can someone explain to me why there is a maxpedition boycott?

Strider is the leading tactical maker in the U.S.,so others are jealous and
will do anything to hurt them.I support Mick and Duane for service to their
country and their products, which are excellent.
Powernoodle-Your profile omits your real name and location.Since you
posted other names,please post yours,and your military service.
 
Hi All-

I'm thankful for powernoodle's quick overview as to what this "issue" was all about. I think he/she did a great job of encapsulating the available information. The semi-interesting story was explained and now I'm off to other things of greater importance.

Sky Masterson, powernoodle has already said that he would purchase a Strider knife if he had the money to do it. He/she is supportive of both companies, so there is no need to provide name, location, rank, and serial number. Many of us don't share our personal information on the Internet for a variety of reasons.

~ Blue Jays ~
 
OK, since this thread hasn't been closed....yet.

What kind of 'protest' are you really making by cutting the label off a product - but KEEPING and USING the product? (Because, as has been explained elsewhere, "...good money was already spent for a good product.") I just don't get that. I guess some people's convictions are more flexible if there are dollar signs attached.

Now, someone please close this thread. Quick. :)
 
Hi cockroachfarm-

This has been a very informative thread that has educated me about a temporary situation about which I was previously ignorant. As long as people aren't calling each other nasty names there really isn't a need to close it down, is there?

~ Blue Jays ~
 
> Sky wrote: Since you posted other names,please post yours,and your military service.

Sky (or whatever your real name is): I actually did not post names. I posted a name, Mick Strider, whose tale of woe was previously told on the internet by, well, Mick Strider. So I haven't revealed any state secrets. But you know this. About 8000 people had already heard of this Maxpedition thing before I heard about it yesterday.

Your request for me to reveal my curriculum vitae seems to suggest that I either have a hidden agenda or am some kind of Mall Ninja. If so, you are incorrect on both counts. I am also not compelled to discuss my personals in a forum like this. Strider chose to do so, which is fine and dandy. I chose not. I suspect that you have not found anything I said to be inaccurate, so instead you intimate that something sneaky must be going on.

I will go so far as to say that I'm a forty-something year old gov't lawyer with a wife and more than one progeny; I teach a Sunday School classroom full of 3 year olds each week; I carry a 1911; and I believe the Constitution should be literally interpreted and that it says what it says. My current favorite knife is a lowly mini-grip. Thats about all you're going to get out of me on a first date like this.

Brother Gollnick has asked in a very polite way (which I appreciate) that we move on, so that is what I shall do.

best regards

[Edited for grammer. :)]
 
sky masterson said:
Strider is the leading tactical maker in the U.S.,so others are jealous and
will do anything to hurt them.I support Mick and Duane for service to their
country and their products, which are excellent.
Powernoodle-Your profile omits your real name and location.Since you
posted other names,please post yours,and your military service.
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What on earth would someones military service have to do with an opinion? I served and I can tell you that 99% of the guys I was with couldn't tell a good knife from a kick in the nads. Furthermore, if you aked then why its a good knife none of them could have told you. So, this 'Hey Mr. XXX was a XXXX in the XXXXXX Forces' so he must really know what he is doing/talking about is just marketing, nothing more.
 
No, but we can move it to TGB&U ...
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Temper said:
What on earth would someones military service have to do with an opinion?
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ROTF.

I've served, and would like to know that answer too. :D

What I’ve been able to decipher, over the years, is that in certain "circles". . . .one MUST have served to have validity. . . .even though that rule was made by some and accepted by most in the "circles" have never served.

Confused ? Me too. :D





powernoodle. . . . .I like your style ! :D
 
sky masterson said:
Powernoodle-Your profile omits your real name and location.Since you
posted other names,please post yours,and your military service.
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LOL, this is the lamest thing I've ever read. :D
 
Torz-The reason for my post is that it is rather cowardly to say "the claim
that Strider was....." while not willing to disclose your own name is hiding behind your computer.I would not say anything on a forum that i would not

say to that person face to face.
I think powernoodle may not know "forum ethics" after being on B.F. for
1 month.
The people at Strider Knives and their customers are some of the finest
people i know.Most soldiers who served as Army Rangers have my respect
and admiration.I served in the army for 6 years,& Rangers are the best of them.People who criticize them are generally those who never served.
Torz,Most military people,outdoorsman,hunters etc, know their knives and the only thing lame is your brain. :)
 
Sky -

Let me first retract that thing about liking you. I had brain freeze for a moment and tried to give you the benefit of the doubt. My bad.

