not a pistol, the state has allowed the felon to possess the shotgun under state law BUT, because the state has created some firearm restriction for a convicted felon, this means that the federal prohibition applies with full force notwithstanding a state restoration of rights. Thus, in the shotgun-pistol example, that person could be convicted under federal law for possession of the shotgun even though it would be perfectly lawful under state law.

As for the time frame (7 years) that is from the state of Nevada NRS code. Each state does what it wants to. And lets leave drugs out of this less somebody (the CIA wonderboy) might make it part of his diatribe. As for posting personal information about his children, your right it may have done no harm what so ever..... in fact why don't you post our kids personal information where all can read it and then you will be on the same page... except you would have chosen to post that info. Sure it is available but only to those that know how and those that do really know how to do it don't usually go looking for children in the places where this information is located.
 
BrandonLeeMcKinley said:
Not only are Mick Strider and MadDog(the CIA wonderboy) not in the same league, they are miles apart.

You're right, a more suitable comparison is Mick Strider/Paul Basal.

Both of them were prepared to live a lie, just to sell knives.
One of them fabricated his own lies, the other allowed lies about him to be repeated for years and enjoyed the status they got him.

BrandonLeeMcKinley said:
so what is your piece in this again?

I hate the fact that BS sells knives.
Too many companies/knifemakers are mentioning their connections to the military or the units using their knives.
How many "official seal knives" do you know of ?
How many martial arts instructors, snipers, etc... actually had a hand in designing the knife that sports their name?
Do they think we're idiots?

Mick and Basal took that kind of deception even further.
Armchair warriors just ate it up.
(That's also the reason why probably 90% of all striders ever sold are still NIB and will remain that way.)
 
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