Chris Reeve cracked my blade. Your opinion please

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I never knew that swapping out lugs for different/double put the blade at risk?

First i'm hearing of this
 
I do have to ask, if you were just planning on selling it, why would you bother having the swedge added? By altering the original design, wouldn't that have lowered the value anyway, even if it was done by Chris Reeve Knives? Kinda' like chopping the top on an old car and then trying to call it "original". Just curious.
 
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I'm note sure because I have never had this happen before. I have no problem with new blade but it would seem fair to get back the cost I put into old blade as well. When I first sent it in I was only going to get it sharpened but then seen this thread
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...Large-BG42-Sebenza-DBL-Silver-Lugs-and-Swedge

This helped me to decide to have swedge. I asked repeatedly to the ladies at Chris Reeve if it would bring down value to add the swedge and the at the time could not say. Now that they have cracked the blade I have been told by them I should not have gotten the swedge if I was worried about value.

I'm not mad but disappointed. They are working with me atleast.

I did not start this thread to down Chris Reeve knives just wanted advice.

Thanks again.
 
While it's crappy this took place, I imagine you're gonna get more than fair market value for a discontinued model with a brand new blade. I'd ask for the old blade and you could then offer it as a bonus whe you sell it.
 
andre1 said:
...I did not start this thread to down Chris Reeve knives just wanted advice.

Thanks again.
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OK... my best advice is to ask them for something special in the blade they're offering. Perhaps a double lug blade in S35VN to replace the BG42 one. They still do regular blade profiles for their annual LE versions, and they may have started to use S35 for those blades. If not, S30V with double lugs is a good option. Lots of folks like DBL LUGS on their Seenzas.

I have read several threads about blades cracking when lugs are removed or replaced. It happens... rarely, but it happens. I continue to have the single lug Sebenzas that I buy or trade for swapped to DBL LUGS because I like it better. I may get bitten sometime and I'll work with CS to get something suitable to replace the cracked blade.

After having a couple of folders in BG42 over the years, including a Sebenza, I've decided that I don't like BG42 as much as other SS. I didn't like it on my Spyderco Military or on the Sebenza, so it isn't just the way CRK did it. IMAO, it's too much hassle to sharpen for too little return over steels like S30V or S35VN (which I do like in my small micarta 21) or CPM-154. Some people really like BG42 and are probably willing to pay slightly more for a BG42 Sebenza... if they happen to see your ad and are ready to buy. But you might get more general interest (and maybe sell it quicker) with a blade in a newer steel like S30V or S35VN.
 
Personally I would prefer to buy s30v over bg42 if I saw one for sale in a forum.
 
It really wouldn't make much of a difference really because the knife is a user, if it was a safe queen then yeah most definitely would make a difference.
 
CR did you a favor. The blade shouldn't have cracked. It could have been a faulty heat treatment. I would take the new blade and run.
 
My question is how it made it into q box and back to you with a cracked blade without someone there knowing. I had an issue with the condition a knife came back in also. Someone there is not doing their job and I think Chris Reeve needs to correct that issue.

Other than that he offered you a fair solution. You should have never used the knife to start with if you were worried about resale value.
 
Well.... Is the crack bad, is the BG42 blade still good and usable? if so and you're getting a free S30v blade, I don't think you're doing all that bad.
 
Everybody makes mistakes, even CRK. To tell you the truth I would be livid if they broke one of my BG42 blades, which I much prefer over s30v. I want my blades razor sharp not holding a semi-dull edge for a long time.

BTW I have seen BG42 CRKs regularly sell for more than the S30V models. I guess if all they're offering is to put a new blade than that's you're only option unless you're a great negotiator.
 
Well, if you're going to sell it, it'll be worth much less with a cracked blade so I'd take the S30V and go. It'll go for less than it would have, but unless I'm wildly out of the loop, I don't think it's going to make much more than about $75 difference in a user (spa treated is still not mint). Annoying to be sure, but as others have mentioned--since you used it and didn't keep it mint, I'm guessing it wasn't originally intended as an investment piece.

As to S30V vs BG-42, I also side with those who prefer the old versus the new, primarily because the old blades were run harder than the new and thus held an edge better for most cutting that I typically do with a folding knife (much as many here like to pretend differently, the actual difference in performance when at the same hardness is almost indistinguishable between these two steels, though S30V is a tad easier to machine). The downside of them being harder, of course, was that they were more brittle. I'm still surprised at the cracking here, but I'd say that may have had something to do with Chris Reeve dropping the HRC on his blades a couple points on the newer ones.

Overall, it's a bit of an unfortunate situation, but I think we can be confident that it's not one that CRK brought about intentionally, and the solution they offered is about as good as you're going to get. If you want to haggle, I'd push for a S35VN blade (which may or may not actually be better but it still has that new-car smell on it as far as potential buyers are concerned) and run with it.
 
Hello,

This is like having a vitage car with matching numbers. You send it out to a reputable restorer and they crack the engine block. You just lost a lot of its resale value. I know this isn't a 250,000$ car but it still sucks real bad.

Sorry man,

Chris
 
So, do the blades crack now and then during the initial thumbstud insertion during regular production?
 
I can understand a spa treatment and blade sharpening but why would you bother getting a custom swedge put on if you had plans to sell it??

My radar is beeping.........
 
If you kept the BG-42 knife mint as a COLLECTOR PIECE ,in box, unused, to a Reeve collector ,it IMHO would be worth more, as the steel changed to s30v..
I think a replacement blade, swedged for free, sound's fair....my favorite steel is BG-42..everyone has their own but BG has always been very good for me.

thank's
crazy roger
 
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