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Somebody should put together one of those repetitive-stress-testing machines for Noss, like they use on Mattresses and other furniture.
I've already done it myself.
http://knifetest.com/forum/showthread.php?t=897
Maybe it's me, but I use my knives for cutting, slashing tasks ONLY. For heavier tasks I use axes. Yes, I do baton pieces of wood occasionally, but never concrete or stone. Of course, I want a knife that is tough enough to depend on regarding the tasks which a knife was made for. If the CR fixed blade is an excellent cutter and can withstand batonning through hard wood, it would be a good knife for me.
By the way, I do not own a CR fixed blade, my fixed knives are Fällknivens, Fehrmans and Busses.
By the way, I do not own a CR fixed blade, my fixed knives are Fällknivens, Fehrmans and Busses.
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Those knives broke because they were serrated and not very thick.
The serrations created a stress point, and the knife was not prybaresque enough to handle it.
Don't beat your knife with a hammer, and it won't shatter.
If you simply must beat your knives with hammers, it may be a good idea to buy a Busse family blade, as they seem to handle it better than most.
How useful is that info?
The serrations created a stress point, and the knife was not prybaresque enough to handle it.
Don't beat your knife with a hammer, and it won't shatter.
If you simply must beat your knives with hammers, it may be a good idea to buy a Busse family blade, as they seem to handle it better than most.
How useful is that info?
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Somebody should put together one of those repetitive-stress-testing machines for Noss, like they use on Mattresses and other furniture.
Knifetests.com is entertaining.
But we have all kinds of "real world testers" right here who are happy to give you their unbiased experience and testimony about knives they've used on a daily basis.
If I were in the market to say, buy a new laptop, I'd want to browse forums where owners of the laptop talk about their experience owning and using the laptop.
I don't know that I'd base my final laptop purchase decision on a website where somebody takes a ball-peen hammer to laptops, and blogs about which one is the best. YMMV.
For laptops they call it a drop test, it involves no hammer, and determines toughness
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First off whats a troll? Also the search is down for non paying members, so old threds take awile to find. And it dosent seem that many have any sugestions as to why it may have broken. Most cant seem to put just forget about the tester or the manufacturer and talk about the actual blade.
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Knives are for slicing, cutting, maybe even chopping through wood in extreme cases (unless it is a machete). For all other uses, there are hammers, mallets, axes, pry bars...
Why someone would use a 400$ knife to cut concrete beats me. I guess it makes for fun videos on You Tube...
Why someone would use a 400$ knife to cut concrete beats me. I guess it makes for fun videos on You Tube...
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I like to go backpack camping. I don't want to carry a mallet, axe, machete, etc for 8 miles a day. So for you guys that say a knife is only for cutting/slashing that is I'm sure fine for you. I buy a knife that can baton wood and chop down standing dead wood and do it for years to come. Also if the unexpected happens I need it to handle more strenuous chores without fail.
Noss' tests help me choose the toughest knives I can afford. I love Noss' tests!
Noss' tests help me choose the toughest knives I can afford. I love Noss' tests!
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Relax gents.... I'm a fomer gold member that let his sub expire over a year ago , which is niether here nor there.....
Free exchange of opinions and ideas is what forums are all about , thanks.
My bad then.
You know that even though your paid membership has expired you can still use the account. If you cant remember some of the details of it ask a mod for help. A similar thing happened to me and Esav helped me out finding my user name, which turned out to be a bit embarrassing since I had simply used my actual name.
When you buy a compromise tool to do the task of two or more seperate tools it will not do any of the required tasks as well as the specialized tools it replaces.
It's all good folks.
I know his tests are not "scientific" , in a controlled enviroment , etc... but I do think it is interesting to see what the knives he tests , can take as far as punishment and extreme use is concerned.
For example , if I really did have to have my life depend on the one and only fixed blade I have on me , I would feel more comfortable knowing what that particular knife can withstand.
Avoiding any and all brand bashing here. It is nice to know that if you are on a budget one can purchase a knife that will work for them , especially in these semi-difficult times that may get worse at any moment.
