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Cancelling membership with Knives Emporium
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Just my .02...
I thought the giveaway in and of itself was a good gesture. They were a paying dealer, and they were essentially paying extra (the GAW prizes) to advertise to their target demographic (knife enthusiasts). There was a self-promotion element to it, but they weren't being aggressive or intrusive (they weren't preemptively spamming every user, and the newsletter was opt-in). They were getting something, but they were also offering something in return.
Now this whole business of the Knives Emporium itself signing up for multiple accounts and having one of those accounts "win" their own giveaway is patently disgusting. No dealer/member/user is obligated to give away free knives, but running a high profile giveaway to drum up business for yourself with no intention of actually delivering the prize is dishonest and dishonorable.
Kudos to the forum member that tied the domain registration info to a post from one of the KE accounts. And to the mods for finding all the duplicate accounts. Excellent sleuthing!
I thought the giveaway in and of itself was a good gesture. They were a paying dealer, and they were essentially paying extra (the GAW prizes) to advertise to their target demographic (knife enthusiasts). There was a self-promotion element to it, but they weren't being aggressive or intrusive (they weren't preemptively spamming every user, and the newsletter was opt-in). They were getting something, but they were also offering something in return.
Now this whole business of the Knives Emporium itself signing up for multiple accounts and having one of those accounts "win" their own giveaway is patently disgusting. No dealer/member/user is obligated to give away free knives, but running a high profile giveaway to drum up business for yourself with no intention of actually delivering the prize is dishonest and dishonorable.
Kudos to the forum member that tied the domain registration info to a post from one of the KE accounts. And to the mods for finding all the duplicate accounts. Excellent sleuthing!
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I've been seriously wondering if they ever had a hinderer or any of thehigh end or custom knives they show "sold" on their site. It is looking like a bait and switch and shill game to me. And it looks like they're viewing this thread right now.
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No doubt! 6 fake accounts so he could rig his own giveaway. Thats just greasy
What a * slime ball.
It's easy to say this now that this has happened. But I always looked at them as a Johnny come lately. Then the stole Vince's website layout , not a crime but in very poor form. I look at most giveaways the same.. Why ? Because you want people to like and the only way to do that is to give them free things.
For me to like you as a retailer just give me fair prices fast shipping and no BS and respond to my emails in a timely fashion and your TOPS in my book.
I'm glad they got caught and I'm glad that they are gone.
For me to like you as a retailer just give me fair prices fast shipping and no BS and respond to my emails in a timely fashion and your TOPS in my book.
I'm glad they got caught and I'm glad that they are gone.
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If I implied any support of KE, it was completely unintentional. They (KE) have been banned from this forum, and I had them (KE) cancel my account and delete all my personal information in their possession.
My suggestion was not that KE have another giveaway to make up for this particular giveaway debacle, but that KE should give a XM-24 to BladeForums (Ken C.) with no strings attached. Then BladeForums could do with it as they see fit.
If I implied that this would remedy the dishonest and despicable actions on the part of KE, I apologize as this was not my intent. However, it would at least be an act of contrition. Trust, once lost, is very difficult to regain.
But most likely, they will simply change the name of their business and continue in their ways.
I happen to know the owner of KE personally, and I know him as an honorable man.
I also know that on internet sites such as this one opinions can snowball out of proportion, thereby breeding more opinions that snowball out of proportion, and on and on into the night!
1. If anyone had bothered to check with all of the previous winners of the knife giveaway, you would find that none of them were affiliated with the company.
2. A mistake was made in this last instance because the company was not careful enough to make sure that no employee or family member of an employee could register to win the prize for the latest drawing. A MISTAKE. A mistake that I am positive will never happen again.
3. The way KE has been treated on this forum since this incident took place has been, to say the least, embarrasing. I certainly hope that none of you would ever make an honest mistake, get charged for it, and then convicted without being able to lay out the true facts to the factfinder.
4. As for stealing software, many people do not know that the founder of KE is a brilliant computer person who developed this very same software for large companies years and years ago. Moreover, forum software is now an off the shelf item, and anyone can purchase this type of software and start a forum if they so desire.
