Cancelling membership with Knives Emporium

22wrf said:
I happen to know the owner of KE personally, and I know him as an honorable man.
I also know that on internet sites such as this one opinions can snowball out of proportion, thereby breeding more opinions that snowball out of proportion, and on and on into the night!

1. If anyone had bothered to check with all of the previous winners of the knife giveaway, you would find that none of them were affiliated with the company.
2. A mistake was made in this last instance because the company was not careful enough to make sure that no employee or family member of an employee could register to win the prize for the latest drawing. A MISTAKE. A mistake that I am positive will never happen again.
3. The way KE has been treated on this forum since this incident took place has been, to say the least, embarrasing. I certainly hope that none of you would ever make an honest mistake, get charged for it, and then convicted without being able to lay out the true facts to the factfinder.
4. As for stealing software, many people do not know that the founder of KE is a brilliant computer person who developed this very same software for large companies years and years ago. Moreover, forum software is now an off the shelf item, and anyone can purchase this type of software and start a forum if they so desire.
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I have no interest in whether you are BFFs with the owner of the store in question. What I do know is that something awfully shady happened and some very strange circumstances took place that led to the banning. If you disagree then you must not be thinking clearly. I will address your points in the same format.

1- Previous giveaways are water under the bridge. People were concerned with this particular one. One winner chimed in and he claimed not to be affiliated. I guess the prize for the latest giveaway was what must have garnered so much attention. It's irrelevant crying over spilled milk though, isn't it?

2- Calling that a mistake is an understatement. According to Bladeforums, duplicate accounts are not allowed, period. It is a bannable offense and the mods exercised that right. The mistake cost him a lot of potential business in a markey with a long memory for cheats, scammers, and shady business practices.

3- The way KE has been treated is proportionate to the "mistake". You cannot honestly claim that things are completely blown out of proportion, can you? come on. People do not like to get dicked around, and when they do they have every reason to respond. The results of the WHo-IS search yielded a name for an individual that was caught red handed selling high volume production folders while undercutting legitimate businesses and selling below MAAP policied that ZT has in place for a reason. No one claims to have 125 "spare" ZTs and Sebenzas, we're talking about $50K in merchandise sitting around collecting dust? Puh Leez! A simple IP address search

4- Don't know much about the software stealing in these cases. But there are things called templates that can be purchased, modified to fit the theme and used to any sales outlet online.

22wrf said:
The past 4 posts prove my first point. 3 people who do not know all of the facts have decided to continue to sling mud.

1. How many times I post here has nothing to do with whether I know the owner of BE
2. His name isn't George. Do you use your name? Doesn't look like it to me unless mothers are now naming their babies
Shooter01 and Cicatriz.
3. Although I have not asked him, I am sure that he would conduct another raffle or drawing here without hesitation but he cannot do so because people like the last 3 posters and many more have made such a big deal out of this so as to have him removed from the site. Certainly the owners of the site are entitled to do what they want, but I think in this instance they were persuaded more by mob sentiment than they were by fact. The fact remains that a MISTAKE was made by failing to do enough due diligence to make sure that nobody affiliated with the company could win a prize. That is it folks. If you have never made a mistake in your life, please tell me about it.
4. Why am I sure that this was a mistake. Well, for one I was told so. But independently of that, I know this man to be a very intelligent individual. He would not risk any of his businesses for such a cheap item as one knife. The goodwill he has lost because of this mistake is worth thousands of times more than the stupid knife he gave away, and he isn't stupid enough to try and get away with something like this. Again, it was a mistake, and nothing more.
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1- You seem to be lobbying pretty hard for this guy, yet there is still the matter of a duplicate IP adresses, the domain registration issue, and the multiple accounts.

2- A lot of people use their real names online. I think we kow that George isn't the real name of the person at the heart of this, it's Roland.

3- Why would a person say that they have a giveaway exclusively for Bladeforums members, yet the Facebook page indicates no such thing? There was no indication of the stipulation that entrants must be Bladeforums members on Facebook. The FB page indicated it was open to anyone, provided you "like" the page. Again, another rule violation here.

4- I cannot claim to believe everything I'm told, because I don't. I think the majority of people here feel the same way. I do know that greed played a huge part in this. Why would such a saavy software developed and entrepreneur buy a webbsite/domain, operate it for months and months, and NOT change the ownership and registration of the domain? That makes no sense to me at all. Why in the hell would a person place their livlihood in the hands of a stranger? It's like buying a car from someone and leaving the title in their name, or buying a house and leaving the deed in the sellers name.
 
22wrf said:
I happen to know the owner of KE personally, and I know him as an honorable man.

