"Carl's Lounge" (Off-Topic Discussion, Traditional Knife "Tales & Vignettes")

[Robert.B]

You wouldnt want the sheath to fail and hit the nether regions on the way down!!!

 

[dalee100]

LOL- I had to read this twice for it to sink in what you meant. You have a knife clipped to your pants pocket so it won't slip through the hole in your pocket.

At first, I thought you meant that you had a knife clipped to the waistband of your boxer shorts while you were waiting for your pants to dry! In my defense, I worked night shift last night and just woke up, so my reading comprehension maybe isn't up to speed yet.

On the other hand, I was thinking the other day about when or why a neck knife would be a good idea. It just dawned on me- a neck knife set-up is perfect for nudists!

Hi,

Clipped to my underwear? I'm going to have to remember that for next time. Maybe get my Wife to sew a pocket big enough for a Peanut.

And I ain't going to do no nudist thing. It's 9F and headed to 1F. So I don't need a neck knife.

Dale

 

[Amos Iron Wolf]

Oh yeah. Add Appaloosa to the list of pretty good Westerns. What being pards is about.

 

[Ice Tigre]

I dunno... I still get to the end of Appaloosa and go "WHAT?? just happened?" That movie is odd. Good.... but Odd.

 

[Robert.B]

I just like seeing that 8 gauge being shot!

 

[Amos Iron Wolf]

I dunno... I still get to the end of Appaloosa and go "WHAT?? just happened?" That movie is odd. Good.... but Odd.

Yep. It's action, but there is the whole pard relationship thing going on. Can make it a bit odd along the way.

I do like the full trust. When Vigo's character tells Harris' that his woman came on to him it was "thanks for telling me. Let's not discuss it any further." And it was just fine.

Up Fairbanks way I see. Miss that place, though they tell me it's grown a lot since the early 90s. Two River's Lodge out Chena Hot Springs road still there? First wife had me driving through a heavy snowstorm one night just so we could go there for the all you can eat snow crab night.

I still regret letting one of the regulars of the Bullshooters Bench at the now defunct Down Under Guns talk me into selling him my Cold Steel, Carbon V, made in USA, original Trailmaster. I cut a few two to three inch thick saplings along the way with that thing for camp purposes and it still went through 550 cord like it was air.

I think I need to rent that movie again, coming full circle, and find me a DVD copy of The Mountain Men with Charlton Heston and Brian Keith. Love that one. Had it on VHS, but we're all DVD now. Did score Jerimiah Johnson of DVD from the wife for an anniversary present.

I just like seeing that 8 gauge being shot!

Ya just don't have to talk much when your holding something like that in your hands. It kinda speaks for ya.

 

[black mamba]

Back in the '80s I worked at a high dollar gun store. One of our regular customers was a large bore "nut" who purchased a Rodda 4-bore double hammer rifle built in the 1890s, weighing 24 pounds. I was fortunate enough to handle the rifle, though never got to fire it. As I remember, it fired a .95 caliber bullet at around 1400 fps.

He took it to Africa and killed elephant and buffalo with it. The PH was TOTALLY impressed with the power of the weapon, as it literally blew buffalo off their feet at 100 yards! The intrepid hunter fired the rifle from a sitting position, with his forearms resting against his knees, and the recoil rolled him onto his back. I received this info in first-hand accounts from both the hunter and the PH, who visited St. Louis the year following this safari.

I sure would have loved to see that gun go off!

 

[Robert.B]

Back in the '80s I worked at a high dollar gun store. One of our regular customers was a large bore "nut" who purchased a Rodda 4-bore double hammer rifle built in the 1890s, weighing 24 pounds. I was fortunate enough to handle the rifle, though never got to fire it. As I remember, it fired a .95 caliber bullet at around 1400 fps.

He took it to Africa and killed elephant and buffalo with it. The PH was TOTALLY impressed with the power of the weapon, as it literally blew buffalo off their feet at 100 yards! The intrepid hunter fired the rifle from a sitting position, with his forearms resting against his knees, and the recoil rolled him onto his back. I received this info in first-hand accounts from both the hunter and the PH, who visited St. Louis the year following this safari.

I sure would have loved to see that gun go off!

I'm a big bore fan too, I would love to get a tapered brass 8 gauge slug African large game rifle...I've fired one when I was 15 and felt certain I broke my shoulder, went purple and I was used to firing 12 gauge.