I also know that on internet sites such as this one opinions can snowball out of proportion, thereby breeding more opinions that snowball out of proportion, and on and on into the night!
1. If anyone had bothered to check with all of the previous winners of the knife giveaway, you would find that none of them were affiliated with the company.
2. A mistake was made in this last instance because the company was not careful enough to make sure that no employee or family member of an employee could register to win the prize for the latest drawing. A MISTAKE. A mistake that I am positive will never happen again.
3. The way KE has been treated on this forum since this incident took place has been, to say the least, embarrasing. I certainly hope that none of you would ever make an honest mistake, get charged for it, and then convicted without being able to lay out the true facts to the factfinder.
4. As for stealing software, many people do not know that the founder of KE is a brilliant computer person who developed this very same software for large companies years and years ago. Moreover, forum software is now an off the shelf item, and anyone can purchase this type of software and start a forum if they so desire.
Haha, really? Expect us to believe that. And if it was a mistake why not get out in front of it and redraw another name, not like you wouldn't recognize your own email!
Look, George, may I call you George
; KE played the game and got caught, plain and simple. The evidence speaks for itself.If you got some other "Facts" go ahead and throw them down... cause I can here the hammer coming....
So what about IhaveThisItch or whatever name he goes by now selling NIB knives constantly in the exchange w/o a Dealer Membership? He always have NIB ZTs and others, A regular member certainly doesn't have over 20+ 0560/0561 and 0551s just sitting around ...that's pretty messed up too IMO. People pay good $$$ to be able to sell here and make a living.
Sorry for bad pics but you get the idea..Also funny the last knife he sold was a XM24..
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The past 4 posts prove my first point. 3 people who do not know all of the facts have decided to continue to sling mud.
1. How many times I post here has nothing to do with whether I know the owner of BE
2. His name isn't George. Do you use your name? Doesn't look like it to me unless mothers are now naming their babies
Shooter01 and Cicatriz.
3. Although I have not asked him, I am sure that he would conduct another raffle or drawing here without hesitation but he cannot do so because people like the last 3 posters and many more have made such a big deal out of this so as to have him removed from the site. Certainly the owners of the site are entitled to do what they want, but I think in this instance they were persuaded more by mob sentiment than they were by fact. The fact remains that a MISTAKE was made by failing to do enough due diligence to make sure that nobody affiliated with the company could win a prize. That is it folks. If you have never made a mistake in your life, please tell me about it.
4. Why am I sure that this was a mistake. Well, for one I was told so. But independently of that, I know this man to be a very intelligent individual. He would not risk any of his businesses for such a cheap item as one knife. The goodwill he has lost because of this mistake is worth thousands of times more than the stupid knife he gave away, and he isn't stupid enough to try and get away with something like this. Again, it was a mistake, and nothing more.
1. How many times I post here has nothing to do with whether I know the owner of BE
2. His name isn't George. Do you use your name? Doesn't look like it to me unless mothers are now naming their babies
Shooter01 and Cicatriz.
3. Although I have not asked him, I am sure that he would conduct another raffle or drawing here without hesitation but he cannot do so because people like the last 3 posters and many more have made such a big deal out of this so as to have him removed from the site. Certainly the owners of the site are entitled to do what they want, but I think in this instance they were persuaded more by mob sentiment than they were by fact. The fact remains that a MISTAKE was made by failing to do enough due diligence to make sure that nobody affiliated with the company could win a prize. That is it folks. If you have never made a mistake in your life, please tell me about it.
4. Why am I sure that this was a mistake. Well, for one I was told so. But independently of that, I know this man to be a very intelligent individual. He would not risk any of his businesses for such a cheap item as one knife. The goodwill he has lost because of this mistake is worth thousands of times more than the stupid knife he gave away, and he isn't stupid enough to try and get away with something like this. Again, it was a mistake, and nothing more.
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1. The implication was this is just another spam account of the KE or his 'crew' not that you don't know the owner. I believe you know him, very, very well probably
2. He conducts a business and uses a false name to sign all his post? Sounds like a guy I want to give my money to.
3. Again, he knew the winner wasn't legit, he could had redrawn another name and got out in front of this. Instead "George", or whatever the hell his name is, chose to defend the drawing as is and claim it was jealousy that fueled the "witch-hunt" as he called it.