I know his tests are not "scientific" , in a controlled enviroment , etc... but I do think it is interesting to see what the knives he tests , can take as far as punishment and extreme use is concerned.
For example , if I really did have to have my life depend on the one and only fixed blade I have on me , I would feel more comfortable knowing what that particular knife can withstand.
Avoiding any and all brand bashing here. It is nice to know that if you are on a budget one can purchase a knife that will work for them , especially in these semi-difficult times that may get worse at any moment.
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Exactly! Just like a MLB batter hitting a home run that goes 408 feet then the next time he hits one it goes 500 feet. Both times we was trying hard to hit it out of the park but one connected better than the other
It's all good folks.
I know his tests are not "scientific" , in a controlled enviroment , etc... but I do think it is interesting to see what the knives he tests , can take as far as punishment and extreme use is concerned.
For example , if I really did have to have my life depend on the one and only fixed blade I have on me , I would feel more comfortable knowing what that particular knife can withstand.
Avoiding any and all brand bashing here. It is nice to know that if you are on a budget one can purchase a knife that will work for them , especially in these semi-difficult times that may get worse at any moment.
There are enough users of knives that can tell you what, in real world use, a sub $100 blade will do versus a $400 blade. You will not find useful, real world, actual use data from banging on the blade with a hammer.
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Plus, remember that you judge a knife's blade first and foremost for its cutting and edge holding capabilities, which requires hardness.
Those tests were mostly focused on toughness, which is the ability of a tool to withstand impact and torsion. To do that, the steel needs to be "softer", more flexible. As a consequence, it will not cut as well as a harder, more "brittle" steel, nor will the edge last as long.
Hence the comments above about the need for distinct tools.
Those tests were mostly focused on toughness, which is the ability of a tool to withstand impact and torsion. To do that, the steel needs to be "softer", more flexible. As a consequence, it will not cut as well as a harder, more "brittle" steel, nor will the edge last as long.
Hence the comments above about the need for distinct tools.
Not the case at all. Other knives with serrations have been tested. The Gerber LMF II, Ka-Bar D2 extreme,SOG seal 2000, Schrade Extreme Survival SCHF1.All passed being hammered into wood. Also some knives have been tested with saws on the spine. Red scorpion six WSK, Glock field knife, M9 bayonet Romanian bayonet, Ontario Air Force Pilot Survival knife. All passed being hammered into wood. The only one with a saw to fail this was the SOG jungle primitive.
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While that's very true, when space and weight are at a significant premium you learn to compromise on a lot of things. Do you carry a folding knife, multitool, fixed blade, axe, hatchet, saw, trowel and machete when you go out?
I don't.
I carry a fixed blade and a multitool.
I usually bring too much gear. I get some grief for it. Who do you think they come running to when they need something?
A fixed blade, hatchet, folder and multitool will do nicely thanks.
Ideas and opinions are more respected when they come across as such
That said , I see what you are saying HardH20 ( and everyone else ).
Regardless of what folks may say about Noss and his multitudes of tests , it is in my opinion they are , entertaining , interesting and most of all something the rest of us would not normally do , especially on the higher dollar knives - and who would really ?
Who on here would take a 3-400$ blade and put it thru extreme use to see if the claims of the maker stand up to reality ?
Glancing blows and angles aside... if you watch the different tests , all blades get the same rough treatment , there is no bias.
I think folks are getting hurt feelings because a certain beloved makers blade failed and not the CTD knife. ( and if that is the case then that is okay too , to each thier own )
That said , I see what you are saying HardH20 ( and everyone else ).
Regardless of what folks may say about Noss and his multitudes of tests , it is in my opinion they are , entertaining , interesting and most of all something the rest of us would not normally do , especially on the higher dollar knives - and who would really ?
Who on here would take a 3-400$ blade and put it thru extreme use to see if the claims of the maker stand up to reality ?
Glancing blows and angles aside... if you watch the different tests , all blades get the same rough treatment , there is no bias.
I think folks are getting hurt feelings because a certain beloved makers blade failed and not the CTD knife. ( and if that is the case then that is okay too , to each thier own )