I was recently at a gun show and they had one made by a Sheffield gun smith, in its custom made case with papers of sale (also had custom tools that match the rifle for molding your own slugs and disassembly tools)...it sold 5 minutes after the door opened and it was NOT cheap

 

[tongueriver]

In the 1960's there was an article in the NRA's American Rifleman Magazine about the big bore African guns before they went to cordite. The pictures were awesome of a 2 bore (2 balls to the pound), 4 bore, and an 8 bore, as I recall. The 2 bore had come from a fellow who had his "man" carry it for him, only to have been actually shot by him a couple times in his life. And only to save his life, for each time it crushed his shoulder and collarbone. Back in the day, blackpowder hurt worse, as it is an explosive, not a propellant, and expends its energy in the bore more quickly and sharply. In my own experience, big bores are way more fun to fool around with and look at than to actually shoot. There is a resurgence in black powder cartridge guns in heavy calibers, if you actually want one. And there are modern big bores too. I personally favor shooting the pipsqueaks. . Lone Star with their rolling blocks and Shiloh with their '74 Sharps models are very high quality, and you don't HAVE to order one with a half inch hole in it!

 

[Amos Iron Wolf]

Of course you could do what they did for the movie. Oversleeve a 12 gauge to make it look like a beast.

from http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Appaloosa

Steve Karnes 1878 Shotgun

Everett Hitch (Viggo Mortensen) carries an 8 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun in the film, refered to only as "The 8 Gauge" in the dialogue. To handle the vicious recoil of the massive weapon, Everett has a leather pad build into the shoulder of his coat to help absorb it. Since the only existing 8 Gauges today are antiques and are unsafe or too expensive to fire, a genius alternative was made. Armorer and gunsmith Steve Karnes built three "8 Gauges" for Gibbons Ltd. out of reproduction Colt 1878 shotguns, two of which fired 12 Gauge blanks with 8 Gauge sleeves over the barrels to increase the bore diameter and hide its real caliber, while one was built to chamber 8 Gauge inert rounds for scenes in which the gun was loaded, as the size between 8 and 12 Gauge is far too different for no one to notice. To see more on the production of the shotguns, visit the SK 1878 shotgun page, with actual information and images by Steve Karnes.

Hey, if Steve McQueen can carry that 92 Winchester Mare's Leg in .44-40 but walk around with .45-70 ammo in his belt loops, you can use the same magic for an "8 Guage."

Me, I've long had a hankerin' for a non-eared 12 gauge coach gun with choke tubes, sling swivels, a good recoil pad and express sights. Make sure it's well regulated enough to put your slugs or buckshot to the same place (relatively speaking) out of both barrels at say 30-50 yards. Then you would have a tight, handy package that could throw everything from IC choked birdshot in cover, to pheasant loads with mod or even full chokes, and buckshot and slugs for larger stuff. All in a package you could sling on a pack frame or move through heavy cover with. Oh yeah, and with good ejectors and smoothed up for quick opening and reloads.

 

[black mamba]

I had a Browning BSS 20 ga. side by side for a while that I killed a pile of quail with, and would also throw a quick right and left with 3" Winchester slugs into about 3" at 60 yds., and that without sights, just the original rib and bead front. All you need is a consistent shoulder "weld" and they can be pretty accurate at short range.

 

[dalee100]

Of course you could do what they did for the movie. Oversleeve a 12 gauge to make it look like a beast.

from http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Appaloosa



Hey, if Steve McQueen can carry that 92 Winchester Mare's Leg in .44-40 but walk around with .45-70 ammo in his belt loops, you can use the same magic for an "8 Guage."

Me, I've long had a hankerin' for a non-eared 12 gauge coach gun with choke tubes, sling swivels, a good recoil pad and express sights. Make sure it's well regulated enough to put your slugs or buckshot to the same place (relatively speaking) out of both barrels at say 30-50 yards. Then you would have a tight, handy package that could throw everything from IC choked birdshot in cover, to pheasant loads with mod or even full chokes, and buckshot and slugs for larger stuff. All in a package you could sling on a pack frame or move through heavy cover with. Oh yeah, and with good ejectors and smoothed up for quick opening and reloads.

