"Carl's Lounge" (Off-Topic Discussion, Traditional Knife "Tales & Vignettes")

Well spoken Will Power Will Power Will.
My thoughts exactly....but Im much more worried about this new virus...apppaaarently the early symptoms include composing overly lengthy rants on internet knife forrums ... further complickations ar known 2 b debilitaiting lac uv grammer and inibililyty 2 spel.....aaaaaarrrgghhh.
 
Will Power said:
Only time will tell, but 'experts' ( usually those who invade the media for conceit and money) are often wrong.
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Often wrong and as often right since they don't care to contradict themselves the next day with the same conviction; they don't hesitate to say: "I said it before". I've heard a prominent doctor saying: "We don't care about numbers!". I was certainly wrong to believe, stupid i'm, that epidemic was characterized by the number of sick people contaminated in such a short time measured in number of days. I wouldn't be surprised to remain in good health, if i have been infected, experts have made my blood boiling so much that it has killed the virus.

r8shell said:
As it has been explained to me, the goal is to "flatten the curve." That is: Lots of people are expected to contract Covid-19, but even if the total number of infected people stays the same, slowing the rate of transmission to draw it out over a longer period of time will save lives because the health care system will not be overloaded. Not only people with the virus will be at risk, but everyone else who may need medical care (especially ventilators) for other illnesses and conditions.

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It's great to see that some people, like you r8shell, get the right informations and some common sense.

Dan.
 
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redsparrow said:
LOL! :confused:
To answer your question; Yes, if the blood alcohol content could reach 40-60 percent it would begin to kill some germs. Unfortunately a 0.3-0.4 percent blood alcohol content is life threatening to the human body.
Too permanent of a solution to a temporary problem, IMO.
So much for the jackknife theory of survival. Sorry!:(
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The quinine in the gin and tonics might help though ;) :D
 
redsparrow said:
LOL! :confused:
To answer your question; Yes, if the blood alcohol content could reach 40-60 percent it would begin to kill some germs. Unfortunately a 0.3-0.4 percent blood alcohol content is life threatening to the human body.
Too permanent of a solution to a temporary problem, IMO.
So much for the jackknife theory of survival. Sorry!:(
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Yeah, but supposing you SNORTED that G&T that ought to keep the mouth&mucous membranes disinfected?:D You might drown though...:eek::eek:;)
 
5K Qs said:
You guys are braver than I am!!
Does anyone have any idea what infection rate "experts" expect Covid-19 to have?
I read a CDC report that claimed that seasonal influenza infects about 8% of the population on average, but there are vaccines for it. I'm guessing the infection rate for coronavirus is higher, since there's no vaccine.
Let's say the U.S. population is 330 million, and the mortality rate for the virus is the 1% Carl mentioned.
If it infects 1 of 10 people (10% infection rate), that's 33 million cases, and 330000 deaths; only about 80% of the US deaths in WW2, but close to 3 times the number of US fatalities in WW1.
Scary to me; CDC estimates average deaths from influenza over past 9 years at about 37000 per year.

- GT
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As I understand it - that is - what I have heard from a number of (non-medical government type) sources - is that the infection rates is estimated to be 20% to 30% worse than any influenza we have yet to experience and that 19% of infected will require hospitalization.

The 10% spread of the range of projected infection is based on that COVID-19 is NOVEL , i.e., so far, unknown to humanity and so we are still establishing data based on what we know since its manifestation in China. Ask again next year. :(

Stay well everyone. Wash your face and don't touch your hands. :thumbsup:
 
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Here is the current thinking from Francis Collins - the Director of the National Institutes of Health, as quoted in a March 17 article from THE ATLANTIC.

Starts with " There are estimates that if nothing goes right and if we fail to flatten the curve and if health systems are overwhelmed, we might see the deaths of as many as a million and a half people in the United States.”
 
Its exactly those type of statements by that type of person.."director" of " national institutes of health" sounds like a pen pushing bean counter to me..that are causing the widespread panic buying. Key word "might"...sooo what hes saying in essence is there is a cheap way and an expensive way to lose a million people...
 