4. As for stealing software, many people do not know that the founder of KE is a brilliant computer person who developed this very same software for large companies years and years ago. Moreover, forum software is now an off the shelf item, and anyone can purchase this type of software and start a forum if they so desire.
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Funny how no one here mentioned this, but you brought it to light.....
Your friend is a real honorable man. Sued by Microsoft for copyright infringement:

http://www.legalmetric.com/cases/copyright/txwd/txwd_302cv00004.html
 
Cicatriz said:
Has anybody investigated the relationships shown here?--
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Texas/El-Paso/roland-g-roesbeke/34892484.aspx
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It would appear that "George" and Roland are one and the same: https://pipl.com/directory/name/Roesbeke/Roland/

The only name I have come across from your link Cicatriz is Bertina Delgado. Both TaxNetUSA and El Paso Central Appraisal District list her as the registered owner of 5829 Diamond Point, El Paso, Tx.
http://www.taxnetusa.com/texas/elpaso/detail.php?i_themeFile=prelim_theme.php&theKey=13424

El Paso CAD requires a manual search of address to be entered: http://www.epcad.org/clientdb/?cid=1
Deed was transferred from Roland to Bertina.
 
Just visited KE's website.
All the knives i looked at were "sold", so he made a lot of money out of his raffles.
 
so now comes a guy, and it's trying to do this.
He knows that many people don't read the entire thread. So he plants an alternate reality, were george/roland is the victim, and blade forum the victimizers.

What george/roland did: he held a four months giveaway about an expensive knife, asking for people to register in his website to be elegible. Whe the knife was awarded, the winner was george/roland.
AND HE WAS TRYING TO GET AWAY WITH IT.
HE WAS BUSTED BY A USER FROM BLADEFORUMS, who did detective work and linked the data of the owner of knife emporium site to the winner of the contest, AND several duplicate accounts here.

So no mistake blown out of proportions.
No witch hunt. George/roland lied, cheated, scammed, and got busted.

george/roland didnt say nothing for several days, and later he sent a mail saying nothing, quoted above in this thread, and now a "friend" of him says bs and lies.
I don't know about other users, but I have a normal IQ and memory. WHAT YOU ARE DOING PROVES TO ME THAT GEORGE/ROLAND IS A PROFESSIONAL SCAMMER, nothing else.

Shame on you for helping him.
 
If someone has all the evidence compiled, please email or PM me. Otherwise I will do what I can.

I will have a acquaintance in the Texas legal system hand the letter personally to the Attorney General. I will ask her to take a look, and see if she thinks it will go anywhere before she hands it to the Attorney General.

edit: Nvm the link. Looking for the correct one.
 
I was just searching some of the names used and found that link.

Roland G. Roesbeke is the sunbelt email name used on BF, who has business links with the owner of KE- Johnnie Hudman.
They are tied into many different business dealings with what appears to be a lot of people on the software side.

Those two are the ones I was focusing on... They seem to be the ones involved here on BF.
 
Unless he operates under the shade of a yucca in the middle of a parking lot, according to google this is his location.
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The pointer showed the location under a yucca!
 
Unless I'm missing something Roland Roesbeke(El Paso) is an employee/business partner of Johnnie Hubman(Albany).

Roland was the person ascribed to handle BladeForums. He set up multiple shill accounts.... etc.

I think we would all like to hear from Johnnie Hubman himself. Not a lackey or yes man.
I want to know who the scape goat is and who the actual perpetrator is.

I want to know what the real owner of Knives Emporium is going to do to rectify himself to the whole knife community.

If he is a legitimate, honest business owner he will man up and take responsibility whether he himself is at fault or one of his employees/partners is.
If not then he will continue to hide behind tangent tactics like this last one we have seen.


Am I screwy in my thought lineage?
 
I called the number on the website months ago while leaving Midland, to another job. I was going to see if I could stop by the shop the number put me in touch with a lady that said she has nothing to do with K.E. and gave me a number to a guy named Johnny seemed like a nice guy talked to him for about an hour wasn't able to go buy and look at the knifes which kind of sucked but no mention of any one named Roland\George. I was under the impression Johnny was the owner. Well thank goodness for a forum of passionate knife enthusiast other wise i could have waisted my money on the wrong person. So sad really he had bm710 for such a good price :( Well 710 in m4 steel here I come!!!
 
If Roland is based out of Elpaso (which ironiclly I will be there Monday) wonder if he has anything to do with the knife store ran out of the truck stop (the only knife store in Elpaso)...That was a different experience.
 
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Wow! With a move like that it just glares ---GUILTY---
The name was up an hour ago. He must be watching this thread like a hawk trying to cover his butt.
 
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