Hi,

Back in the old days when double rifles were more common amongst the Gentleman hunters, the way they would regulate them after soldering the barrels together was to test fire a few shots at the chosen range and then un-solder and shim to correct as needed.There are a few 'Smiths that might undertake such a job even today.

And oddly enough ejectors are not recommended for SxS's. Nobody, not even London's Best has made reliable ejectors for their SxS's. Besides, double triggers and extractors are the proper configuration. And with a matched pair for your bearer/reloader to tote as you stroll the bush you don't need to concern yourself with such mundane efforts.

Or have you considered a Drilling? There are some beauties floating around. An excellent match to a nice Ruple or Erickson. I really think Thomason should get one to match that awesome Ruple Stockman he posted.

Dale

 

[Amos Iron Wolf]

Dale,

When I worked part time at a gun shop in Fairbanks back early 90s, there was a Sauer Drilling there. 12x12x.30-06. I did drool a little on it, but the boss didn't see me and I wiped it off quick. $2500 as I recall. I would have just traded it back on something else though.

Yeah, I went a little non-traditional in my daydream, lone wanderer twin barrel. I forgot the mechanical single trigger, though I might opt for double trigger anyway to allow instant barrel selection, but I want the trigger positions reversed since I shoot long guns southpaw. Front trigger to the left. Or I could just do like some old boys and use two fingers and practice to make sure I don't twitch and hit both at the same time.

I still like the idea of a double that throws hulls and live rounds with the zest of an H&R (new or old) or NEF Pardner single shot. Those things fling a live round out so hard you could knock somebody out right behind you. Or you if you open it right in front of you. That way I could get some dummy rounds and practice loading with a couple of rounds held between my fingers. Bloody uncivilized not having a gun bearer, good or otherwise.

I'm supposed to be making a three way trade tomorrow. My Mav 88 HD gun and a set of grips to my pard for a clean Savage 340 in .30-30 (wish it was .22 Hornet) and that I will trade to another friend for his like new (fired only a few rounds) Stoeger Coach Gun. Might see about getting me some of the Centurian mini-shells just for fun, and ease of shoulder. Wish I had the TTN 1878 Colt repro I had, ears and all. Choke tubes would have made it even better. I don't automatically assume cylinder or IC is perfect for buckshot or slugs. Seen some modified tubes throw some tight patterns at distance and put slugs into some decent groups at 50 or so yards.

Of course there is the Kodiak in .45-70 for those who want a nice mid-bore double. For those times the big bore is a little much.

Stop this guys. Next thing you know I'll be wanting a set of Rigby's in .416 Rigby, .375 H&H and .275 Rigby. Since I'm dreaming could we make them left hand actions? I really need to retire the Nitro doubles you know.

Darn, had to get my Okapi out and set it on the desk in front of the monitor. Next thing you know I'll be having to go online and see if I can find some Peter Hathaway Capstick (my wife used to love to read those) or see if The Ghost and the Darkness if on Netflix instant play.

Later lads. Off to plan the next great adventure.
Amos

 

[Core Knife Co.]

I was making a pot of my venison chili this morning and thought it might be an interesting thread to show our traditionals at work doing food prep. This is a recipe that I have followed for a few years. You can ramp it up if you're looking for something hotter or easily tone it down if you don't like the heat. This is the recipe I entered in sunnyd's contest.

(2) pounds coarsely ground venison
(20) slices of chopped bacon
(2) large onions
(2) large red bell peppers
(3) cloves garlic
(4) jalapenos
(1) serrano pepper
(2) dried chile peppers
1 1/2 tablespoons chili powder
1 teaspoon ground cumin
1 teaspoon oregano
1/2 teaspoon salt
(1) can of beer (dark)
(1) 12 ounce can tomato paste
(1) 14.5 ounce can peeled tomatoes
(2) 16 ounce can pinto beans

Toppings: Sour cream, sliced green onions, shredded monterey jack, sliced ripe olives.

Cook the bacon and reserve the drippings for the venison. Cook the venison with the onion, bell pepper, and garlic in the bacon drippings. Once meat is browned stir in the bacon, and peppers.

Getting ready to chop the peppers.

Onto the bacon

Everything assembled

The venison being mixed with the other ingredients.

I'll edit in the finished product later this evening.

Let's see some of your additions.

 

[Morrow]

Looking good....but you had me at bacon.

 

[TLARbb]

That venison chili is mighty tempting looking.