RayseM said:
Here is the current thinking from Francis Collins - the Director of the National Institutes of Health, as quoted in a March 17 article from THE ATLANTIC.

Starts with " There are estimates that if nothing goes right and if we fail to flatten the curve and if health systems are overwhelmed, we might see the deaths of as many as a million and a half people in the United States.”
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If we miss that meteor that is rapidly sneaking up on us, we MIGHT lose all the people on earth!!:eek::rolleyes:
 
Beer Street by Hogarth is cheery not fiendish. The text underneath might be deciphered? It start's "Beer happy produce of our Isle, can sinewy Strength impart, and wearied with Fatigue & toil can cheer each Manly heart.Labour & Art upheld by Thee successfully advance.We quaff The balmy juice with Glee and Water leave to France! Genius of Health, thy grateful taste rivals the Cup of Jove. And Warms each Generous English Breast with Liberty & Love"

Not a bad advert at all:cool: I'll drink to that, if pubs ever open again, they won't be serving Corona Beer I'm certain....;)

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meako said:
Its exactly those type of statements by that type of person.."director" of " national institutes of health" sounds like a pen pushing bean counter to me..that are causing the widespread panic buying. Key word "might"...sooo what hes saying in essence is there is a cheap way and an expensive way to lose a million people...
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In light of the reality that the only thing we can truly know about COVID-19 is that it is utterly new and the full range of its effect yet to be determined. The current data is being extrapolated from the effects seen so far. All we can ask from the professional medical community is to give us the best and worst case scenarios. Our option is to accept useless absolutes based on no real data (if you don't value the word "might") or to accept the gloss overs/trivializing that we have been getting from too many politicians and so called news casters.

Yup - could be real bad or not so bad or worse than we can imagine or that current data "might" suggest. Take care or not, be prepared or not - what will happen will happen and as I wrote earlier - next year we will know more. :( Meanwhile - I believe that the link I provide above has some useful info from someone who is not (by reputation and credentials) a pencil pusher. I share but admit that I don't know more than the next guy. Be well :thumbsup:
 
meako said:
Its exactly those type of statements by that type of person.."director" of " national institutes of health" sounds like a pen pushing bean counter to me..that are causing the widespread panic buying. Key word "might"...sooo what hes saying in essence is there is a cheap way and an expensive way to lose a million people...
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Sorry, I love you buddy, but I can’t let that go unanswered.
The NIH is one of the worlds foremost health research organizations. A lot of hard science comes out of there and governments from around the world send scientists to work and study there. They are at the forefront of developing breakthrough treatments for all kinds of diseases. Trust me, if you get some bizarre unknown illness, that is the place you want to be treated. I’m not just saying this because I live near their main campus - do a little research and I think you will see what I mean. Healthy skepticism is always warranted, but these guys really are the experts.
 
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Yes I was a bit harsh..my apolgies to to NIH....they are burdened by having to navigate the beaurocracy. There are also other experts promoting the let it ride theory....either way I dont like the statisics nor the predictions.
The infection rate here has doubled in the last couple of days...and we are heading into winter/flu season...people are freaking out because they are scared and uniformed...the kind of indecisive obfuscating waffle coming from our gov representatives isnt helping ...it seems no matter how direct the question they rattle out the same guff three times and thats all we have time for thank you minister.
Personally if something is coming to kill me I'd rather not see it or hear about how we simply dont have enough resources, respirators,hospital beds, staff or doctors to cope...
We live on the tip of the iceberg...and when it topples people are going to fall off.
Has anyone approached the Chinese and asked them to stop their filthy animal market slaughtering methods...or is that too non pc? Does anyone know where this virus actually came about from?
 
Origins of a virus may be very difficult to unravel, the appearance of it en masse may not be the same. This type of Corona virus appeared to have emerged in Wuhan but it may not be its origin. Corona virus mutate and appear each year, this one caused extreme panic in China-for some reason. The virus and the panic spread elsewhere.
 
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