Cautious to put my slippie to work

bladeboss said:
You're probably right, but I need to get over the "time it takes to pull it out of your pocket and open it with two hands" thing. I understand its only a couple extra seconds, but its burned into my head subliminally.
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Just try this; put all your modern oho knives in a box and put the box down the basement or in storage someplace. Go cold turkey and just carry the slip joint for one month strait. Nothing in your pocket but a slip joint. At the end of the month you'll realize what a over hyped feature the oho is. You won't miss it, but you'll also be used to having multiple blades on hand in one small package giving you versatility that he oho can't begin to match.

Just go for it.
 
Eric J said:
I could not agree more, but I live in Los Angeles. We can't carry guns and yet we are surrounded by parolees and other assorted ne'er do wells. I still have to carry my tactical folder for defense. I use my Case Peanut for actual chores.
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Stop thinking of the knife as a self defense weapon, it's a very poor choice at that. Pulling a knife in a confrontation is about the worse thing you can do, so just use pepper spray and carry the peanut for real world cutting jobs. If you're really concerned about criminals, carry a good blackthorn and knock the crap out of them. Or take some krav maga and learn to make their noses 3 inches wide by using your elbow.
 
I usually carry a modern folder and a traditional slip joint. The SJ sees 90%+ of anything I need a knife for really. I was a little nervous at first about using a sj hard but my first one since a few cheapo hand me downs as a kid, GEC#15 sheepsfoot main, went straight to work on some recycled rubber patio tiles. I had to cut a bunch to size, they are about 3/4" thick with traces of steel still in them. Wasn't easy cutting but the knife handled it without anything more than some dulling of the factory edge and just a hint of damage to the tip, (my fault, hit some rocks) everything sharpened out fine. I thought for sure it would develop some side play but not a hint of it. Ever since, no worries.
 
L.H.S said:
I don't know what your work or daily life is like, and even so I guarantee a knife from GEC, Queen, Case, or even Rough Rider will handle your daily tasks with ease. Just buy a knife you like, use it, and don't look back. That's what I did.
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This.
 
I believe the Russ Lock is ok as it has no studs, discs or opening holes, it open just like a friction folder using the extended tang to open the blade. Old technology really when you think about it.

Not mine by the way...

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Woodrow F Call said:
One of the nice things you will find about using a traditional folder is the thinner blade which slices through stuff much more easily..... it means that the same task doesn't work the blade as hard.
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Amen to that, There comes a point where if the blade has to be so thick as to not break while prying I'm gonna get a pry bar if I can instead of bustin' a knife or quite possibly hurtin' myself. The thinner blade are suited better to slicin' over the 1/8" thick tactical knives out there.
 
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I'm about to do just that. Back to basics with this minimalist carry I just picked up. Cellidor Bantam. I lost my Alox Pioneer this summer and consoled myself with a few Spydercos, but the siren song of the SAK always seems to call out to me. I always have a classic on me as well so I'll see how I do with this swiss army duo.

EDIT: Bantam has been passed on to my son. A used Waiter has taken over my pocket. Only difference is the addition of the corkscrew but I like it considerably more than the Bantam.
image by Six Pound Cat, on FlickrQUOTE="jackknife, post: 17411702, member: 135745"]Just try this; put all your modern oho knives in a box and put the box down the basement or in storage someplace. Go cold turkey and just carry the slip joint for one month strait. Nothing in your pocket but a slip joint. At the end of the month you'll realize what a over hyped feature the oho is. You won't miss it, but you'll also be used to having multiple blades on hand in one small package giving you versatility that he oho can't begin to match.

Just go for it.[/QUOTE]
 
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Jolipapa said:
These knives always made me think to Woody Woodpecker! The green bone looks very nice :thumbsup:
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Thanks! Turns out the jigged bone is much better in practice because of how you have to hold them while opening. It helps to have the texture for gripping the handle. That green one has bitten me before.

Other than the weird look, it turns out to be a rather functional and ergonomic little knife in actual use. Sort of like those knives with the opening holes that we can't mention here - if you focus your attention on the cutting edge and not the opening part, it's a good useful profile for a single-blade knife.
 
This pattern is quite old, we name it Piémontais - Piemontese - the Piémont (#hill's foot) being the country around Torino. I don't know if this where it originates, now the town for cutlery is Maniago, in Venice country.
 
I think, perhaps, Frank was speaking to some of the other patterns I mentioned. Wrongly. I should have sent a pm. :rolleyes: Again, sorry to derail the thread, which should be focused on using traditional knives. Putting away all your moderns is good advice.
Thanks, Neal
 
tomsch said:
My most used knife is an alox Vic Pioneer. I always carry a modern folder (CRK Insingo) but I tend to use the Vic way more. It has the versatility that I just tend to reach for. That may be an option of you are looking for a low cost hard use slip joint.
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This is the way it is for me right now, with the same two knife models. I also carry a Vic Executive. I wear cargo pants, so I have enough pockets to keep it one knife per pocket. I consider the SAKs as traditionals; the Pioneer is an old pattern and speaks for itself, and the Executive is a 'lobster pen' pattern, also old, except for maybe the 'orange peeler' blade.

There are some moderns with edge geometry that can match good traditionals. But there are also many high-end OHO's that my Pioneer can cut circles around, and at maybe one-tenth the cost. This isn't even counting the other, non-knife blade applications that a SAK possesses.

There are those who say that the steel in most traditionals (including SAK steel) is too soft. I'm sure in most cases it's harder than many pocketknife blades from the 19th and early 20th centuries. My late dad used his knives a lot harder than I ever have, and all he had were carbon steel slipjoints (mostly by Camillus) and at some point he had acquired an early Buck 110. They all had lots of wear and tear.

Jim
 
I agree 100%. SAK steel is pretty soft but so easy to touch up that it can even be done on the bottom of a coffee cup. My late dad also used his case slipjoints much harder and he sharpened the hell out of them until they were nothing more than a spike for a blade. At that point he dropped the old one in a box and went to the local gun/fishing store (Raymond's in Placerville, CA) and bought a new one to start the whole process over.
 
If you are intent on using your slipjoints I agree that you should put your modern folders away somewhere where you can't easily get to them. If you can get to them you'll probably use them because they're more convenient and require less maintenance. ;)

If your fathers and grandfathers had easy access to harder modern steels they would have happily tossed those old slipjoints in the trash. My father has gone his whole life without owning a cell phone and he talks on the phone much more than I do. Does that mean that I should limit myself to using a landline? I don't see the sense in that.

I've never owned a slipjoint that sliced as nicely as my Inkosi or PM2. I'd be interested to hear what slipjoints everybody is using that is so superior to anything a modern folder is capable of. I've tried GEC, Queen, Case, Rough Rider, Buck, Victorinox, etc. etc. etc.

Slipjoints are fantastic. They're pretty, they age gracefully, they're a ton of fun to collect, etc. However, if you find yourself reaching for your modern knife over your slipjoints it seems silly to try to force yourself to use and carry a slipjoint. I went through this myself when I first started carrying a modern folder. I'd carry a slipjoint along with it because I had some feeling of betrayal if I didn't. I've gotten over that now, and I usually just have my Inkosi on me. I still fondle and use my slipjoints around the house, and I still really love them. However, now that I'm carrying a modern folder I no longer feel the need to carry multiple knives around with me.
 
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