"Carl's Lounge" (Off-Topic Discussion, Traditional Knife "Tales & Vignettes")

Hi Paul

I have been away on the Isle of Barra working at a music festival again this weekend

Hope it wasn't this one! :eek:

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And that you had a good time :)

This seems an appropriate time to mention that I am a Police Constable.

I certainly wouldn't hold that against you my friend! :D

I can't speak for my Northern Irish, Welsh or English colleagues, Scottish law is very different to the rest of the UK, but there are many things that we share. The knife legislation as afore mentioned is one of them; a folding blade of no more than three inches in length and does not lock open. Should you have just reason for having something bigger about your person, then that's fine too. This legislation has made a huge difference in the prevention of violent crime in Scotland, and the conviction rates have shown proof in the pudding.
As far as the other incidents that have been discussed here, I would be interested to read the entries that the reporting officers put on their own incident recording systems. I expect that those entries paint a slightly different picture to the ones which were portrayed by the media, often it all comes down to the way it's told. For instance, from my own beat;
Fact: 66 year old man is arrested outside his own house for being in possession of a knife with a two and a half inch blade.
This sentence is short and entirely true. However, how it is embroidered and understood is entirely in the hands of the publisher and most importantly the reader. Obviously there is more to the statement which isn't being revealed.
I expect that the majority of us here are mature enough to realise the UK Police forces are often caught between a rock and a hard place and suffer a level of scrutiny which is almost unique in its intensity. That said, inevitably, mistakes will be made and apologies must be offered where required.
I hope that my friends here can appreciate that on the whole, discretion is exercised where it can be. I have no desire to make criminals out of people, and I expect my colleagues feel the same. Unfortunately, it is easier to stab someone with a knife than without one.

If you are in disagreement with me then that's fine, different opinions are where democracy thrives, but I won't reply to Police bashing. I am proud to serve, I work hard and I treat people fairly and with dignity. I like traditional pocket knives, but I always use them within the confines of the law that society has written. I must respect the decisions of the majority no matter my own idiosyncrasies.

Paul

All valid points Paul, though I'm sure things are very different in your part of the world than in the big cities of England or Scotland, you're under less pressure from above, have no need of a 'siege' mentality, and are able to exercise personal discretion more. I'm sure you do a fine job within the community you serve Paul :)

Jack
 
Jack, I know it is a viewpoint that has made Americans seem asinine, but I am staying here. There is so much of these United States that I haven't seen it boggles my mind and makes me curse my laziness. I am truly sorry to see this happen over there, and hope that it doesn't get much worse over there.

I'm guessing the hooligans aren't stopped that much ;) .
 
If anyone is on Facebook, check out my group Slipjoint Addict. All pics of old knives, guns and cars are welcome. I'm trying to keep the old timey attitude going on there. Several members are members there, as well as several makers. We try to keep it clean, a couple guffaws are fine though. C'mon over, pull up a chair, BYOB ;)...
 
Dan, that´s interessting. I always tried not to be a member on facebook or any other of these SocialNetworkSites. And I won´t change my mind. But perhaps I´ll take a visit under my wife´s account ;)

Interessting offer, indeed.
 
Well, Facebook contstantly sends updates of people you might know. I friended a couple people that were suggested to me, then received an edit message from Facebook stating that I could not friend people I did not know. It's getting a little ridiculous.
 
All prices quoted are exclusive of VAT ;)

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Jack, I know it is a viewpoint that has made Americans seem asinine, but I am staying here. There is so much of these United States that I haven't seen it boggles my mind and makes me curse my laziness. I am truly sorry to see this happen over there, and hope that it doesn't get much worse over there.

I'm guessing the hooligans aren't stopped that much ;) .

Thanks Dan. I think you could spend a lifetime travelling and not see every corner of that big, beautiful country of yours :)
 
Silenthunterstudios, I joined your group today, as much as I dislike FB, I keep looking at it do to stuff like this. Very interesting. Nice to see likeminded individuals obsessing over the same sorta stuff.
 
Jack, how do the police get away with arresting someone for something that is not against the law, as in the case of the elderly doctor? Don't the police or courts have punitive actions against over zealous police officers? As I understand UK law, anything under 3 inches and with no lock on the blade is okay. So when a over zelious cop pulls in a person with a legal knife, doesn't his superiors chew him a new butt, or the judge toss the case out of court with a stern warning to the cop? And what venue do the people have to file a complaint against the police?

It sounds like there's two sets of laws over there, the one on the books, and the one that the police are making up as they go along. Wow.

Carl.
Carl, I hate to seem a downer, but the police get away with such things routinely here in the States as well. I have first-hand experience in that regard, unfortunately. It's so expensive to engage in a legal battle, even when one is technically NOT in the wrong, that it's often prohibitive, leading would-be innocent defendants to accept "lenient sentences" for something that's not a crime, instead of fighting for an acquittal.
 
I'll check it, I've had a few new people request to join. Thanks, Todd Davison, Gene Wiseman and Enrique Pena are members and have posted some really nice knives. Several members here have posted their collections too.

You accepted. Contrary to popular belief, my real name isn't Woodrow F. Call. ;)
 
;)He's not Woodrow F Call, he's really Tommy Lee Jones.

No more Men in Black III's, okay, Tommy :grumpy::mad::(:foot::).;):D

Seriously :barf:.
 
Back to work, but never away from knives... :p
This weekend, if everything goes right, I will drive about 200 km south of home and reach the small town of Guspini (once a minerary town, and also with quite a tradition in knifemaking) to attend a cutlery exhibition named Arresojas (another name for resolzas). It's probably the biggest knife show on the island, it's held every other year, and usually hosts quite a number of makers. The show is "divided" between the town and the mine areas, and this year it seems there will be a show/demonstration of Damascus forging, which could be intresting to watch. Hopefully I will be there, take some pictures, talk to some maker, and post something about it if you're interested :)

Fausto
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