The email of the winner was the same email as the the one who registered the KE site. That's not a mistake...:thumbdn:
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don't want to get into it.Done andddd done, as per my NEW knives emporium info.... you can now call me Ned Flanders
Seriously though, this is bad business on their part and I can only hope that there is repercussions to their actions.
lol I love it! I'm now Hank Hill
PS I find it hilarious that a guy by the username of Rusty Shackleford exposed these frauds for who they are
If you look in this thread you will see he has the same email as the winner.
His name is Roland.
Look at Rusty's post to see the matching email.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1062148-The-Hinderer-giveaway-disaster
Appears his full name is ROLAND ROESBEKE
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You keep saying "A Mistake" , how many fake accounts are we talking about here ?
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...s-will-feed-the-fish!?p=12126929#post12126929
Are all those banned accounts KE staff/affiliated trying to win a free knife here ?
Hang on,, not trying,, succeeding in winning a knife ^
1234,,,
From FB.
It is more than evident at this moment that we are under fire of running a giveaway under false pretenses, most specifically, the Bladeforums exclusive XM-24 giveaway.
Now I'm not here to whine or pout or to try to give excuses. Many accusations have been made, some of them justly so, many, not. If anything we are to blame as the many concerns that were brought up on the forum were NOT promptly addressed and was neglected by us. That said, I'm asking the community to give us a chance--not to "redeem" ourselves as in the minds of many, we're already considered trash, but to explain the entirety of this giveaway situation. As I feel, though you may not agree, that one should always give the benefit of the doubt.
This situation, even a "scandal" as one could put it, grew quickly through the course of a few days and we had not the patience nor the time to address all the different accusations. Regardless, we are not excused nor exempt from neglecting them. Yet as as much fault we may be, the community is NOT aware of the entirety of the situation and many claims, remain false or unsupported.
At the moment, as you can imagine, this whole ordeal has taken a toll or 2 on my current state of mind whilst adding to my stress. It's getting late and I'll be needing some rest. But I just like to make it known that in the next few days, we will post up a detailed response, attempting to address most if not all of the concerns and accusations using concrete evidence if possible for those, and rightfully so who doubt our word.
Now what do we hope to get out of this? Redemption??--yeah right......like that's going to happen. Looking at things from a broader perspective our reputation is likely never to be completely restored. But at the very least the truth, or a larger scope of this situation, will be brought to light and open to the discerning eyes of the knife community. Until then--continue as you please.
Respectfully,
The Knives Emporium Team
Is this D-----bag outfit located in El Paso Tx?
It is more than evident at this moment that we are under fire of running a giveaway under false pretenses, most specifically, the Bladeforums exclusive XM-24 giveaway.
Now I'm not here to whine or pout or to try to give excuses. Many accusations have been made, some of them justly so, many, not. If anything we are to blame as the many concerns that were brought up on the forum were NOT promptly addressed and was neglected by us. That said, I'm asking the community to give us a chance--not to "redeem" ourselves as in the minds of many, we're already considered trash, but to explain the entirety of this giveaway situation. As I feel, though you may not agree, that one should always give the benefit of the doubt.
This situation, even a "scandal" as one could put it, grew quickly through the course of a few days and we had not the patience nor the time to address all the different accusations. Regardless, we are not excused nor exempt from neglecting them. Yet as as much fault we may be, the community is NOT aware of the entirety of the situation and many claims, remain false or unsupported.
At the moment, as you can imagine, this whole ordeal has taken a toll or 2 on my current state of mind whilst adding to my stress. It's getting late and I'll be needing some rest. But I just like to make it known that in the next few days, we will post up a detailed response, attempting to address most if not all of the concerns and accusations using concrete evidence if possible for those, and rightfully so who doubt our word.
Now what do we hope to get out of this? Redemption??--yeah right......like that's going to happen. Looking at things from a broader perspective our reputation is likely never to be completely restored. But at the very least the truth, or a larger scope of this situation, will be brought to light and open to the discerning eyes of the knife community. Until then--continue as you please.
Respectfully,
The Knives Emporium Team
Is this D-----bag outfit located in El Paso Tx?