Regarding my use of the phrase "the claim that Strider was" blah blah blah, I was greatly understating things. Strider himself stated the he was a jailbird, that he changed his name, and so on. They aren't my claims, they are Strider's statements about himself. Strike one.

As for forum ethics, don't patronize me and act like I'm a newby. Look again at when I joined this place - it wasn't this year as you incorrectly stated. But whether I've been here 14 months or 14 years is irrelevant given that everything I stated herein is completely accurate and has run afoul of no ethical guideline, real or imagined. I recounted the basis of the Maxpedition boycott based on what Strider said in a public forum (badlands.com) about himself. Thats anything but unethical. Its highly ethical to go straight to the source and state what the source said, which is what I did. Strike two.

Lastly, I'll state again that I don't give a rat's hiney about Maxpedition or Strider or you for that matter. Don't know any of you, and don't care. I was just relaying the facts to the unwashed masses who kept hearing how they were supposed to boybott Maxpedition but weren't told why. And if you think I'm supposed to pretend that a convict isn't a convict because he served in the military 15 years ago, you are wrong on that one too. Service in a past life doesn't relieve one of comporting with societal norms back here in the real world. Strike three.

I grow weary.

best regards

Edited only for spelling.
 
Blue Jays said:
.....As long as people aren't calling each other nasty names there really isn't a need to close it down, is there?...
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Naw, of course not - that was said mostly tongue in cheek.

The part I don't understand is cutting the label off but continuing to use the product! To each his own, but my 'principles' simply aren't that flexible.

A few years ago, I learned something about the inhumane working conditions in the factories of a certain sports wear manufacturer and I threw everything in my house with their logo on it in the trash. I didn't just paint over the logo on the T-shirts or rip off the embroidery on the ball caps - it all went out. My convictions are worth more - to me - than a few hundred dollars worth of "stuff".

As I said, I don't understand the part about ripping off the labels but continuing to use the product. I guess I just don't get it. :confused:
 
Powernoodle, if I could green chicklet you... myself and probably a few others would have by now. I like your style, even if you are a lawyer. ;) (now don't go jumpin' on me again JSMatos! :p ) Since you are a 1911 man, I can tell you have class and style too.

Going to make some popcorn, see if ol' Sky has a rebuttal in him. :D
 
We appreciate powernoodle's summary of the situation, as well as his tact.

Sky Masterson, BFC does not require its members to reveal personal information on the forums. Most individuals have a real reason for keeping themselves annonymous; myself included. As such, no one here has to reveal their name to validate what they post. Most have B.S. detectors that do a great job of that.

Mick Strider answered his 'accusers' by validating the information ; in other words, he agreed himself that the claims were true, and made no attempt to hide those facts. I commend him for standing up and admitting these things. (I read the threads posted at badlands; i'm banned from the USN, so I didn't personally see what was posted there.) His 'accusers' were more than the owner of Maxpedition. Do a search at either of the aforementioned forums for the players.

The bottom line here is that yes, Mick Strider has a troubled past; he admitted this himself. Yes, Mick Strider makes an excellent knife, just as other makers do. Yes, Maxpedition gear is excellent in its own right, even though it is sewn up in Taiwan. The other players are also involved in the industry, and they also have good products. Bashing or boycotting any of these products only hurt you, the consumer, by limiting your options on good equipment.

There is a motive to this madness; perhaps jealousy plays a good part, but I have this feeling there is more to the story than any of us will know.

Please remain on topic, and as long as there are no flame wars here, we'll leave the thread open.
 
Powernoodle.......ROTFLMAO! This has to be some of the funniest stuff I've looked at in some time. Thank you Sir for the laughs! :thumbup:
 
Actually the whole story has not been told.
The owner of maxpedition was only part of a quartet involved but there's more.
Mick admits that the info is true, in fact many of us knew most of it before. You either like him or you dont and you like the knives or you dont.

But what they also did was email to alot of people and post on forums the documents from his divorce and child custody battles and they didnt black out his kids names or addresses. That is just wrong. Do you want your kids names and addresses made public to thousands of unknown people?

Holgar, I believe the thinking behind cutting the tags off was not to advertise for them. If you already own the item, the company has already made their money and lose nothing if you throw it away.

Here at BF I am not advocating either way what folks should do, make your own decisions, but get all the facts out there.
 
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