I've not wandered through here lately, but saw the old western movies and I enjoy almost all of them. I didn't see Butch and Sundance in the mix although I may not have read all of the posts

I'm a fan of Mr. Eastwood and "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly" is one of my very favorite movies and I like most of the others he has done. I did really like "Gran Turino" myself even though it was a bit different.

One western I liked is "My Name is Nobody" with Henry Fonda. Have you guys seen that one? It's not as hard on your thinker as some of the others; just entertainment.

Tombstone is probably my #2 favorite western; I liked it better than Wyatt Erp.

Ed

 

[Robert.B]

In the 1960's there was an article in the NRA's American Rifleman Magazine about the big bore African guns before they went to cordite. The pictures were awesome of a 2 bore (2 balls to the pound), 4 bore, and an 8 bore, as I recall. The 2 bore had come from a fellow who had his "man" carry it for him, only to have been actually shot by him a couple times in his life. And only to save his life, for each time it crushed his shoulder and collarbone. Back in the day, blackpowder hurt worse, as it is an explosive, not a propellant, and expends its energy in the bore more quickly and sharply. In my own experience, big bores are way more fun to fool around with and look at than to actually shoot. There is a resurgence in black powder cartridge guns in heavy calibers, if you actually want one. And there are modern big bores too. I personally favor shooting the pipsqueaks. . Lone Star with their rolling blocks and Shiloh with their '74 Sharps models are very high quality, and you don't HAVE to order one with a half inch hole in it!

If I ever get lucky enough to score a London made African game hunting rifle chances are i'll never fire it...I want one just for the history, those gun makers in London are producing amazing arms but you pay a premium for the companies heritage. I probably want an old Evans:

Made by William Evans in .500 Nitro Express, made in 1919...now that is art!!!

 

[Amos Iron Wolf]

That venison chili is mighty tempting looking.

I've not wandered through here lately, but saw the old western movies and I enjoy almost all of them. I didn't see Butch and Sundance in the mix although I may not have read all of the posts

I'm a fan of Mr. Eastwood and "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly" is one of my very favorite movies and I like most of the others he has done. I did really like "Gran Turino" myself even though it was a bit different.

One western I liked is "My Name is Nobody" with Henry Fonda. Have you guys seen that one? It's not as hard on your thinker as some of the others; just entertainment.

Tombstone is probably my #2 favorite western; I liked it better than Wyatt Erp.

Ed

I was trying to watch "Nobody" on Netflix last night and it started hanging up so I never got very far into it. Liked what I saw though.

I have to agree that Tombstone is much better than Wyatt Erp. Erp was just too tedious and Kevin Costner, well, he ain't Kurt Russell.

Robert, that is a beauty. I've always loved the elegance and beauty of those old English doubles, rifle or shotgun.

Btw guys, I did the trade on the Stoeger Coach Gun as was surprised to find out it actually is choked IC & Mod. I like that. Overall it was nicer than I was expecting. May have to put a set of express sights on it and shoot brass shells in it. Or not. Still trying to match just the right knife up to it. Can't tell if it should be a bowie type for the cowboy CQB aspect or more of a slippie for the working aspect. Guess when I have time I'll just set it out set a bunch of knives around it to see which one it forms a bond with.

 

[TLARbb]

Well, winter finally came to North Louisiana yesterday. Thankfully, it was not nearly as rough as it could have been. We are more likely to have freezing rain than snow and that's basically what we had this time. Luckily where I live it turned into sleet pretty quickly and we were spared the tree breaking ice we sometimes get. A couple pics below (I know this doesn't compare at all to what most of you guys may see); I hope all of the evidence of this is gone by Thursday AM. If the sun comes out tomorrow, it may all melt, but nights are going to be in the teens for the next 3 nights.

Footing was slick and crunchy. It is not often we get "winter" like this so I thought I'd post the pics.

That chili up there is looking better all the time.

Robert, That fine double rifle is definitely a beauty. I hope you are able to obtain one of those one day...

Ed

 

[Robert.B]

Great pics Ed! the second pic kinda reminds me of an English moor with the mist and random tree in the middle of the field! definitely wouldn't think thats Louisiana if you hadn't said it was.

And I'm sure one day I'll find one at the right price for now I want to focus on settling down...been moving about the past 10 years and need to lay an anchor somewhere, pretty expensive at first settling down in a new place.